• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:50
CEST 09:50
KST 16:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202542Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
+2348106233580 #I want to join brotherhood society Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? [G] Progamer Settings Help, I can't log into staredit.net
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 595 users

[TLS:Championship] Ro32 - Page 4

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
101 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9505 Posts
March 06 2016 19:08 GMT
#61
On March 07 2016 03:52 538 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2016 03:38 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On March 07 2016 03:33 538 wrote:
Which matchups are casted today? Are all games going to be casted from here on, or just a selection until they get few enouh for one cast per week?

Just a selection. Few series will get casted today.

Is it decided yet from what point on will all games be casted? It would be neat if unofficial casters covered the uncasted replays. For me, a tournament stage doesn't feel proper until all the games in it are casted

Yeah, if there's big enough interest, we might do some "unofficial" cast during the week of the games we don't cast tonight, before the Ro16 starts ^^.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 06 2016 19:14 GMT
#62
On March 07 2016 04:08 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2016 03:52 538 wrote:
On March 07 2016 03:38 2Pacalypse- wrote:
On March 07 2016 03:33 538 wrote:
Which matchups are casted today? Are all games going to be casted from here on, or just a selection until they get few enouh for one cast per week?

Just a selection. Few series will get casted today.

Is it decided yet from what point on will all games be casted? It would be neat if unofficial casters covered the uncasted replays. For me, a tournament stage doesn't feel proper until all the games in it are casted

Yeah, if there's big enough interest, we might do some "unofficial" cast during the week of the games we don't cast tonight, before the Ro16 starts ^^.

There is definitely interest - this is the league where the foreign players who put in the hard work gets to shine the most since a long time ago

HYPE!
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
March 06 2016 19:18 GMT
#63
What a day to look into TL.net. Looking forward to some BW!
Brood War forever!
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
March 06 2016 19:35 GMT
#64
Casters, can you fix your sound levels so that LRM)Cats_Paw is not this much louder than Sayle?
BW fighting!
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 06 2016 20:34 GMT
#65
And the first games I watch are ZvP and not ZvZ like it says in the Liquibet, man that confused me ...

I get a lot of reavers though so I am happy
Where is my ACE flair
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 06 2016 20:41 GMT
#66
So voddy is my hero now
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 06 2016 20:41 GMT
#67
vOddy you are my hero, dweb reaver is all you need :D GG
Where is my ACE flair
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
March 06 2016 20:46 GMT
#68
vOddy must be really confident in this build if he staked his advancement on it by using it two times in a row. Great fan service, but I feel he unnecessarily risked the series after looking comfortably superior in game 1.
BW fighting!
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
March 06 2016 20:54 GMT
#69
are replays going to be released from ro32 and onward?
aka DragOn[NaS]
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 06 2016 20:54 GMT
#70
Interesting 8pool
Where is my ACE flair
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9505 Posts
March 06 2016 21:06 GMT
#71
On March 07 2016 05:54 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
are replays going to be released from ro32 and onward?

Yes.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 06 2016 21:07 GMT
#72
Finally a Terran - Please advance, someone needs to show those dirty Z's how its done !
Where is my ACE flair
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
March 06 2016 21:08 GMT
#73
Cats_paw loves his TvP ^^
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
March 06 2016 22:10 GMT
#74
Great series, shame these two players had to meet so early.

Thanks 2Pac
BW fighting!
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
March 06 2016 23:37 GMT
#75
soo...every ro16 matchup is posted except mine. Sup with the djem5/spx match? when will I know who im facing?
aka DragOn[NaS]
Cryoc
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany909 Posts
March 07 2016 00:05 GMT
#76
So 1-2 weeks before Christmas I asked 2Pacalypse- for a schedule regarding the TLSC because I already knew at the time that I would not be able to play at my home desk for several weeks in February, March due to work and I would not be able to play at my best because of this. But the time for that was a little bit flexible so some information would have been nice. I had to make the arrangements fast though.

But of course who would have a schedule 3 weeks before a 3 month tour starts? Alas, no schedule was available and I had to guess the length of the qualifier which naturally went horribly wrong, seeing the announcement after New Years stating a preliminary phase, which is longer than the actual Championship. So my time away from home would start right at the time the elimination bracket begins.

But misfortunes never come singly. An additional look at the "amazing" mappool and I strongly considered not participating at all. Thinking it over, my optimistic self thought, okay they want to sort out the surplus of Terrans in the foreign scene for whatever reason like SSL11. Afterwards they surely won't pick such ridiculous maps, so I started training and participating anyway.

Fast forward to the end of the preliminaries, I got some decent results with an improved TvP despite the maps and tried to play the tiebreaker games away from home, as the result didn't matter much to me, as it would just decide if the next games would be a TvP if I lose or a most likely TvP if I win(which it would have been anyway). And as you could see vs Julia, my skill was not even close to what I am capable of. So for the next Round I would definitely go home to play better games.

And then I see the maps, again a Terran graveyard, infact the same I fell into in TLS3. Thank you very much.
So basically my plan for the series was to win the games on Electric Circuit and Fighting Spirit and if I am very lucky a game with cheese on Aztec.

So for the first game I planned a strong 3base +1 timing attack to kill him outright, which went as expected until he kills a control group of vultures with a cloaked zealot during my macro cycle which I didn't react to as cloaked units don't show on the minimap and basically wins the game right there. Protoss is sooo fucking hard. Well it was probably nice for the viewers that LancerX was bad enough that he needed 20 more minutes to finish the game.

So Aztec being my last hope, I go for 2 factories but it gets of course scouted with a zealot first opening because LancerX is not braindead. So yeah, another macro game on Aztec incoming where Terran can never secure more than 5 bases (and 2 only have 1000 mineral patches) and Protoss gets 7-8 and the only way to kill a Protosss expansion without losing to a counter is to get a good engagement in the middle because every base except for the inner once are super far away and you need the window of protoss rebuilding his army, otherwise he just kills 2 of your bases for his one.
So yeah, doesn't take a genius to guess the outcome, not even talking about the general carrier and arbiter friendliness.
I bet 2pac was sitting in his armchair thinking with a smile after he saw my games:"1 down, 5 to go."

After I wrote all of this, what I actually really wanted to say is:
Fuck you 2pac and your bullshit.

So I'm done.
http://www.twitch.tv/cryoc
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 00:22:52
March 07 2016 00:22 GMT
#77
On March 07 2016 09:05 Cryoc wrote:
So 1-2 weeks before Christmas I asked 2Pacalypse- for a schedule regarding the TLSC because I already knew at the time that I would not be able to play at my home desk for several weeks in February, March due to work and I would not be able to play at my best because of this. But the time for that was a little bit flexible so some information would have been nice. I had to make the arrangements fast though.

But of course who would have a schedule 3 weeks before a 3 month tour starts? Alas, no schedule was available and I had to guess the length of the qualifier which naturally went horribly wrong, seeing the announcement after New Years stating a preliminary phase, which is longer than the actual Championship. So my time away from home would start right at the time the elimination bracket begins.

But misfortunes never come singly. An additional look at the "amazing" mappool and I strongly considered not participating at all. Thinking it over, my optimistic self thought, okay they want to sort out the surplus of Terrans in the foreign scene for whatever reason like SSL11. Afterwards they surely won't pick such ridiculous maps, so I started training and participating anyway.

Fast forward to the end of the preliminaries, I got some decent results with an improved TvP despite the maps and tried to play the tiebreaker games away from home, as the result didn't matter much to me, as it would just decide if the next games would be a TvP if I lose or a most likely TvP if I win(which it would have been anyway). And as you could see vs Julia, my skill was not even close to what I am capable of. So for the next Round I would definitely go home to play better games.

And then I see the maps, again a Terran graveyard, infact the same I fell into in TLS3. Thank you very much.
So basically my plan for the series was to win the games on Electric Circuit and Fighting Spirit and if I am very lucky a game with cheese on Aztec.

So for the first game I planned a strong 3base +1 timing attack to kill him outright, which went as expected until he kills a control group of vultures with a cloaked zealot during my macro cycle which I didn't react to as cloaked units don't show on the minimap and basically wins the game right there. Protoss is sooo fucking hard. Well it was probably nice for the viewers that LancerX was bad enough that he needed 20 more minutes to finish the game.

So Aztec being my last hope, I go for 2 factories but it gets of course scouted with a zealot first opening because LancerX is not braindead. So yeah, another macro game on Aztec incoming where Terran can never secure more than 5 bases (and 2 only have 1000 mineral patches) and Protoss gets 7-8 and the only way to kill a Protosss expansion without losing to a counter is to get a good engagement in the middle because every base except for the inner once are super far away and you need the window of protoss rebuilding his army, otherwise he just kills 2 of your bases for his one.
So yeah, doesn't take a genius to guess the outcome, not even talking about the general carrier and arbiter friendliness.
I bet 2pac was sitting in his armchair thinking with a smile after he saw my games:"1 down, 5 to go."

After I wrote all of this, what I actually really wanted to say is:
Fuck you 2pac and your bullshit.

So I'm done.

Sad to hear about how terrible things went for you despite working hard to prep for the matchup with Lancerx (amongst other things). However, I don't think talking badly about your opponent or one of the main organizers is a great idea. Venting is understandable though but there are better ways to vent.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
kingfish-
Profile Joined January 2016
12 Posts
March 07 2016 00:47 GMT
#78
No one can prepare for lancerx, not even lancerx is prepared for what he does in games.
Bakuryu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 01:27:27
March 07 2016 01:12 GMT
#79
im in the same situation as Cryoc because i already knew around december that i will be away for 1-2 weeks and also often bugged 2pac for schedule/maps..... i just want to add in that this tournament so far has been a nightmare to prepare for anything. each prelim round, sunday (and often most of saturday) was completely wasted because we only got to know our enemy on monday. so you had to prepare when there are the fewest people online to play with because of work and stuff. And now for ro32 we had 7 days total to prepare 2 new maps, while hoping we predicted this round correctly so reallife gives us enough time. i was very lucky that zaraki wasnt able to play otherwise it might have been hard for me because i could only prepare on saturday/sunday (after work) after the maps were announced because the other days i was working, packing my baggage and preparing my trip for japan, flying to japan and setting up everything for bw at the hostel after i arrived on saturday morning so that after i slept, i could play the games.

well now we have the maps and we can predict our enemy, great. but i dont think there is any real time to prepare new builds or even map specific builds besides random all ins because there just isnt enough time. At most you will see our usual fs builds just being adjusted enough to work on those non-fs maps.... or stupid bad played/executed stuff being thrown at each other....

now i have to practice here at hostel with slow pc, no ability to host (so i cant ladder) and still only being able to play monday-friday because on sunday i went to an event and solved my jetlag, while still fiddling around with the pc to get the settings right. if a miracle happens and i beat trutacz, i cant practice again on saturday/sunday because of concerts (the reason i actually went to japan).....i pack everything on monday, fly back home on tuesday and then can finally practice again after work for 3 and a half days until i play again on saturday. gl hf!

for next tournament, please use ladder prelims or qualifier tournaments and please release the maps earlier.... way earlier.....
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-07 08:30:32
March 07 2016 03:54 GMT
#80
On March 07 2016 05:46 538 wrote:
vOddy must be really confident in this build if he staked his advancement on it by using it two times in a row. Great fan service, but I feel he unnecessarily risked the series after looking comfortably superior in game 1.


I don't do "fan service".
I want to show worthy games for the viewers that don't waste their time, but I I play in the way that I believe gives me the best chance of winning. Which is the best way to serve fans of StarCraft anyway - playing at the highest level you are capable of.

DragOn helped me prepare for this PvZ, and he kicked my ass. But I won a few games with corsair reaver, so I decided to use it in the tournament.

if I am very lucky a game with cheese on Aztec.


I don't think that Aztec is a bad map for Terran. It's hard when you start out playing on it as a beginner, but once you learn how to use it to Terran's advantage, it becomes a fine map. It ended up being my strongest map for TvP once I figured out how to play on it (I played on it exclusively because I was sick of losing on it against Protoss). In ICCup tournaments, I would pick Aztec if my opponent was Protoss, and I don't remember ever losing a TvP tournament game on it.

In fact, the post KeSPA statistics for it are:

PvT: 8-11 (42.1%)

TvZ: 10-3 (76.9%)

A small sample size, but still.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech44
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 1932
Pusan 340
Light 217
Leta 216
Killer 154
PianO 114
Noble 65
GoRush 51
Backho 51
HiyA 36
[ Show more ]
NaDa 31
Sharp 15
Bale 12
Hyuk 6
Dota 2
ODPixel121
XcaliburYe62
BananaSlamJamma37
League of Legends
JimRising 593
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1049
shoxiejesuss383
allub101
Super Smash Bros
Westballz36
Other Games
summit1g8732
Tasteless248
Pyrionflax81
SortOf73
NeuroSwarm55
PartinGtheBigBoy23
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1144
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 67
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH400
• davetesta28
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt459
• HappyZerGling191
Other Games
• Scarra989
Upcoming Events
OSC
2h 11m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3h 11m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
7h 11m
PiGosaur Monday
16h 11m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 3h
Stormgate Nexus
1d 6h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 8h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
CSO Cup
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
RotterdaM Event
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.