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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 12 2015 05:32 GMT
#141
On August 12 2015 14:31 c3rberUs wrote:
I never thought I'll see a day when Bisu's carriers will make someone so indecisive.

That said, I don't know what Mind could've done against the strategy.

put up 20 turrets and attack Bisu's natural or other bases sooner?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 12 2015 05:32 GMT
#142
On August 12 2015 14:31 c3rberUs wrote:
I never thought I'll see a day when Bisu's carriers will make someone so indecisive.

That said, I don't know what Mind could've done against the strategy.

he needed to push much more decisively, I think
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
August 12 2015 05:33 GMT
#143
On August 12 2015 14:30 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 14:28 nbaker wrote:
Question for you guys: Is Bisu throwing in those DTs to burn through Mind's scans to make his carriers stronger? or are DTs just amazing?

honestly, not 100% sure but there's always the chance of a mine drag too on top of what you mentioned. Anyone else have a better idea?

Well Bisu knows he doesn't have any vessels and only has a few bases for comsats so DTs can really pack a punch.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
August 12 2015 05:33 GMT
#144
On August 12 2015 14:31 c3rberUs wrote:
I never thought I'll see a day when Bisu's carriers will make someone so indecisive.

That said, I don't know what Mind could've done against the strategy.

With his natural getting harassed by carriers much of the game and goliaths out of reach, could have considered a pack of wraiths...

Seemed to have plenty of resources with a dozen+ factories, maybe 3 starports pumping cloaked wraiths would have turned the battle for a bit, especially with Bisu, per usual, being so lax about building high temps
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
August 12 2015 05:35 GMT
#145
On August 12 2015 14:33 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 14:30 BigFan wrote:
On August 12 2015 14:28 nbaker wrote:
Question for you guys: Is Bisu throwing in those DTs to burn through Mind's scans to make his carriers stronger? or are DTs just amazing?

honestly, not 100% sure but there's always the chance of a mine drag too on top of what you mentioned. Anyone else have a better idea?

Well Bisu knows he doesn't have any vessels and only has a few bases for comsats so DTs can really pack a punch.


Bisu also had a sizable economic lead, so DTs always push the multi-tasking resources of the player they are used against. One slip and, as we saw, 6 or so SCVs drop. Late game DTs are always valuable, whether in SC:BW or SC2.
oxidized
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States324 Posts
August 12 2015 05:35 GMT
#146
The carriers having such a close distance to the nat was a huge boon for Bisu. I feel like Bisu planned for Carriers that map just in case he got a close nat position.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10397 Posts
August 12 2015 05:36 GMT
#147
ok mind. channel your inner flash vs best and crush his dreams.
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[[Starlight]]
Profile Joined December 2013
United States1578 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 05:37:32
August 12 2015 05:36 GMT
#148
LOL'ing @Bisu Dagger's dis of Jaehoon.


User was warned for being hilarious
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
August 12 2015 05:37 GMT
#149
No cross position games today.

CB.

Mind at 5. Bisu at 1. Standard openings so far.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 12 2015 05:37 GMT
#150
On August 12 2015 14:33 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 14:30 BigFan wrote:
On August 12 2015 14:28 nbaker wrote:
Question for you guys: Is Bisu throwing in those DTs to burn through Mind's scans to make his carriers stronger? or are DTs just amazing?

honestly, not 100% sure but there's always the chance of a mine drag too on top of what you mentioned. Anyone else have a better idea?

Well Bisu knows he doesn't have any vessels and only has a few bases for comsats so DTs can really pack a punch.

yes, thus the scan part ^^

On August 12 2015 14:33 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 14:31 c3rberUs wrote:
I never thought I'll see a day when Bisu's carriers will make someone so indecisive.

That said, I don't know what Mind could've done against the strategy.

With his natural getting harassed by carriers much of the game and goliaths out of reach, could have considered a pack of wraiths...

Seemed to have plenty of resources with a dozen+ factories, maybe 3 starports pumping cloaked wraiths would have turned the battle for a bit, especially with Bisu, per usual, being so lax about building high temps

I think it could've worked too but who knows, I think he was dedicating a lot of money into goliaths and 1-2 less production cycles might've cost him the game earlier?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
August 12 2015 05:39 GMT
#151
If Mind loses on HBR, should he drop out of the next SSL and claim bias towards Bisu?
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 05:40:10
August 12 2015 05:39 GMT
#152
On August 12 2015 14:39 deathgod6 wrote:
If Mind loses on HBR, should he drop out of the next SSL and claim bias towards Bisu?

if he puts some effort into the argument, why not?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
bioboyAT
Profile Joined July 2004
Austria1765 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 05:43:10
August 12 2015 05:41 GMT
#153
On August 12 2015 14:39 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 14:39 deathgod6 wrote:
If Mind loses on HBR, should he drop out of the next SSL and claim bias towards Bisu?

if he puts some effort into the argument, why not?


Oh boy, hahahaha.
Looks like a proper macro game coming up!

And carriers again ..
Milchmann | DeadVessel: Milchmann pwns. I fail.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10397 Posts
August 12 2015 05:43 GMT
#154
sick scan from mind. flash-esque. also more carriers jesus christ.
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oxidized
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-12 05:43:18
August 12 2015 05:43 GMT
#155
Once again, carriers! Bisu is going to abuse the close nat position again.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 12 2015 05:43 GMT
#156
^ lol. We'll see about that

Amazing scan by Mind! Now he knows! Please don't lose to carriers again!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
August 12 2015 05:43 GMT
#157
On August 12 2015 14:33 prech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 14:31 c3rberUs wrote:
I never thought I'll see a day when Bisu's carriers will make someone so indecisive.

That said, I don't know what Mind could've done against the strategy.

With his natural getting harassed by carriers much of the game and goliaths out of reach, could have considered a pack of wraiths...

Seemed to have plenty of resources with a dozen+ factories, maybe 3 starports pumping cloaked wraiths would have turned the battle for a bit, especially with Bisu, per usual, being so lax about building high temps

wraiths are awful and if you're pumping 3 star wraiths off of 3 bases a player of bisu's caliber will be able to tell the difference in production
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Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
August 12 2015 05:43 GMT
#158
On August 12 2015 14:39 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 14:39 deathgod6 wrote:
If Mind loses on HBR, should he drop out of the next SSL and claim bias towards Bisu?

if he puts some effort into the argument, why not?


see wha u did thar
HyralGambit
Profile Joined February 2014
2439 Posts
August 12 2015 05:43 GMT
#159
DAY9 TWEETED OGN STREAM!!!


D9 saving BW!!!
Passion overcomes corporate stupidity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX9hbbA-WP4#t=4h2m
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10397 Posts
August 12 2015 05:44 GMT
#160
wow bisu actually just went for the same damn build lmfao.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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