EPTother games such flops lol, though I appreciate olympus going for it
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N.geNuity
United States5112 Posts
other games such flops lol, though I appreciate olympus going for it | ||
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Miragee
8493 Posts
On July 06 2015 03:36 BisuDagger wrote: I'm recording the first two games later today. Ill post links after. Sorry for the delay. Don't worry, glad you are doing it! Looking forward to Mind vs Effort because I missed that one. | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
3rd pylon should be finished before core finished (2 zealots into goons). In PvP, this is the usually the build order. When the core finishes, the population is 24/25. That's why you need 3rd pylon before core finishes. However, Olympus lost 1 zealot, and he did not put the 3rd pylon on time for his strategy. All of his game plan delayed. A little disappointed of his optimization skill.  | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19225 Posts
On July 06 2015 05:51 LaStScan wrote: Olympus's 3rd pylon was so slow for adun. 3rd pylon should be finished before core finished (2 zealots into goons). In PvP, this is the usually the build order. When the core finishes, the population is 24/25. That's why you need 3rd pylon before core finishes. However, Olympus lost 1 zealot, and he did not put the 3rd pylon on time for his strategy. All of his game plan delayed. A little disappointed of his optimization skill. Thanks for the TL sign Scan. | ||
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yestaiga
Canada21 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
On July 06 2015 00:54 amazingxkcd wrote: sorry for not showing up to cast, I dont think you guys would have wanted to hear me be in space again. How could you say that when I finally get used to your cast? Hoping to see you with Dagger and Sayle trio again. On July 06 2015 09:22 yestaiga wrote: Are VODs up anywhere for this yet?? | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
Did you catch me? | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On July 06 2015 14:44 outscar wrote: How could you say that when I finally get used to your cast? Hoping to see you with Dagger and Sayle trio again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-W2tqyTqoM Your posted VOD is not available for my country(Korea). | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24580 Posts
On July 06 2015 03:36 BisuDagger wrote: I'm recording the first two games later today. Ill post links after. Sorry for the delay. sooooo | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
Mind really wants to beat Bisu in the finals again huh? With how Scan described Olympus' preventable delays, I think it was Olympus' lost rather than Last's win. | ||
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No_eL
Chile1438 Posts
I hope we will see you soon playing in the cabins. Maybe next SSL? Or before that? | ||
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1289 Posts
On July 07 2015 02:42 No_eL wrote: yes scan, we saw you in the stream! Was so nice to have TL presence in the audience! I hope we will see you soon playing in the cabins. Maybe next SSL? Or before that? Due to the OGN's schedule, each SSL will take a long time to finish. I won't be participating until next year of summer. It also depends on sponsorship and existence in the future. | ||
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prech
United States2948 Posts
Hopefully our Korean speakers will know more, but there's been a big uproar across many of the progamers' Afreeca pages and the Ygosu BW forum, spanning hundreds of posts... Thanks to ShloobeR for translation help. Apparently OGN had been using Windows 7 for BW and alerted progamers of this, giving them time to adequately prepare.  Effort asked that they switch to Windows XP noting Win7 is not as responsive when running BW, but was denied.Anyhow, it seems after the match against  Mind, EffOrt had a bit of a drunken tirade on his stream, something about his muta control not being as robust as he's used to. Apparently  Bisu made a request to use WinXP and lo and behold, all the OGN computers switched over from Win7, but EffOrt was denied the same opportunity when he had tried to request this earlier, so he was fully expecting Win7. When he showed up for his match, he was surprised to find WinXP instead, so he noted that Bisu received star treatment and a double standard, as well as his muta control problems.It seems Sea and HiyA made some remarks about it on their streams, further propagating the controversy... From what I could gather with Google Translate, a lot of the forum posts are discussing the validity of the operating system responsiveness issue, as well as EffOrt's professionalism.I didn't see the drunken VOD on EffOrt's Afreeca page, so maybe he's already removed it. He made a post yesterday that he's going to take some time off and has been quiet since... + Show Spoiler [Two Korean forum threads] + 저번 시즌 윈7을 사용하는 스베누 리그에서 김정우가 윈도우xp로 교체 해달라는 건의를 함 아마 윈도우7과 xp는 미세하지만 반응속도 차이가 있음. 온겜넷에서는 안된다고 거절했고 수긍한 정우는 윈7으로 바꿔 6개월간 연습함. 그런데 이번 시즌 택신이 윈xp 사용여부를 건의함. 온겜넷측에선 다른 선수들의 건의와 달리 교체를 수락 했고 김정우는 거기에 있어서 빡이돔. 내가 들은 이야기로 이게 맞는거 같은데 어제 김정우가 술마시고 감정적으로 말을 막한점이 있다. 자기도 아니라고 생각한 말들을 했을거라 생각하고 그만큼 맘상했을거란거 이해도 된다. 택신이 잘못한건 없는데 괜히 밉보이는 점도 있는거 같고 빨리 해결됬으면 한다 2010년에 대한항공 스타리그 우승자였던 김정우가 갑자기 스베누 스타리그 기권이유.. 1.윈도우7과 윈도우xp 뮤탈 반응속도가 달라서 온게임넷에 xp로 교체 요구. 2.근데 온게임넷은 김정우의견 묵살 3.김택용이 온게임넷에 xp로 바꿔달라고 요구 근데 온게임넷이 김택용 요구 들어줘서 xp로 바꿔줌 4.김정우는 온게임넷에서 xp로 안바꿔준다해서 다시 윈도우7로 연습함 5.오늘 스베누 리그경기 참가했는데 김택용 요구로 이미 컴퓨터가 xp로 바꿔져 있었음 6.결국 김정우 오늘경기 지고 빡쳐서 온게임넷에 리그기권선언함. 7.김택용이 말한건 들어주면서 온게임넷이 김정우 의견은 무시함 정리 결국 스베누나 온게임넷은 스타리그의 흥행을 위해선 흥행카드인 김택용이 결승전에 가야 흥행이됨 다른선수 의견은 반영안해주면서 김택용 의견은 적극적으로 반영해줌 김정우는 차별대우를 받은게 강했고 스스로 난 1회우승자고 택용이형은 3회우승자니까 클라스가 다르니 어쩔수없다 리그기권선언 | ||
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c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3809 Posts
but Effort is claiming that the impact on mutalisk control is not insubstantial | ||
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TheGreatOne
United States534 Posts
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outscar
2832 Posts
On July 06 2015 17:33 LaStScan wrote: Your posted VOD is not available for my country(Korea). This is bullshit from OGN, but be smart, go proxy. On July 07 2015 15:08 prech wrote: ^^Thanks, BD Hopefully our Korean speakers will know more, but there's been a big uproar across many of the progamers' Afreeca pages and the Ygosu BW forum, spanning hundreds of posts... Thanks to ShloobeR for translation help. Apparently OGN had been using Windows 7 for BW and alerted progamers of this, giving them time to adequately prepare. Effort asked that they switch to Windows XP noting Win7 is not as responsive when running BW, but was denied.Anyhow, it seems after the match against Mind, EffOrt had a bit of a drunken tirade on his stream, something about his muta control not being as robust as he's used to. Apparently Bisu made a request to use WinXP and lo and behold, all the OGN computers switched over from Win7, but EffOrt was denied the same opportunity when he had tried to request this earlier, so he was fully expecting Win7. When he showed up for his match, he was surprised to find WinXP instead, so he noted that Bisu received star treatment and a double standard, as well as his muta control problems.It seems Sea and HiyA made some remarks about it on their streams, further propagating the controversy... From what I could gather with Google Translate, a lot of the forum posts are discussing the validity of the operating system responsiveness issue, as well as EffOrt's professionalism.I didn't see the drunken VOD on EffOrt's Afreeca page, so maybe he's already removed it. He made a post yesterday that he's going to take some time off and has been quiet since... + Show Spoiler [Two Korean forum threads] + 저번 시즌 윈7을 사용하는 스베누 리그에서 김정우가 윈도우xp로 교체 해달라는 건의를 함 아마 윈도우7과 xp는 미세하지만 반응속도 차이가 있음. 온겜넷에서는 안된다고 거절했고 수긍한 정우는 윈7으로 바꿔 6개월간 연습함. 그런데 이번 시즌 택신이 윈xp 사용여부를 건의함. 온겜넷측에선 다른 선수들의 건의와 달리 교체를 수락 했고 김정우는 거기에 있어서 빡이돔. 내가 들은 이야기로 이게 맞는거 같은데 어제 김정우가 술마시고 감정적으로 말을 막한점이 있다. 자기도 아니라고 생각한 말들을 했을거라 생각하고 그만큼 맘상했을거란거 이해도 된다. 택신이 잘못한건 없는데 괜히 밉보이는 점도 있는거 같고 빨리 해결됬으면 한다 2010년에 대한항공 스타리그 우승자였던 김정우가 갑자기 스베누 스타리그 기권이유.. 1.윈도우7과 윈도우xp 뮤탈 반응속도가 달라서 온게임넷에 xp로 교체 요구. 2.근데 온게임넷은 김정우의견 묵살 3.김택용이 온게임넷에 xp로 바꿔달라고 요구 근데 온게임넷이 김택용 요구 들어줘서 xp로 바꿔줌 4.김정우는 온게임넷에서 xp로 안바꿔준다해서 다시 윈도우7로 연습함 5.오늘 스베누 리그경기 참가했는데 김택용 요구로 이미 컴퓨터가 xp로 바꿔져 있었음 6.결국 김정우 오늘경기 지고 빡쳐서 온게임넷에 리그기권선언함. 7.김택용이 말한건 들어주면서 온게임넷이 김정우 의견은 무시함 정리 결국 스베누나 온게임넷은 스타리그의 흥행을 위해선 흥행카드인 김택용이 결승전에 가야 흥행이됨 다른선수 의견은 반영안해주면서 김택용 의견은 적극적으로 반영해줌 김정우는 차별대우를 받은게 강했고 스스로 난 1회우승자고 택용이형은 3회우승자니까 클라스가 다르니 어쩔수없다 리그기권선언 Maybe OGN denied switching to XP from Win7 because of only 1 player, but then Bisu (and maybe other's too who use XP) told that he used to play on this OS so they changed it because of numerous requests. You can't say no when there are only 16 top players there. Then what the hell is Effort's problem? He got WinXP which he requested/used to practice when he showed against Mind. | ||
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Ty2
United States1434 Posts
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Piste
6174 Posts
Does it create more latency? Effort seems like a jelly child, he got what he wanted and still it's no good enough. Mind would have dropped him anyway tho. it's a pity he let's down his fans like that and leaves a running televised tournament. I hope he will not be accepted to SSL never again so at least we get to see players who are at least willing to try. | ||
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