[ASL] Ro16 Day 1 - Page 22

On July 18 2016 03:51 classicyellow83 wrote:
FUCK!!! Effort lost 3 more games against Shuttle on afreeca just now. He's about to lose it. FUCK!!!

On July 18 2016 03:51 classicyellow83 wrote:
FUCK!!! Effort lost 3 more games against Shuttle on afreeca just now. He's about to lose it. FUCK!!!

On July 17 2016 21:06 Cele wrote:


if you are aware of mech switches TvZ and gate first builds pvz, not that much. TvT has shifted a lot away from the BC centered lategame Tastosis mentioned to the use of wraith and sometimes valks to counter wraith. Mass Drop play isn't seen a lot anymore in TvT

On July 18 2016 01:13 Alur wrote:

They really captured my knees and chin well.

On July 18 2016 12:16 Essbee wrote:


Yeah, they've got the best cameramen here in Korea, proof right here.

On July 18 2016 13:49 c3rberUs wrote:

The cameraman didn't capture your knees and chin at all so he compensated with Alur's knees and chin.

On July 18 2016 14:53 BLinD-RawR wrote:


buy me a ticket

On July 18 2016 00:58 RKC wrote:


Great insight!

Yeah, I always thought he was 'weak only in micro-heavy, low-economy games' - which was how Bisu took him out at the last BW Proleague ace match (what a scrappy but epic match that was!). But 'weak' being relative to his strengths, of course - I don't mean he's bad in micro at all.

I was reading somewhere earlier that Best could take on Flash straight-up macro. Would he be one of the best macro Protoss in modern times then?

Funny, I'd always picture Jaedong as an aggro player strong in early and mid game. Didn't quite know his macro could stand up to Flash's too!

On July 18 2016 18:08 Whole wrote:
Are there vods of these games?

On July 18 2016 18:22 DucK- wrote:
Do they earn much from streaming?

On June 27 2016 10:29 Probemicro wrote:


based off the conservative 1 balloon=0.07USD rate, Bisu just earned almost 40000USD this month
for comparison the entire prizepool of Afreeca Starleague is only ~21600USD

so flamers and haters can talk about bisu having a weak mentality, scared of army, scared of meeting flash in finals, not having a long term view of helping boost the BW scene whatever,
when you are raking in such dough on a regular basis, simply from regular streaming, everything else is fluff.

if he thinks he doesn't want to play in tournaments anymore because he will be forced to stream less (hence cutting his stream revenue), then thats his personal choice. I don't blame bisu for that. people on forums love to talk about morals and obligations etc, but put them in the same shoes, almost everyone would have done the same as Bisu.

On July 18 2016 18:41 Probemicro wrote:


Bisu received $40k USD worth of donations in 1 month(June)
Other popular streamers like Flash and Shuttle also earn similar income consistently. of course if you are not popular, streaming is just something you do for fun as you don't get much donation. but for star players with large fanbases like the above, its a real profitable venture. Many of the BW-mad korean fans in the past are now working adults with sizable disposable income, allowing them donate on a regular basis just to watch their idols play.
so no need to feel sad for them (on the contrary you should be jealous instead lol)

On July 18 2016 20:16 DucK- wrote:


I won't feel jealous even for that money. I get that he is doing what he loves while making money from it. But I feel that the lack of a bustling competitive environment to the game makes playing BW no longer thrilling or motivating. .

On July 18 2016 20:16 DucK- wrote:
The game itself isn't being updated as well with patches to keep things fresh.

On July 18 2016 20:16 DucK- wrote:
I feel they are too young to be doing things at a recreational level. There's no goals to set or achieve, life goes on the same way everyday. Doesn't feel healthy to be living life this way at this age.