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Poll: Who do you want to win? Flash (44) Last (18) 62 total votes Your vote: Who do you want to win? | ||
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Feels like his return to BW was still quite recent | ||
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On August 21 2016 16:10 BLinD-RawR wrote: it'd be really super if people could hype up last too. Last is a machine created to destroy God by God. But can God create a machine so powerful that even he could not destroy it? Checkmate Flash worshippers | ||
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I think, Last will win Flash so Last is the best of matchup TvsT. | ||
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Flash vs Last. Played yesterday: Minute: 01:30:25 | ||
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Minute: 02:51:30 SPOILER ALERT + Show Spoiler + Flash (1) - Last (1) so far! | ||
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Envy you guys. | ||
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LEE YOUNG HO LEE YOUNG HO | ||
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On August 22 2016 18:52 2Pacalypse- wrote: Call me crazy, but I think this might be a good match. no crazy,just very safe xD | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:08 Arvendilin wrote: Ugh my Internet connection can't handle both streams at the same time, this sucks I thought Germany has good internet =( | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:09 classicyellow83 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 19:08 Arvendilin wrote: Ugh my Internet connection can't handle both streams at the same time, this sucks I thought Germany has good internet =( That is a lie! We have like some of the shittiest internet in Europe, and my student home sucks more than even normal germany in that regard ![]() | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:08 Arvendilin wrote: Ugh my Internet connection can't handle both streams at the same time, this sucks Which streams? Is there another view available aside from the normal observer view? | ||
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"TvT in BW is like chess, only all the pieces are invisible and suddenly explode if you try to move them." | ||
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I love how the place is looking packed as well. I hope BW can continue to grow in Korea even more after this. | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: flash drinking blood ? ;;; gallons of it | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:14 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: flash drinking blood ? ;;; The blood of all the nerds he's slain | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:11 Piste wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 19:08 Arvendilin wrote: Ugh my Internet connection can't handle both streams at the same time, this sucks Which streams? Is there another view available aside from the normal observer view? ProLeague SKT vs KT, and they might go to ace again, so it overlaps, and ofcourse this | ||
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I heard flash didn't use his ruler? What the fuck? Since when hasn't he? I last followed in 2011, got back into it this year. But seriously? | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:16 Ej_ wrote: Ok, how do they rate someone's "today condition"? I'm pretty sure that statistic is by the player hismelf ![]() | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:17 coolprogrammingstuff wrote: Back. Was away. I heard flash didn't use his ruler? What the fuck? Since when hasn't he? I last followed in 2011, got back into it this year. But seriously? He has been using it on and off. He uses drugs now, so no need for ruler. | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:21 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: flash so behind already.... the most interesting games are when flash is behind ^^ | ||
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Edit: ok last took bottom map position better | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:35 ortseam wrote: Flash is going to win with LJD score LWWW | ||
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Flash Bottom Left Purple Terran | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:45 maybenexttime wrote: You should be able to capture enemy bunkers. ![]() Fill it with workers so marines cant get in ![]() | ||
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what the hell am I watching. | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:55 Piste wrote: Flash should usevults to harrass 12.. He should make pretty much any other decision than the one he's making at each opportunity | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:55 NoS-Craig wrote: Holy hell Last just doing so good at the moment. Not only at the moment. I say he's been the best the last 6 months. | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:59 classicyellow83 wrote: Has Flash ever come back from 0-2? He never needed to edit: except when vs Fantasy^^ | ||
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On August 22 2016 19:59 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: i have no idea how flash could comeback,i mean Last is playing pretty much like Flash used to play,and flash with the 1 factory expo idk... Let's not exagerate, the level is still far from what it used to be in the golden years. | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:04 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: 8 rax by flash you mean last | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:06 2Pacalypse- wrote: what the hell is with Last's scouting this series starsense | ||
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We told you he was good mate! | ||
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Though he would build the Barracks in the natural at least this time. | ||
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Poll: Recommend Flash vs Last Game 3? Yes (9) If you have time (8) No (4) 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend Flash vs Last Game 3? Poll: Recommend Flash vs Last Game 4? If you have time (5) No (5) Yes (3) 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Flash vs Last Game 4? | ||
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build orders, tech choices, always had the initiative | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:20 Dante08 wrote: Hmm a TvT series over in an hour (excluding commercials)? Pity no games went to late game would have been more epic 65 minutes from the start of game 1 until the last GG including commercials. | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:21 ]343[ wrote: last just seemed a step ahead the whole time build orders, tech choices, always had the initiative pretty much this. just complete initiative from last. super uncharacteristic from flash. | ||
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Recently in 2016 he has been by far the best performer in the KCM Legend Match series. He also won the the prestigious Kim Carry Starcraft Myeongin League in May. No one has been close to Last in 2016. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
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On August 22 2016 20:26 tanngard wrote: Last is no scrub. He took second place in the 10th Sonic Starleague (Feb.2015) which was a huge tournament and a Starleague. He even went 10-5 in proleague back in early 2012 with wins over players like Fantasy, Mind, TY, sOs, Best, Kal and Snow and he was looking like the next big thing, but not long after they switched to SC2. Recently in 2016 he has been by far the best performer in the KCM Legend Match series. He also won the the prestigious Kim Carry Starcraft Myeongin League in May. No one has been close to Last in 2016. yup he also dominating afreeca sponsor matches and the fish ladder. | ||
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wander
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And, I think it's time to drop FS and CB. | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:32 BisuDagger wrote: Hey TL predictions: "Come at me bro!" well done. | ||
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Flash goes 0-3 and looks like the SC2 scrub he used to be Life is good to me sometimes | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:33 showstealer1829 wrote: Ace match in PL Flash goes 0-3 and looks like the SC2 scrub he used to be Life is good to me sometimes Yea, I watched KT vs SKT T1 live game . Then saw Flash vs Last, Tuned in . Already 0-3 . Saw Flash packing keyboard. Remind me of SC2 Flash . | ||
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FlaShFTW
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On August 22 2016 20:33 showstealer1829 wrote: Ace match in PL Flash goes 0-3 and looks like the SC2 scrub he used to be Life is good to me sometimes this game is brood war so idk where your comparison is going with this. he also played against the best player in brood war right now, it's not like he was losing to scrubs, he lost to the best in what should have probably been the finals. | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:33 showstealer1829 wrote: Flash goes 0-3 and looks like the SC2 scrub he used to be Life is good to me sometimes the day he won that superstacked IEM still hurts? | ||
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Peeano
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(I'm very sorry for not having been able to post yesterday's match!) | ||
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![]() even when ssuk won ssl10 i felt Last had much better potential as a player such a beast of a player | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 22 2016 20:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: lol i almost fall for the joke.What time starting flash vs last boys ? tomorrow 1930KST | ||
Probemicro
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On August 22 2016 20:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: lol i almost fall for the joke.What time starting flash vs last boys ? you are the dense one for not continuing it. | ||
Essbee
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On August 21 2016 16:44 Essbee wrote: Last is the only one who hasn't lost a game yet, therefore Last will go 3-0. ![]() Was there any doubt? | ||
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HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT LAST | ||
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TheNewEra
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On August 22 2016 20:54 tanngard wrote: Flash is best in everything, except for mentality. Probably the weakest mentality of all the 6 bonjwas. Have he ever turned around a series in any memorable fashion? Obviously he was so good he usually didn't have to. As someone not around back in the day I thought there were only 5 bonjwas? Flash, Nada, Boxer, iloveoov and Savior. Who is considered the 6th? | ||
tanngard
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On August 22 2016 21:00 TheNewEra wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 20:54 tanngard wrote: Flash is best in everything, except for mentality. Probably the weakest mentality of all the 6 bonjwas. Have he ever turned around a series in any memorable fashion? Obviously he was so good he usually didn't have to. As someone not around back in the day I thought there were only 5 bonjwas? Flash, Nada, Boxer, iloveoov and Savior. Who is considered the 6th? Jaedong | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6505 Posts
On August 22 2016 21:00 TheNewEra wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 20:54 tanngard wrote: Flash is best in everything, except for mentality. Probably the weakest mentality of all the 6 bonjwas. Have he ever turned around a series in any memorable fashion? Obviously he was so good he usually didn't have to. As someone not around back in the day I thought there were only 5 bonjwas? Flash, Nada, Boxer, iloveoov and Savior. Who is considered the 6th? youngho | ||
NoS-Craig
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On August 22 2016 21:00 TheNewEra wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 20:54 tanngard wrote: Flash is best in everything, except for mentality. Probably the weakest mentality of all the 6 bonjwas. Have he ever turned around a series in any memorable fashion? Obviously he was so good he usually didn't have to. As someone not around back in the day I thought there were only 5 bonjwas? Flash, Nada, Boxer, iloveoov and Savior. Who is considered the 6th? Combat EX | ||
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GTR
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obligatory link to bonjwa discussion http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/news-archive/154423-osl-the-finals-making-history#three | ||
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On August 22 2016 21:11 GTR wrote: sigh obligatory link to bonjwa discussion http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/news-archive/154423-osl-the-finals-making-history#three invalid because the bonjwa discussion/s is usually massively derailed/trolled by: 1) fans with a blind hatred of Savior, trying to downplay the discussion otherwise savior would have been included by definition. did savior cheated enroute to any of his title? no he didn't. he got stripped of his titles with his future offences but that does not mean he did not deserve any of them at the time of his wins. His playing ability and performances at that time CLEARLY shows he is a league above any players until his fall to Bisu. liking his playing ability =/= condoning his matchfixing, in case some buffoon comes in 2) fans of Protoss players. 'nobody should even listen to any of the above 2. | ||
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On August 22 2016 21:19 tanngard wrote: The 6 greatest players of all time are Boxer, Nada, iloveoov, Savior, Jaedong, Flash. Maybe bonjwa mean something else. I dont care I would add Stork and Bisu as well. Not as many accomplishments but similarly insane players. | ||
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Also, I think Flash was overly aggressive in 2, 3 game and hugely due to this fact he lost. At the beginning of a second game, he was so close, if only he didn't lose that fist tank. | ||
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On August 22 2016 21:25 Miragee wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 21:19 tanngard wrote: The 6 greatest players of all time are Boxer, Nada, iloveoov, Savior, Jaedong, Flash. Maybe bonjwa mean something else. I dont care I would add Stork and Bisu as well. Not as many accomplishments but similarly insane players. Sure they are up there indeed. But i feel Stork is more like Yellow and Fantasy in terms of greatness, since he could not consistently hold it together on that final stage | ||
Glioburd
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Eh at least there's still some suspense for the rest of the ASL! | ||
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On August 22 2016 20:54 tanngard wrote: Flash is best in everything, except for mentality. Probably the weakest mentality of all the 6 bonjwas. Have he ever turned around a series in any memorable fashion? Obviously he was so good he usually didn't have to. Interesting point - I went back out of interest, and I could only find him coming back from being 2-1 down in a bo5 once, against Stork in 2008. He has never been down 0-2 and still won in Brood War. The only time he did so was against Snute in IEM Toronto. | ||
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On August 22 2016 22:02 Neemi wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 20:54 tanngard wrote: Flash is best in everything, except for mentality. Probably the weakest mentality of all the 6 bonjwas. Have he ever turned around a series in any memorable fashion? Obviously he was so good he usually didn't have to. Interesting point - I went back out of interest, and I could only find him coming back from being 2-1 down in a bo5 once, against Stork in 2008. He has never been down 0-2 and still won in Brood War. The only time he did so was against Snute in IEM Toronto. Thank you for checking that. I could never recall him ever doing that you see. He always took the lead in a series so he had a great mentality and focus on the game going into a BOX. But speaking of comebacks, Flash could do it INSIDE a game. I guess that speaks for a certain good mentality, but between games, if things dont go his way, he can tilt harder than the other champions it seems. | ||
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On August 22 2016 21:25 Miragee wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 21:19 tanngard wrote: The 6 greatest players of all time are Boxer, Nada, iloveoov, Savior, Jaedong, Flash. Maybe bonjwa mean something else. I dont care I would add Stork and Bisu as well. Not as many accomplishments but similarly insane players. Ugh fans of protoss players... | ||
Miragee
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On August 22 2016 22:23 TanGeng wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 21:25 Miragee wrote: On August 22 2016 21:19 tanngard wrote: The 6 greatest players of all time are Boxer, Nada, iloveoov, Savior, Jaedong, Flash. Maybe bonjwa mean something else. I dont care I would add Stork and Bisu as well. Not as many accomplishments but similarly insane players. Ugh fans of protoss players... orcsorcsorcsorcsorcsorcsorcs | ||
tanngard
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On August 22 2016 22:10 tumejoramigo wrote: At least we got fresh blood in BW? Last is young right? Not particular young anymore. He is born in 1992 so he is the same age as Flash. Last was a pro back in the day and had quite a talent actually. He is not fresh blood so to speak, but he seems to be a late bloomer of sorts. | ||
Kevin_Sorbo
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thats what happen when you become a ladder hero huehue | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On August 22 2016 22:27 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: omg Flash got liretally shat on thats what happen when you become a ladder hero huehue except last is higher on the ladder and most metrics follow bet matches, which is pretty much on the same level as the real thing. | ||
_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On August 22 2016 21:37 _Animus_ wrote: havent watched this yet but i get the feeling that flash will be stomped. lol First game: all Last need is an scv and dropship and he owns flash. Its insane how much levels last is above Flash right now. I expected 3-1 for last but it might just be 3-0. If you havent noticed from all the ex pros Flash is the one who jumped right into the competition, without the usual time for preparation that others spent before going into tournaments, i hope he will get better than this. | ||
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BisuDagger
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On August 22 2016 22:39 _Animus_ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 21:37 _Animus_ wrote: havent watched this yet but i get the feeling that flash will be stomped. lol First game: all Last need is an scv and dropship and he owns flash. Its insane how much levels last is above Flash right now. I expected 3-1 for last but it might just be 3-0. If you havent noticed from all the ex pros Flash is the one who jumped right into the competition, without the usual time for preparation that others spent before going into tournaments, i hope he will get better than this. Bisu jumped right in to tbh, but the level of talent was definitely lower at the time of his return. | ||
Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On August 22 2016 22:21 tanngard wrote: I dont think he really had a bad mentality at all, I mean, he won so many championships how could he...flashes only real fault imo is that he often falls into predictable patterns. Like, christ, the dude was going 14cc every single game regardless of matchup for weeks at one point back in 2008, and he repeated that cycle a few times in his career. He would just get stuck on these obvious loops. Maybe thats a mentality weakness and maybe thats why he never turns around series hes losing, though? He's a little robotic.Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 22:02 Neemi wrote: On August 22 2016 20:54 tanngard wrote: Flash is best in everything, except for mentality. Probably the weakest mentality of all the 6 bonjwas. Have he ever turned around a series in any memorable fashion? Obviously he was so good he usually didn't have to. Interesting point - I went back out of interest, and I could only find him coming back from being 2-1 down in a bo5 once, against Stork in 2008. He has never been down 0-2 and still won in Brood War. The only time he did so was against Snute in IEM Toronto. Thank you for checking that. I could never recall him ever doing that you see. He always took the lead in a series so he had a great mentality and focus on the game going into a BOX. But speaking of comebacks, Flash could do it INSIDE a game. I guess that speaks for a certain good mentality, but between games, if things dont go his way, he can tilt harder than the other champions it seems. On August 22 2016 22:44 BisuDagger wrote: Bisu also seemed to hate sc2 alot more than flash did. He probably was just less out of practice in general.Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 22:39 _Animus_ wrote: On August 22 2016 21:37 _Animus_ wrote: havent watched this yet but i get the feeling that flash will be stomped. lol First game: all Last need is an scv and dropship and he owns flash. Its insane how much levels last is above Flash right now. I expected 3-1 for last but it might just be 3-0. If you havent noticed from all the ex pros Flash is the one who jumped right into the competition, without the usual time for preparation that others spent before going into tournaments, i hope he will get better than this. Bisu jumped right in to tbh, but the level of talent was definitely lower at the time of his return. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19208 Posts
On August 22 2016 22:56 Dazed_Spy wrote: Show nested quote + I dont think he really had a bad mentality at all, I mean, he won so many championships how could he...flashes only real fault imo is that he often falls into predictable patterns. Like, christ, the dude was going 14cc every single game regardless of matchup for weeks at one point back in 2008, and he repeated that cycle a few times in his career. He would just get stuck on these obvious loops. Maybe thats a mentality weakness and maybe thats why he never turns around series hes losing, though? He's a little robotic.On August 22 2016 22:21 tanngard wrote: On August 22 2016 22:02 Neemi wrote: On August 22 2016 20:54 tanngard wrote: Flash is best in everything, except for mentality. Probably the weakest mentality of all the 6 bonjwas. Have he ever turned around a series in any memorable fashion? Obviously he was so good he usually didn't have to. Interesting point - I went back out of interest, and I could only find him coming back from being 2-1 down in a bo5 once, against Stork in 2008. He has never been down 0-2 and still won in Brood War. The only time he did so was against Snute in IEM Toronto. Thank you for checking that. I could never recall him ever doing that you see. He always took the lead in a series so he had a great mentality and focus on the game going into a BOX. But speaking of comebacks, Flash could do it INSIDE a game. I guess that speaks for a certain good mentality, but between games, if things dont go his way, he can tilt harder than the other champions it seems. Show nested quote + Bisu also seemed to hate sc2 alot more than flash did. He probably was just less out of practice in general.On August 22 2016 22:44 BisuDagger wrote: On August 22 2016 22:39 _Animus_ wrote: On August 22 2016 21:37 _Animus_ wrote: havent watched this yet but i get the feeling that flash will be stomped. lol First game: all Last need is an scv and dropship and he owns flash. Its insane how much levels last is above Flash right now. I expected 3-1 for last but it might just be 3-0. If you havent noticed from all the ex pros Flash is the one who jumped right into the competition, without the usual time for preparation that others spent before going into tournaments, i hope he will get better than this. Bisu jumped right in to tbh, but the level of talent was definitely lower at the time of his return. Jaedong spoke about becoming more nervous as he has gotten older as a gamer. It could be similar for Flash. | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11285 Posts
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tumejoramigo
33 Posts
On August 22 2016 23:53 c3rberUs wrote: The term bonjwa should only be used for the original man + Show Spoiler + ![]() ![]() Dayum Essbee pimping around with AlphaGo ![]() This is the best linear graph ever: ![]() Propst to Savior, the #1 skilled player of all time (For a short period of time). Flash being the #1 of winning and my favourite player. | ||
eviltomahawk
United States11133 Posts
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dr0pship
Canada520 Posts
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On August 23 2016 02:10 endy wrote: Unexpected results for sure, but to me, if Flash had to be eliminated from this tournament it had to be by a Terran. Deja vu. | ||
outscar
2832 Posts
In other hand I saw Last today in my dream, we had a talk, really weird, I never see any progamers in my dreams, I don't ever met any of them lol. Maybe that was a sign from above. Well done AlphaGo! If Last beats on finals undefeated our new God gonna be a computer AI! | ||
letian
Germany4221 Posts
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TaShadan
Germany1965 Posts
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KobraKay
Portugal4219 Posts
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ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
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joust85
Canada53 Posts
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Pyrrhuloxia
United States6700 Posts
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
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prech
United States2948 Posts
![]() ![]() Just hoping Flash doesn't pull a ![]() On August 23 2016 06:31 Essbee wrote: Apparently, nobody cares about my 3-0 prediction and the picture I took with Last right after his win haha :p Haha, just catching up with the thread -- nice work, even matching shorts and shoes! | ||
_Animus_
Bulgaria1064 Posts
On August 23 2016 06:43 prech wrote: Just hoping Flash doesn't pull a ![]() well, they are not teenagers anymore, BW is alot of stress which can make your life worse. I wouldnt blame anyone for quiting after the standart progamer age. Day9 was asked why you dont play anymore, he answered that life is full of stress anyways and bw is just too much. | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
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Piste
6167 Posts
On August 22 2016 22:10 tumejoramigo wrote: At least we got fresh blood in BW? Last is young right? Kind of yuong.. he is 23, played for years. ![]() | ||
Piste
6167 Posts
On August 22 2016 22:39 _Animus_ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 22 2016 21:37 _Animus_ wrote: havent watched this yet but i get the feeling that flash will be stomped. lol First game: all Last need is an scv and dropship and he owns flash. Its insane how much levels last is above Flash right now. I expected 3-1 for last but it might just be 3-0. If you havent noticed from all the ex pros Flash is the one who jumped right into the competition, without the usual time for preparation that others spent before going into tournaments, i hope he will get better than this. I thought he practised before starting to stream, and he has streamed for a while now. But yeah it seemed pretty easy for him to get back up there. | ||
AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On August 23 2016 07:12 Piste wrote: Yea I thought he practised before starting to stream, and he has streamed for a while now. But yeah it seemed pretty easy for him to get back up there. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The greats seem to recover quickly. Speaking of which, hopefully ![]() | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
On August 23 2016 06:49 _Animus_ wrote: Show nested quote + On August 23 2016 06:43 prech wrote: Just hoping Flash doesn't pull a ![]() well, they are not teenagers anymore, BW is alot of stress which can make your life worse. I wouldnt blame anyone for quiting after the standart progamer age. Day9 was asked why you dont play anymore, he answered that life is full of stress anyways and bw is just too much. Not familiar with Day9, but presumably, he doesn't consider streaming BW his primary occupation like Bisu and Flash do. Neither have children or families to support. I have no idea what other significant outside stresses Bisu and Flash have that didn't exist a few years ago when they were practicing hard as BW/SC2 progamers. Would just like to see the best putting their best selves forward, rather than shiver away from challenges | ||
DracoVolantus
Poland231 Posts
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playa
United States1284 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On August 22 2016 20:53 Essbee wrote: On August 21 2016 16:44 Essbee wrote: Last is the only one who hasn't lost a game yet, therefore Last will go 3-0. ![]() Was there any doubt? oh hey i saw your cheerful on vod wp, btw | ||
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BisuDagger
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The_Red_Viper
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On August 24 2016 02:27 BisuDagger wrote: LOL! Who are the other 43 geniuses? ;D | ||
Miragee
8471 Posts
On August 24 2016 08:33 Essbee wrote: Who are the other 43 geniuses? ;D A handful of them posted here in the thread. :D | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19208 Posts
On August 24 2016 15:49 Miragee wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2016 08:33 Essbee wrote: On August 24 2016 02:27 BisuDagger wrote: LOL! Who are the other 43 geniuses? ;D A handful of them posted here in the thread. :D I don't think a bigger hype train has been derailed. | ||
duke91
Germany1458 Posts
Seems to me that he is happy that there is a competitor which he can overcome. He sees there is a challenge and this makes him happy. Totally the opposite of Bisu, who sees a challenge and dodges | ||
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United States4149 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19208 Posts
On August 25 2016 14:45 lestye wrote: It looks like ASL finals was moved from September 4th to September 10th? https://twitter.com/GTR1H/status/768642526752313345 I'm okay with that. I think it's great for exposure. | ||
RKC
2848 Posts
On August 25 2016 22:57 BisuDagger wrote: Show nested quote + On August 25 2016 14:45 lestye wrote: It looks like ASL finals was moved from September 4th to September 10th? https://twitter.com/GTR1H/status/768642526752313345 I'm okay with that. I think it's great for exposure. Please cast GSL finals too ![]() | ||
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