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On August 09 2015 20:17 sas.ZaRaki wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 19:59 GeckoXp wrote:On August 09 2015 19:35 juvenal wrote:On August 09 2015 19:08 LaStScan wrote:On August 09 2015 17:00 juvenal wrote:
Scan's karma sure going down, he should consider reviewing couple translations to restore it! On a serious note: Scan has always had lag issues in Defiler Tours, that's not a secret, I don't know why would you question the credibility of such claims. Oh lord, what a false drama maker. I played ALL of the defiler tours(the ones I participated) in the U.S. Because ru-us connection is fantastic. Not. Light only travels that fast buddy. Many DT players asked to ban you solely because of the high lat. ps: lol at the racism claims. It's the community worshiping korean pros and sometimes everything korean. "Latent racism". Worshipping Koreans doesn't mean you can display latent racism nonetheless. Have a closer look how often his nationality is stressed out, which is absolutely unrelated to the discussion about him playing. Granted, the rules were probably written without admins having any idea what kind of absurd contradictions they were about to generate. However, the entire discussion boils down to: Scan currently lags and therefore gets and unfair advantage Scan crossed the line and shouldn't be considered an amateur anymore vs. Scan did play in the past and is a member of the community We want to provide the community with games No nationality whatsoever needed. For now, I tend to agree that Scan might be thrown out of the tournaments (and for sure not play in the final TLS season), simply because the gap in his skill became too large. However, what's actually said is: - He is Korean, therefore he mustn't play. He also mustn't post. Korean's opinions do not matter.
- He shits on competition, reasons being he uses off race, and he probably laughs at us.
- He only visits these pages for money and "fame".
- He has no life and trains all day.
- All he ever did is laughable.
All that isn't needed. Who would possibly benefit from Scan moving away from any foreign BW page? He did helpful things, which he knew couldn't potentially bring him any kind of gain. I like him as a user and as that I want to keep him around. He for sure is more valuable to the scene than a "I never play but once was sort of famous" G5 or a "everyone fuck off, kurwas" Julia. I agree that certain users are being rude and unmannered in the way they are complaining, but you can´t generalize putting all the people in the same bag, a lot of people has expressed their opinion in really good terms and manner. I see no racism at all, I love korea and I love koreans I respect them as human beigns and I envy how skilled and hardworking they are. That being said I also think that letting Scan play hurts more than benefits the scene. The cast yesterday was being amazing then finals came and what happened is what we all know and sadly is the same that is going to happen over and over. Let´s try to respect more each other, we can´t start talking bad to each other if we don´t get what we want.
Well said.
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On August 10 2015 01:38 G5 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 09 2015 18:56 LaStScan wrote:On August 09 2015 16:52 G5 wrote:On August 09 2015 10:44 LaStScan wrote:
A few EU countries do have a little lag spike with KR on low latency, and what do you want me to do about it?
Trutacz lives in Poland, uses 15EU Internet to play against me on low latency. How will you explain about this to me?
Against eOnzerg in the final, we played on low latency in our first game, then in the 2nd game, he decided to change the latency on HIGH. Then I see a comment of him saying, "i make his rines looks like a total joke,now with this lag need 500 mutas to kill 10 rines :D"
@eonzerg, What happened to your words where you were saying "scan kill all of us" somewhere in the forum?
Your words are not matching now. It means you are saying you can beat me in any time. GL.
@Wallace, if i remember correctly, you were slightly lagging even when I was playing in the U.S.. I don't think this is my problem. Maybe either it's your internet service, or your country has not developed of the speedy network.
From now on, I'm just going to ignore all the comments. It's too toxic. And I do have a feeling you will say something like "oh yes, i beat scan" and talk about skills, but when you lose, look for an excuse. If you have a problem of this awesome competition host by Rus_Brain, then talk to the admins/organizers, don't tweak your words and try to group up with people.
Lastly, I will repeat again what I've said before. I, as a player, am just taking an opportunity and trying to perform high quality games. If you think you got some sportsmanship, man up, show what you got.
So, I get a warning for saying "HAHAHA" to scans post because (and I'm assuming here) I didn't explain myself well enough even though it's pretty clear how I feel about it. Much like my warning message from The_Templar which simply said "Really?". I suppose since I'm not a TL admin, what I write is held to a higher level and I must explain myself better. As such, let me try again: I read scans post and simply laughed. I don't think it's laughable, I know it is because that's all I did when I read it. I laugh because it's a post that's from a player who's Korean, playing in a "foreign tourney" from Korea, has won every tournament while occasionally off-racing (which tells me he's literally shitting on the competition), and is calling out the players and community he has been completely ravaging and winning money off of. To me, it's a joke. I also view almost every argument of "it's everyone else and not me" absolutely ridiculous and completely removed; this is no exception. He basically calls all of Poland poor, speculates that USA hasn't developed proper internet, and ties sportsmanship to dealing with inequalities and not complaining about them. The only positive thing he said to anyone was to the one man that's ensuring he stays in the tournament and paying his prize money. If that isn't funny as hell to any of you, ya'll need to get a sense of humor because I can't take people like that seriously. It's a joke lol. I assume you did not understand my words mostly. I used Comcast Xfinity 150MB/S DL, 10MB/s UL high speed boost something service. I am not calling out the players. I am just replying back to what they have said. Since when did I ever say all PL users are poor? Also, when did I say the US has not developed well? Or is my English bad for you to understand? Ask trutacz in person. He uses a cheap price internet service, and he is totally fine to play with most of the Korean on low latency(Including me on low latency). Read all the forums carefully. I never ever started an argument(s) and called out players. "Trutacz lives in Poland, uses 15EU Internet to play against me on low latency. How will you explain about this to me?" - This is why I say you imply Poland is poor. If you were just talking about Trutacz's individual internet, you wouldn't have mentioned Poland. "Maybe either it's your internet service, or your country has not developed of the speedy network." - This is why I say you speculate USA hasn't developed proper internet. Perhaps I don't understand you because your English is too poor and comes off the wrong way. As I was told you lived in the United States, maybe I expected better English from you that I should have. IF that is the case, I apologize for misunderstanding you. However, I do not agree with the notion that the lag is simply everyone else and not you. Even if Korea has the best internet in the world (which it does thanks to SKT1), it doesn't mean everyone in the world connects best with them. There are reasons Koreans and Chinese are excluded from foreigner tournaments and lag is part of it (granted though, it's not the biggest reason).
Adding an additional information implies Poland is poor. Just wow.. G5.. zzz
I'm talking about a country, BG. Not the U.S..
Is that how you understand of my sentences? Great job.
you probably know more vocabulary and much more fluent English than I am. Though, you are the only person understanding in that way at the moment. Even Geckoxp clearly said that he does not see me saying Poland is poor.
If you would like to bash my English, go ahead. I've worked my ass to finish most of my English courses in school in California. Currently only 1 English course left.
Oh, wait a minute. I think I shouldn't be replying and talking to you because maybe this is what you truly want and somehow dragging me in.
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duplicated somehow, sorry.
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Oh it's BG not the US who is in the stone age and that's total fine. This is becoming comical lol
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So now we are talking about internet speeds / Scan's english. Well, this is getting no where. I wonder how many Cups scan will win 3-0 in the finals in before people realize that we need a change.
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On August 10 2015 02:52 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 01:38 G5 wrote:On August 09 2015 18:56 LaStScan wrote:On August 09 2015 16:52 G5 wrote:On August 09 2015 10:44 LaStScan wrote:
A few EU countries do have a little lag spike with KR on low latency, and what do you want me to do about it?
Trutacz lives in Poland, uses 15EU Internet to play against me on low latency. How will you explain about this to me?
Against eOnzerg in the final, we played on low latency in our first game, then in the 2nd game, he decided to change the latency on HIGH. Then I see a comment of him saying, "i make his rines looks like a total joke,now with this lag need 500 mutas to kill 10 rines :D"
@eonzerg, What happened to your words where you were saying "scan kill all of us" somewhere in the forum?
Your words are not matching now. It means you are saying you can beat me in any time. GL.
@Wallace, if i remember correctly, you were slightly lagging even when I was playing in the U.S.. I don't think this is my problem. Maybe either it's your internet service, or your country has not developed of the speedy network.
From now on, I'm just going to ignore all the comments. It's too toxic. And I do have a feeling you will say something like "oh yes, i beat scan" and talk about skills, but when you lose, look for an excuse. If you have a problem of this awesome competition host by Rus_Brain, then talk to the admins/organizers, don't tweak your words and try to group up with people.
Lastly, I will repeat again what I've said before. I, as a player, am just taking an opportunity and trying to perform high quality games. If you think you got some sportsmanship, man up, show what you got.
So, I get a warning for saying "HAHAHA" to scans post because (and I'm assuming here) I didn't explain myself well enough even though it's pretty clear how I feel about it. Much like my warning message from The_Templar which simply said "Really?". I suppose since I'm not a TL admin, what I write is held to a higher level and I must explain myself better. As such, let me try again: I read scans post and simply laughed. I don't think it's laughable, I know it is because that's all I did when I read it. I laugh because it's a post that's from a player who's Korean, playing in a "foreign tourney" from Korea, has won every tournament while occasionally off-racing (which tells me he's literally shitting on the competition), and is calling out the players and community he has been completely ravaging and winning money off of. To me, it's a joke. I also view almost every argument of "it's everyone else and not me" absolutely ridiculous and completely removed; this is no exception. He basically calls all of Poland poor, speculates that USA hasn't developed proper internet, and ties sportsmanship to dealing with inequalities and not complaining about them. The only positive thing he said to anyone was to the one man that's ensuring he stays in the tournament and paying his prize money. If that isn't funny as hell to any of you, ya'll need to get a sense of humor because I can't take people like that seriously. It's a joke lol. I assume you did not understand my words mostly. I used Comcast Xfinity 150MB/S DL, 10MB/s UL high speed boost something service. I am not calling out the players. I am just replying back to what they have said. Since when did I ever say all PL users are poor? Also, when did I say the US has not developed well? Or is my English bad for you to understand? Ask trutacz in person. He uses a cheap price internet service, and he is totally fine to play with most of the Korean on low latency(Including me on low latency). Read all the forums carefully. I never ever started an argument(s) and called out players. "Trutacz lives in Poland, uses 15EU Internet to play against me on low latency. How will you explain about this to me?" - This is why I say you imply Poland is poor. If you were just talking about Trutacz's individual internet, you wouldn't have mentioned Poland. "Maybe either it's your internet service, or your country has not developed of the speedy network." - This is why I say you speculate USA hasn't developed proper internet. Perhaps I don't understand you because your English is too poor and comes off the wrong way. As I was told you lived in the United States, maybe I expected better English from you that I should have. IF that is the case, I apologize for misunderstanding you. However, I do not agree with the notion that the lag is simply everyone else and not you. Even if Korea has the best internet in the world (which it does thanks to SKT1), it doesn't mean everyone in the world connects best with them. There are reasons Koreans and Chinese are excluded from foreigner tournaments and lag is part of it (granted though, it's not the biggest reason). Adding an additional information implies Poland is poor. Just wow.. G5.. zzz I'm talking about a country, BG. Not the U.S.. Is that how you understand of my sentences? Great job. you probably know more vocabulary and much more fluent English than I am. Though, you are the only person understanding in that way at the moment. Even Geckoxp clearly said that he does not see me saying Poland is poor. If you would like to bash my English, go ahead. I've worked my ass to finish most of my English courses in school in California. Currently only 1 English course left. Oh, wait a minute. I think I shouldn't be replying and talking to you because maybe this is what you truly want and somehow dragging me in.
Yes, I am more fluent in English than you. Thank you for recognizing that. As such, your criticisms of my interpretation of your English writing is invalid. Go finish your last English course and try again if you think that'll help.
I don't want to drag you into a conversation. It's pretty obvious that we can't have a conversation... Egomaniac.
GGzerG is right. This is pointless and goes no where. I'm done arguing here. It's obviously not going to change anything. I'm just so disappointed in these admins and this scan kid. I won't even be reading this crap anymore.
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On August 10 2015 02:52 LaStScan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 01:38 G5 wrote:On August 09 2015 18:56 LaStScan wrote:On August 09 2015 16:52 G5 wrote:On August 09 2015 10:44 LaStScan wrote:
A few EU countries do have a little lag spike with KR on low latency, and what do you want me to do about it?
Trutacz lives in Poland, uses 15EU Internet to play against me on low latency. How will you explain about this to me?
Against eOnzerg in the final, we played on low latency in our first game, then in the 2nd game, he decided to change the latency on HIGH. Then I see a comment of him saying, "i make his rines looks like a total joke,now with this lag need 500 mutas to kill 10 rines :D"
@eonzerg, What happened to your words where you were saying "scan kill all of us" somewhere in the forum?
Your words are not matching now. It means you are saying you can beat me in any time. GL.
@Wallace, if i remember correctly, you were slightly lagging even when I was playing in the U.S.. I don't think this is my problem. Maybe either it's your internet service, or your country has not developed of the speedy network.
From now on, I'm just going to ignore all the comments. It's too toxic. And I do have a feeling you will say something like "oh yes, i beat scan" and talk about skills, but when you lose, look for an excuse. If you have a problem of this awesome competition host by Rus_Brain, then talk to the admins/organizers, don't tweak your words and try to group up with people.
Lastly, I will repeat again what I've said before. I, as a player, am just taking an opportunity and trying to perform high quality games. If you think you got some sportsmanship, man up, show what you got.
So, I get a warning for saying "HAHAHA" to scans post because (and I'm assuming here) I didn't explain myself well enough even though it's pretty clear how I feel about it. Much like my warning message from The_Templar which simply said "Really?". I suppose since I'm not a TL admin, what I write is held to a higher level and I must explain myself better. As such, let me try again: I read scans post and simply laughed. I don't think it's laughable, I know it is because that's all I did when I read it. I laugh because it's a post that's from a player who's Korean, playing in a "foreign tourney" from Korea, has won every tournament while occasionally off-racing (which tells me he's literally shitting on the competition), and is calling out the players and community he has been completely ravaging and winning money off of. To me, it's a joke. I also view almost every argument of "it's everyone else and not me" absolutely ridiculous and completely removed; this is no exception. He basically calls all of Poland poor, speculates that USA hasn't developed proper internet, and ties sportsmanship to dealing with inequalities and not complaining about them. The only positive thing he said to anyone was to the one man that's ensuring he stays in the tournament and paying his prize money. If that isn't funny as hell to any of you, ya'll need to get a sense of humor because I can't take people like that seriously. It's a joke lol. I assume you did not understand my words mostly. I used Comcast Xfinity 150MB/S DL, 10MB/s UL high speed boost something service. I am not calling out the players. I am just replying back to what they have said. Since when did I ever say all PL users are poor? Also, when did I say the US has not developed well? Or is my English bad for you to understand? Ask trutacz in person. He uses a cheap price internet service, and he is totally fine to play with most of the Korean on low latency(Including me on low latency). Read all the forums carefully. I never ever started an argument(s) and called out players. "Trutacz lives in Poland, uses 15EU Internet to play against me on low latency. How will you explain about this to me?" - This is why I say you imply Poland is poor. If you were just talking about Trutacz's individual internet, you wouldn't have mentioned Poland. "Maybe either it's your internet service, or your country has not developed of the speedy network." - This is why I say you speculate USA hasn't developed proper internet. Perhaps I don't understand you because your English is too poor and comes off the wrong way. As I was told you lived in the United States, maybe I expected better English from you that I should have. IF that is the case, I apologize for misunderstanding you. However, I do not agree with the notion that the lag is simply everyone else and not you. Even if Korea has the best internet in the world (which it does thanks to SKT1), it doesn't mean everyone in the world connects best with them. There are reasons Koreans and Chinese are excluded from foreigner tournaments and lag is part of it (granted though, it's not the biggest reason). Adding an additional information implies Poland is poor. Just wow.. G5.. zzz I'm talking about a country, BG. Not the U.S.. Is that how you understand of my sentences? Great job. you probably know more vocabulary and much more fluent English than I am. Though, you are the only person understanding in that way at the moment. Even Geckoxp clearly said that he does not see me saying Poland is poor. If you would like to bash my English, go ahead. I've worked my ass to finish most of my English courses in school in California. Currently only 1 English course left. Oh, wait a minute. I think I shouldn't be replying and talking to you because maybe this is what you truly want and somehow dragging me in.
хаха, just watch this, http://www.vbox7.com/play:0fee5f7b72 its on bulgarian but it bassically states that in 2011 we are on the 3rd place for download speed worldwide. Here internet is cheap and fast. And I dont remember myself lagging in a game ever. Altough our country current state is not very well, internet department is at top level.
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On August 10 2015 03:55 G5 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2015 02:52 LaStScan wrote:On August 10 2015 01:38 G5 wrote:On August 09 2015 18:56 LaStScan wrote:On August 09 2015 16:52 G5 wrote:On August 09 2015 10:44 LaStScan wrote:
A few EU countries do have a little lag spike with KR on low latency, and what do you want me to do about it?
Trutacz lives in Poland, uses 15EU Internet to play against me on low latency. How will you explain about this to me?
Against eOnzerg in the final, we played on low latency in our first game, then in the 2nd game, he decided to change the latency on HIGH. Then I see a comment of him saying, "i make his rines looks like a total joke,now with this lag need 500 mutas to kill 10 rines :D"
@eonzerg, What happened to your words where you were saying "scan kill all of us" somewhere in the forum?
Your words are not matching now. It means you are saying you can beat me in any time. GL.
@Wallace, if i remember correctly, you were slightly lagging even when I was playing in the U.S.. I don't think this is my problem. Maybe either it's your internet service, or your country has not developed of the speedy network.
From now on, I'm just going to ignore all the comments. It's too toxic. And I do have a feeling you will say something like "oh yes, i beat scan" and talk about skills, but when you lose, look for an excuse. If you have a problem of this awesome competition host by Rus_Brain, then talk to the admins/organizers, don't tweak your words and try to group up with people.
Lastly, I will repeat again what I've said before. I, as a player, am just taking an opportunity and trying to perform high quality games. If you think you got some sportsmanship, man up, show what you got.
So, I get a warning for saying "HAHAHA" to scans post because (and I'm assuming here) I didn't explain myself well enough even though it's pretty clear how I feel about it. Much like my warning message from The_Templar which simply said "Really?". I suppose since I'm not a TL admin, what I write is held to a higher level and I must explain myself better. As such, let me try again: I read scans post and simply laughed. I don't think it's laughable, I know it is because that's all I did when I read it. I laugh because it's a post that's from a player who's Korean, playing in a "foreign tourney" from Korea, has won every tournament while occasionally off-racing (which tells me he's literally shitting on the competition), and is calling out the players and community he has been completely ravaging and winning money off of. To me, it's a joke. I also view almost every argument of "it's everyone else and not me" absolutely ridiculous and completely removed; this is no exception. He basically calls all of Poland poor, speculates that USA hasn't developed proper internet, and ties sportsmanship to dealing with inequalities and not complaining about them. The only positive thing he said to anyone was to the one man that's ensuring he stays in the tournament and paying his prize money. If that isn't funny as hell to any of you, ya'll need to get a sense of humor because I can't take people like that seriously. It's a joke lol. I assume you did not understand my words mostly. I used Comcast Xfinity 150MB/S DL, 10MB/s UL high speed boost something service. I am not calling out the players. I am just replying back to what they have said. Since when did I ever say all PL users are poor? Also, when did I say the US has not developed well? Or is my English bad for you to understand? Ask trutacz in person. He uses a cheap price internet service, and he is totally fine to play with most of the Korean on low latency(Including me on low latency). Read all the forums carefully. I never ever started an argument(s) and called out players. "Trutacz lives in Poland, uses 15EU Internet to play against me on low latency. How will you explain about this to me?" - This is why I say you imply Poland is poor. If you were just talking about Trutacz's individual internet, you wouldn't have mentioned Poland. "Maybe either it's your internet service, or your country has not developed of the speedy network." - This is why I say you speculate USA hasn't developed proper internet. Perhaps I don't understand you because your English is too poor and comes off the wrong way. As I was told you lived in the United States, maybe I expected better English from you that I should have. IF that is the case, I apologize for misunderstanding you. However, I do not agree with the notion that the lag is simply everyone else and not you. Even if Korea has the best internet in the world (which it does thanks to SKT1), it doesn't mean everyone in the world connects best with them. There are reasons Koreans and Chinese are excluded from foreigner tournaments and lag is part of it (granted though, it's not the biggest reason). Adding an additional information implies Poland is poor. Just wow.. G5.. zzz I'm talking about a country, BG. Not the U.S.. Is that how you understand of my sentences? Great job. you probably know more vocabulary and much more fluent English than I am. Though, you are the only person understanding in that way at the moment. Even Geckoxp clearly said that he does not see me saying Poland is poor. If you would like to bash my English, go ahead. I've worked my ass to finish most of my English courses in school in California. Currently only 1 English course left. Oh, wait a minute. I think I shouldn't be replying and talking to you because maybe this is what you truly want and somehow dragging me in. Yes, I am more fluent in English than you. Thank you for recognizing that. As such, your criticisms of my interpretation of your English writing is invalid. Go finish your last English course and try again if you think that'll help. I don't want to drag you into a conversation. It's pretty obvious that we can't have a conversation... Egomaniac. GGzerG is right. This is pointless and goes no where. I'm done arguing here. It's obviously not going to change anything. I'm just so disappointed in these admins and this scan kid. I won't even be reading this crap anymore.
You're acting childish. Very disappointing to see from a veteran player.
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