EPTi didnt really see any obvious micro mistakes from iris though :\ dunno
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alffla
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i didnt really see any obvious micro mistakes from iris though :\ dunno | ||
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WiljushkA
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Hot_Bid
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On February 16 2007 04:35 GoBOXERgogo wrote: There is no way Iris has S class TvZ. Do you not realize savior is his teammate and he knows him very well? That and some good openers is what made this series. His micro and late game management still stink. He still has a shitty record TvZ. The end why are you dissing him so hard, iris just played the series of his life, and way better than nada played in superfight 3, but you didn't see anyone insulting him that omg nada stinks take your hypocrisy and shove it repeat: iris played great. | ||
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MarcX
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Someone mentioned, Iris had nothing to lose, all to gain, Savior had everything to lose. Well.. I don't think that worked out in Iris' favor. Due to the early game advantage Iris got, and this being the final game, pressure started mounting on Savior. While on the other hand, Iris started slacking because 1. he had nothing to lose, 2. he always sags a little after early game 3. he had the advantange. To beat Savior, you have to match his determination throughout the entire game. Iris couldn't. This is what allowed Savior to come back. BTW They both played absolutely amazing, I can't believe you guys are hating on either of them. | ||
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siro)
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alffla
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On February 16 2007 04:37 siro) wrote: time to rename the site liquidsavior.net haha, more like TEAMSAVIOR rofl | ||
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GoBOXERgogo
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On February 16 2007 04:37 Hot_Bid wrote: lol, what is it exactly he did great? I said he had good openers, is that not how he won BOTH THE GAMES HE DID? Seriously, wow. Yes he played better than I thought but now all of a suddon he's a tvz god? First game he won was with a great timing rush = opener. The other game he won was with another good opener with the vult harass and 1 base strat. Then all he did was roam through the middle with MM and tanks and gg. I gave him credit for what he's good at. But I actually watch all these fucking games and know where he sucks and he does in many areas. good day sirwhy are you dissing him so hard, iris just played the series of his life, and way better than nada played in superfight 3, but you didn't see anyone insulting him that omg nada stinks take your hypocrisy and shove it repeat: iris played great. | ||
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Vin{MBL}
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Hot_Bid
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Vin{MBL}
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On February 16 2007 04:44 Hot_Bid wrote: he played great relative to his strengths and weaknesses, obviously. he made generally good decisions and BOs for the entire series, and yes his late game micro and management is suspect but he played to his strengths very well and was overall quite impressive. he pushed savior harder than any terran has so far, so close to winning decisive game 5. to dismiss all that with a "he sucks" is just ignorant. i dunno if that is directed at me but if it is i didnt say he sucks i just said i didnt like him  btw when is the finals? NADA I BELIEVE | ||
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GoBOXERgogo
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Red_Dragon
Croatia2862 Posts
On February 16 2007 04:43 Vin[MBL] wrote: am i the only person here that doesnt like savior? I was one of the ones that didn`t like him. But when I saw his determination, execution, micro, strategy, game understanding and the was he thinks, oh God. I thought to myself wow this guy is awesome. edit: In final I will root for NaDa because he is old school, and he is so long on top. I want him to be the first one to beat Savior. After that, Savior can have 546616 osl titles. | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
vin i think there are a ton of people who hate savior, just check out any livereport of a savior game, there are a ton of ridiculously biased comments. | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 16 2007 04:47 GoBOXERgogo wrote: It doesn't look like we're arguing much. All I'm trying to say is when you really look at the games..iris just simply isn't at that level yet. He has the macro, the openers, just not the execution or the micro. if you really look at all his games you can see how much he fucks up. Luckily though in TvT and TvP he doesn't need such good micro and lightning decesions so he excells in them. yeah, iris isn't at saviors level. but he could still qualify as an S level tvz no? just cuz savior played better ;\ | ||
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Vin{MBL}
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On February 16 2007 04:48 Hot_Bid wrote: no i was talking to GoBOXERgogo, who imo was being overly critical of iris. you may not think he's S class TvZ but he played like it this series. vin i think there are a ton of people who hate savior, just check out any livereport of a savior game, there are a ton of ridiculously biased comments. i think its only cuz i have this weird pesonality where i dont like thing swhen tons of people like it eg. i LOVED LotR and when part 2 came out and everyone "swarmed" it i was like wtf same thing with harry potter | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On February 16 2007 04:50 Vin[MBL] wrote: i think its only cuz i have this weird pesonality where i dont like thing swhen tons of people like it eg. i LOVED LotR and when part 2 came out and everyone "swarmed" it i was like wtf same thing with harry potter lol so you're 'non-conformist' and 'non-mainstream' and shit hahah conforming to the trend of non-conformistism!! | ||
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GoBOXERgogo
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On February 16 2007 04:50 Vin[MBL] wrote: omg you're such a non conformist i think its only cuz i have this weird pesonality where i dont like thing swhen tons of people like it eg. i LOVED LotR and when part 2 came out and everyone "swarmed" it i was like wtf same thing with harry potter | ||
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Vin{MBL}
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On February 16 2007 04:49 alffla wrote: yeah, iris isn't at saviors level. but he could still qualify as an S level tvz no? just cuz savior played better ;\ Iris is a progamer kk? his TvZ level was not up to par with other progamers right? but this game he showed some real LEET SKILLZZZ BUT being at the PROGAMER level relative to YOU or any person that posts on this site he will own you so badly in tvz,,,, just my $.02 | ||
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GoBOXERgogo
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