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bellsprout
Profile Joined June 2006
Australia219 Posts
February 16 2007 11:10 GMT
#881
do u think savior is hiding some zvt strat for nada? cuz he hasnt played a standard build against hwasin or iris and he's been coming back to win rather than controlling the game like he usually does
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
February 16 2007 11:33 GMT
#882
On February 16 2007 20:10 bellsprout wrote:
do u think savior is hiding some zvt strat for nada? cuz he hasnt played a standard build against hwasin or iris and he's been coming back to win rather than controlling the game like he usually does
]
I think he deliberately played totally different vs Hwasin and Iris.

10 bucks that he opens with 3 hatch before pool vs nada first game haha.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
February 16 2007 11:48 GMT
#883
On February 16 2007 04:03 xM(Z wrote:
fuck Hitler , savior is Lucifer reloaded


that was awsome quote
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 16 2007 12:01 GMT
#884
Can I be temp banned till OSL is over? All the savior cocksuckers who think nada has 0% chance hurts my fucking head. He isn't fucking invincible, he is however VERY good, and on a hot streak. But they don't last forever. Nada is a better then savior overall. Savior is better then nada AS WE CAN SEE atm. That is what this OSL is about. To see if the player with experience, and knowledge as a long-time champion. Can beat the Wrecking Ball force of Viva La Revolution. Suck it fuckers.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
February 16 2007 12:10 GMT
#885
On February 16 2007 21:01 Sacajawea wrote:
Can I be temp banned till OSL is over? All the savior cocksuckers who think nada has 0% chance hurts my fucking head. He isn't fucking invincible, he is however VERY good, and on a hot streak. But they don't last forever. Nada is a better then savior overall. Savior is better then nada AS WE CAN SEE atm. That is what this OSL is about. To see if the player with experience, and knowledge as a long-time champion. Can beat the Wrecking Ball force of Viva La Revolution. Suck it fuckers.

you're a dick, you should get perm banned
Prodigy[x]
Profile Joined May 2006
Canada207 Posts
February 16 2007 12:20 GMT
#886
On February 16 2007 21:10 yubee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2007 21:01 Sacajawea wrote:
Can I be temp banned till OSL is over? All the savior cocksuckers who think nada has 0% chance hurts my fucking head. He isn't fucking invincible, he is however VERY good, and on a hot streak. But they don't last forever. Nada is a better then savior overall. Savior is better then nada AS WE CAN SEE atm. That is what this OSL is about. To see if the player with experience, and knowledge as a long-time champion. Can beat the Wrecking Ball force of Viva La Revolution. Suck it fuckers.

you're a dick, you should get perm banned

He's right though, I can't wait till Nada make the Savior fanboys eat their words. Nada is the greatest terran of all time. This is also tvz. Nada SHOULD win and Savior should be considered the underdog.
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 16 2007 12:22 GMT
#887
Actually most of the Savior fans are being bigger dicks, by driving out our words with, STFU, ITS NOT POSSIBLE FOR NADA TO WIN. When obviously he has the best shot of beating Savior out of anyone alive.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 16 2007 12:23 GMT
#888
I don't even like nada that much. I'm more of a Yo-Hwan fan. But dismissing him with ALL HIS FUCKING ACHEIVMENTS HE HAS MADE THROUGH OUT HIS CAREER. Is utter bullshit.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-16 12:48:56
February 16 2007 12:46 GMT
#889
What i dont understand is how some people criticize savior fan boys, when people like Sacajawea and prodigy stating "NAda is the greatest terran of all time" then one acting like a huge Nada fan boy, while the other acts like a "I hate savior so much" dont bite your own tongue, because both of you are acting exactly the same way the people you are complaining about, why dont just enjoy the show and talk later?
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
February 16 2007 12:50 GMT
#890
Boxer was ahead of his time when he made those achievements. (Seriously imbalanced maps Neo Blaze, Hall of Valhalla wtf, both his osl wins being tvzs...) Revolutionized the m+m, the emperor golden age began.

Nada was ahead of his time when he made those achievements. (Hell, if you look at his osl final games, poor chojja man, it was like watching a man-made wooden sword trying to plow a metal wall.) Introduced a less strategic, but more fluid micro/macro style terran.

Iloveoov, in his domination, put macro-economics and strategics to the highest level, everyone believed he was invincible.

Savior, by the looks of it, is the most dominant zerg that has ever surfaced.(Julyzerg, yeah, he was strong, but not "dominant" like savior.) Like a puppetmaster I would call his play.

Every era has it's leader, and I think this is Saviors. (I don't like savior much, but I'm expecting savior to win, 3-2 , 3-1, doesn't matter.)

OFC Nada does have a chance, maybe he'll play aggressive, and pull the same thing he did to win vs him on Blitz, non-stop aggression, just like Iris did today. I think Iris had the best chance out of any of the terrans mentioned, his timing was perfect for nearly all games, he knows how this man plays, but if he had Nada's multi-task and iloveoov's intuition, Iris would of beat him. The other players do not have the privilege of playing with him, probably every other day.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 16 2007 12:56 GMT
#891
why is it obvious that nada is suddenly the most likely to beat savior when his results are poorer than others. fanbois
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-16 13:02:43
February 16 2007 12:57 GMT
#892
I didn't say nada is the greatest of all time, nore am I attacking people for liking a certain player. but its pretty much bullshit, when someone who may like nada says. "I think nada has a pretty decent shot of winning."

Then some faggot goes. "No he will lose". Or " Were you drunk while watching the games, NO WAY NADA CAN WIN!" You really can't say anything about nada being "good enough" to beat savior at all or you get your head bit off. I'll stop posting till the finals are played. Just wished Casy would of advanced, because I think I would of enjoyed his super-aggressive micromanagement style vs savior.

On February 15 2007 16:52 Acejei wrote:
Nobody can destroy Savior at the moment. Come on believe me. Nomatter how much good they are, he'll take both MSL AND OSL. I can even bet my girl friend ioi

oneofthem Niue. February 15 2007 15:52. Posts 2000 PM Profile Buddy Quote
On February 15 2007 05:15 G.s)NarutO wrote:
NaDa will destroy savior.
Savior's too smart to be destroyed, you are joking.

And oneofthem calls people fanboys - laugh
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-16 13:02:05
February 16 2007 13:01 GMT
#893
sorry but savior is playing very well and it is not ridiculous to cheer for him, if only in reaction to tards who post a oneliner "nada will crush savior! lool"
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
February 16 2007 13:03 GMT
#894
I've been hard on Nada lately, but I would put him as the favourite for the final. He will have one of Longinus, RLT or Hitchhiker twice and the other two once, giving him a huge map advantage. RLT and Longinus are horrible, and when the Terran comes specially prepared with a one-base build on Hitchhiker, it's very, very hard for Zerg to win.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
February 16 2007 13:06 GMT
#895
Man I feel you sacajawea, this is like when I was rambling about how Nada isn't as smart as iloveoov, he lacks deep strategics(but never said he didn't have any at all), I don't like his boring plays, especially in his TvT/TvP, and everyone goes apeshit on me.
"OMG U STUPID"
"STFU UR REASONS ARE RETARDED"
"LOL U JUST SOUND LIKE AN IRRATIONAL HATER TO ME"
"WTF YOUR STRANGE YOU PUT BOXER AHEAD OF NADA WHEN BOXER COULDNT BEAT ANYTIME WTF?"

Well, they didn't write in caps, but when I read through the replies, this is what translated in my head. jesus.
PaeZ
Profile Joined April 2005
Mexico1627 Posts
February 16 2007 13:09 GMT
#896
Just ignore the huge extreme fanboys and enjoy if their mouths are shut, thats way better than arguing, cause the will still do it not caring if you get pissed or not.
And regarding this subject Im a terran player so i cheer for nada, however is really enjoyable to watch savior play and it would be extremely amazing if he wins both finals at the same time (1 week difference when talking about the 2 biggest leagues on earth is nothing) it would be history so yeah... i like that also so lets just hope the better man wins :D
Sun
Profile Joined March 2006
United States551 Posts
February 16 2007 13:10 GMT
#897
1) The OSL Maps make his job easier
2) Savior found ways to win, but didn't look his usual self
3) Sure Savior won the other series against Nada, but that is one series, dif. maps, dif. situation... these things change all the time.
4) NaDa is playing as good as he has ever been.
5) NaDa's TvZ is pretty sexy
6) He wants that 4th OSL title badly
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7246 Posts
February 16 2007 13:20 GMT
#898
if savior uses similar builds in his games vs nada hell lose imo, saviors strong point was always his great early-midgame management that allowed him to fucking dominate late game, but he doesnt seem to be able to abuse his drone whoring as much right now
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Sun
Profile Joined March 2006
United States551 Posts
February 16 2007 13:28 GMT
#899
agreed sadist. I don't think he was toying around with Iris in those games, or is hiding anything special. I voted for Casy versus NaDa (I am by no means a Savior or NaDa fanboy) -- it will be a good match regardless.
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
February 16 2007 13:29 GMT
#900
I'd like to post one more thing. I don't think NaDa will win. but I think it will go 3-2 in favor of Savior in excellent games of ultimate proportions. But I might be wrong. to add to Suns VERY GOOD list of why NaDa has an extremely good shot of winning.

Savior is having to result to playing weird strats that isn't his normal game, because every game he plays is more information leaked. To which NaDa, "who is more strategic than people think - watch the games vs Casy and you will see what I mean" can use to his advantage. NaDa is good at doing what he does. Which is the Soul Key Terran Strategy.

His micro and macro, and overall game sense is in with the top terrans. Which are obviously. Casy, Iris, and Midas currently? But I think he is the best at SKTerran, which is obviously a very, very powerful strategy, if not the most rounded strategy in TvZ existance, since vessel can target all zerg units, and tanks cannot.

I'm not a fanboy of NaDa. I'm not a fanboy of Savior. I do admire them both for there current skill, but I don't worship them as I do Yo-Hwan's or Casy, or since iris's games... Iris!

What I think the NaDa vs Savior games will be like.

Game 1: NaDa doing an 8 rax bunker rush/bringing all scv's. He's pretty good at it, specially if its on a map like Longinus.

Game 2: Game will be close all the game. NaDa will play kind of similar to iris. Constant attacking pressure with the Soul Key Strategy. But Savior will some how pull micro miracles and pull a win. Savior will not lose 2 games in a row... MY OPINION.

Game 3: I'm just being weird and will say this game will be on Arkanoid. NaDa will win this game with the same strategy he used vs Casy. OR it will fail and his drops will do enough damage resulting in Savior losing.

Game 4: Savior will win, im guessing again it will be on hitchhiker, and savior will do crazy backdoor/ simultanious front door lurker/ling flooding and nada wont beable to handle it.

I Can't even image how game 5 will go, because I'm not a magical warlock, and my head would hurt to much. But I think Savior will win. But I could be full of shit, but this is what an opinion is all about. Enjoy, just people think about what you are saying when you say nada has no shot. You sound rediculous lol.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
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