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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 22 2016 08:09 GMT
#361
On December 22 2016 16:58 Elroi wrote:
Hehe you remind me of that guy who always used to disproved people in the power rank thread with walls of text about the history of bw. I cant remember his name now...

Letmelose?
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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 22 2016 10:06 GMT
#362
Jaedong is a genius!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2300 Posts
December 22 2016 10:35 GMT
#363
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-22 14:45:19
December 22 2016 14:44 GMT
#364
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.


I like TvT too. It just takes a long time, a lot of the time.


User was warned for being hilarious
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
December 22 2016 15:18 GMT
#365
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
December 22 2016 15:38 GMT
#366
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?


User was warned for being hilarious
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8623 Posts
December 22 2016 20:09 GMT
#367
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?




TvZ best mirror.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
December 22 2016 20:13 GMT
#368
On December 23 2016 05:09 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?




TvZ best mirror.


Is RvR a mirror?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8623 Posts
December 22 2016 20:16 GMT
#369
On December 23 2016 05:13 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 05:09 Miragee wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?




TvZ best mirror.


Is RvR a mirror?


Good point. I don't really like it though. Too unpredictable.
[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-23 02:57:39
December 23 2016 02:28 GMT
#370
On December 23 2016 05:09 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?




TvZ best mirror.


Inigo Montoya: "I do not think that word means what you think it means."


User was warned for being hilarious
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10266 Posts
December 23 2016 05:07 GMT
#371
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?



ZvZ = poker/Las Vegas
TvT = Nascar/golf/chess
PvP = Idk a good analogy for this one
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
December 23 2016 06:05 GMT
#372
On December 23 2016 14:07 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?




PvP = Idk a good analogy for this one


Goon-reaver festival.

User was warned for being hilarious
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
December 23 2016 06:54 GMT
#373
I think ZvZ is a lot like trying to hold in a fart after a night of heavy drinking and eating too much white castle. One wrong move and you're knee deep in shit.

I agree with TvT being like chess.

I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
December 23 2016 07:25 GMT
#374
On December 23 2016 14:07 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?



ZvZ = poker/Las Vegas
TvT = Nascar/golf/chess
PvP = Idk a good analogy for this one


PvP is just two people hurling imbalanced units (high templar and reaver) at each other's defenseless probes, so I'd say it's kinda like bowling.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10266 Posts
December 23 2016 07:45 GMT
#375
On December 23 2016 16:25 Kau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 14:07 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?



ZvZ = poker/Las Vegas
TvT = Nascar/golf/chess
PvP = Idk a good analogy for this one


PvP is just two people hurling imbalanced units (high templar and reaver) at each other's defenseless probes, so I'd say it's kinda like bowling.

HAHAAHAAHAHAHA that one gave me a good laugh.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8623 Posts
December 23 2016 09:10 GMT
#376
On December 23 2016 16:45 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 16:25 Kau wrote:
On December 23 2016 14:07 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?



ZvZ = poker/Las Vegas
TvT = Nascar/golf/chess
PvP = Idk a good analogy for this one


PvP is just two people hurling imbalanced units (high templar and reaver) at each other's defenseless probes, so I'd say it's kinda like bowling.

HAHAAHAAHAHAHA that one gave me a good laugh.


Yep, that was a good one. xD
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
December 23 2016 09:39 GMT
#377
Zerg versus zerg: Knife fight. Up close and personal, one slip up will end in a lethal blow.

Protoss versus protoss: Jousting. In this slug fest between two brawlers, they need to build up a some momentum to end.

Terran versus terran: Sniper duels. Two pussies trying to get a positional advantage and try to camp the living hell out of each other.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
December 23 2016 09:54 GMT
#378
On December 23 2016 16:25 Kau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 14:07 FlaShFTW wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:38 [[Starlight]] wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:18 Harem wrote:
On December 22 2016 19:35 hitthat wrote:
On December 21 2016 18:47 [[Starlight]] wrote:
Bo3s in dual-format group stage is crazy... up to 15 games per group, right? And then imagine half of them are long-ass TvTs on top of that. Unworkable.



TvT is awsome, actually the best mirror in BW. The problem is many of those matches were played by mediocre players who wouldnt take an initiative even to save their lives. If this occur, reluclance to beeing aggresive can turn a TvT into a slugfest.

second best mirror thank you very much


ZvZ is #1?



ZvZ = poker/Las Vegas
TvT = Nascar/golf/chess
PvP = Idk a good analogy for this one


PvP is just two people hurling imbalanced units (high templar and reaver) at each other's defenseless probes, so I'd say it's kinda like bowling.

Wow, i read Flashftw's post before falling asleep and thought bowling would be the perfect answer. So this is a well timed post and Im glad i wasnt alone in thinking that.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10266 Posts
December 23 2016 10:04 GMT
#379
On December 23 2016 18:39 Letmelose wrote:
Zerg versus zerg: Knife fight. Up close and personal, one slip up will end in a lethal blow.

Protoss versus protoss: Jousting. In this slug fest between two brawlers, they need to build up a some momentum to end.

Terran versus terran: Sniper duels. Two pussies trying to get a positional advantage and try to camp the living hell out of each other.

This is pretty damn good. I think i like this one the best besides the damn bowling comment.

We need a damn thread for this haha
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_Animus_
Profile Joined February 2011
Bulgaria1064 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-23 16:59:57
December 23 2016 16:34 GMT
#380
LOL commentators with top profanity quotes - "goliaths are good for clearing mines" "they are good against vultures and tanks" little did they know player build them for anti air purpose against wraiths...

Now about the games, after watching the sloppy jaedong vs best i get the feeling jaedong is not yet ready for the competition in BW, his army control was just terrible. After it, i just see Jaedong becomes the most lucky player ive seen, getting 2 free wins in a row.

Mind vs Best - All Best need is goons to win vs mind :D
To be more serious mind throw this game by underestimating opponent as he did numerous times to weaker opponents. Glad for best and Jaedong to advance, but they are definitely the weakest players in this group.
Luv ya BroodWar!
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