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LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-09 23:55:59
July 03 2015 16:28 GMT
#1
BWAPI mini Tournament #1
(Wiki)BWAPI mini Tour 1
Update 7 July: Ro32 changed to Ro16. Tournament now starts at 11:30 AM CEST. New method for signing up a bot.
Update #2: Channel name for this tournament is: BWAPI

Hello everyone,

Now that I have permission from ICCUP.face, I can start organizing the BWAPI mini tour.
This tournament is created to let the bot developers test their bot(s) in a tournament setting, which will be useful for those that are going to participate in the next CIG StarCraft AI competition. The format is going to be a Ro16 Bo1 double elimination with a Bo3 Finals. All games will be played on Fighting Spirit.

Tournament information:

In this tournament, both human players and bots are allowed to sign on. I reserved 6 spots for bot developers.

The tournament will be held at 11 July 2015. The tournament starts at 11:30 (AM) CEST. Because some bot developers cannot be available at that time due to time-zones, I am going to operate three bots alongside my own bot. This service is first come, first served for all bot developers who cannot be online at the given time due to time-zones.

Registering:

There is no rank requirement for both bots and human players.

In order to register as a human player, fill in the following template below and post it in this topic or pm it to me:

------------------------------
ICCUP ID:
Maximum ICCUP rank:
Current ICCUP rank:
Race (random is not allowed):
------------------------------

In order to register a bot, send me a pm with the template above if you are going to operate your own bot. Do indicate as well that you are registering a bot.

If you cannot operate your bot due to time constraints and want me to operate your bot, send me a pm with a request to operate your bot. In order to prevent me from abusing the DLL/Java that I receive, we will arrange a match where LetaBot will play 5 games against your bot. The result of these matches will be used in the tournament. After these 5 games you will send me your bot DLL/Java and I will operate it during the tournament.

If you aren't available for such a match, you can send me the DLL/Java and I will immediately start a Bo5 match myself the moment that I download the DLL/Java. Do note that in either way my bot is still in development. So my bot will play differently in the bot match that in the actual comeptition.

The bot registration closes at Thursday 9 July 23:00 CEST. Any bot slot that isn't filled is opened for human players.
Sending a DLL is still possible till Friday 10 July 23:00 CEST, but playing games on ICCUP beforehand isn't anymore.

Initial seeding:

Update 7 July: dropped the D+ or lower requirement vs bots. Now low rank will be based on the ranking of the players in the tournament.

At the start of the Ro16, each bot will be paired with a low ranked player due to the low play level of most bots. Higher ranked players will be seeded based on when they sign up.

Prize money:
I currently have a paysafe card of €25 and a paysafe card of €10 available for the first place and second place respectively. Both bot developers and human players are eligible for this prize money.

Tournament system:

The initial seeding will be available at the team liquid wiki: (Wiki)BWAPI mini Tour 1
If it is possible, I will use the defiler.ru tournament system for this tournament.

Other information:
- No race picking. You only use the race that you registered with.
- Everyone is allowed to use the observer version of Fighting Spirit, but I would advise bot operators to instead give the replays to the casters. This due to the fact that the high apm can cause lag if an observer is present.
- Bot developers are allowed to let someone other than their-self or me operate their bot. As long as that person is available at 11:30 CEST and can stay for all games that the bot has to play. If the operator has to leave, all further games that the bot has to play are automatically forfeit
- Bot developers are eligible for prize money if their bot wins. Even if they are not operating their own bot.
- Bot operator should not use Anti-hack as it conflicts with the BWAPI. Human players should have AH on the whole tournament, unless somehow it does not work when playing against a BWAPI bot. In that case they can turn it off when playing against a bot.
- BWAPI bots should have the "complete map information" flag set to disabled (by default it is).
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1200 Posts
July 03 2015 19:46 GMT
#2
1:30AM PST 4:30AM EST ouch so early
Flash should fear Sacsri
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9516 Posts
July 04 2015 16:56 GMT
#3
On July 04 2015 04:46 art_of_turtle wrote:
1:30AM PST 4:30AM EST ouch so early

Bots don't need sleep silly.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 04 2015 17:50 GMT
#4
On July 05 2015 01:56 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2015 04:46 art_of_turtle wrote:
1:30AM PST 4:30AM EST ouch so early

Bots don't need sleep silly.

So true.

Anyway, if no more than 15 players sign up, I can make it a DE Ro16 and start the tournament later since there are less matches to be played.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
ixuz
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Sweden38 Posts
July 04 2015 18:55 GMT
#5
Cool I'll check my schedule to see if I can attend
lewl lewl
trutaCz
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland686 Posts
July 04 2015 22:12 GMT
#6
trutacz
a+
d
zerg

Sign me up.
yo~.~
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 04 2015 22:24 GMT
#7
On July 05 2015 07:12 trutaCz wrote:
trutacz
a+
d
zerg

Sign me up.


I registered you on the wiki: (Wiki)BWAPI mini Tour 1 (participants list is probably still in the unchecked version).
When the defiler.ru or other tournament system goes online for this tournament, you can be added there as well.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
mSj)tokyoa
Profile Joined September 2014
Russian Federation27 Posts
July 05 2015 08:25 GMT
#8
justokyoa
b-
b-
zerg
non.
Malkiyah
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation92 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-05 20:46:40
July 05 2015 19:29 GMT
#9
malkiyah
b+
c
zerg
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 05 2015 20:43 GMT
#10
On July 06 2015 04:29 Malkiyah wrote:
malkiyah
b+
c
zerg\protoss


This tournament doesn't allow race-picking. So you have to pick zerg or protoss.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada777 Posts
July 05 2015 20:45 GMT
#11
castle[eMg]
B-
B-
protoss
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 06 2015 12:41 GMT
#12
On July 06 2015 05:43 LetaBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2015 04:29 Malkiyah wrote:
malkiyah
b+
c
zerg\protoss


This tournament doesn't allow race-picking. So you have to pick zerg or protoss.


On July 06 2015 04:29 Malkiyah wrote:
malkiyah
b+
c
zerg


Added.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 07 2015 11:23 GMT
#13
Tournament is changed to a Ro16. Because of this, the tournament starts later due to the fact that the previously first set of games don't have to be played (new time: 11:30 AM CEST).

I also added another method of getting me to operate your bot. This method simply involves you sending the DLL/Java without a match on ICCUP. I will run the match internally on a LAN.

I also dropped the explicit D+ or lower requirement vs bots. Now the lower rank is based on all the ranks that sign up in this tournament.


After the bot registration is closed (Thursday 9 July 2015 23:00 CEST) I will either have a response from yoda (is he on vacation?), or I will use the challonge system. The ICCUP channel name will also be given at that time.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
SiR.Artanis
Profile Joined January 2013
17 Posts
July 07 2015 20:38 GMT
#14
ICCUP ID: mSj[Dreamer]
Maximum ICCUP rank: B
Current ICCUP rank: D
Race (random is not allowed): protoss
tscmoo
Profile Joined July 2015
11 Posts
July 08 2015 03:38 GMT
#15
Hey, you can sign up my bot.

tscmoo, zerg
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
July 08 2015 06:59 GMT
#16
iNs.Sero
A-
Terran
<3 FlaSh HiyA Stats HoeJJa
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 08 2015 09:34 GMT
#17
On July 08 2015 12:38 tscmoo wrote:
Hey, you can sign up my bot.

tscmoo, zerg


Hey tscmoo good to see you on TL. Are you going to operate your bot during the tournament or do you want me to operate your bot?
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
tscmoo
Profile Joined July 2015
11 Posts
July 08 2015 11:09 GMT
#18
I'll do it myself.
I wonder what you meant about the other option where you will run the match internally on LAN, though. You can't do lan with random people over the internet o.o
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 08 2015 11:50 GMT
#19
On July 08 2015 20:09 tscmoo wrote:
I'll do it myself.
I wonder what you meant about the other option where you will run the match internally on LAN, though. You can't do lan with random people over the internet o.o


When a bot developers sends me his DLL I can run his DLL on one machine and my bot on another. That way the match doesn't have to be played over ICCUP (two apm spamming bots can lag over ICCUP).
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
tscmoo
Profile Joined July 2015
11 Posts
July 08 2015 11:53 GMT
#20
Oh, just against your bot. I see
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 08 2015 12:18 GMT
#21
Forgot that a paysafe card comes in €25 instead of €20. Prize money is now updated.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
ixuz
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Sweden38 Posts
July 08 2015 21:17 GMT
#22
I can't play this event, have other irl plans.
Will vods/replays be published?
lewl lewl
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 08 2015 21:48 GMT
#23
On July 09 2015 06:17 ixuz wrote:
I can't play this event, have other irl plans.
Will vods/replays be published?


Replays will be submitted to verify the wins/losses (just like defiler tournament). I am planning to cast all the games that are played by the bots in this tournament. This cast will be uploaded to youtube.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-09 20:11:21
July 09 2015 20:11 GMT
#24
I made a preliminary bracket for this tournament on (Wiki)BWAPI mini Tour 1 . In about 1 hour from now the bot spots will be opened up. You can still submit your bot by sending the DLL, but the option of playing games on ICCUP beforehand is no longer available.

The registration for human players (and bot developers that send a DLL) closes tomorrow (Friday) at 23:00 CEST. After that time, I will reveal the Challogne and finalize the bracket on liquipedia.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada777 Posts
July 09 2015 22:41 GMT
#25
sorry i can't make this event now, i've had something come up. my id that i signed up was -> castle[eMg]
AKA: castle[eMg]@USEast/ iCCup
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 09 2015 22:42 GMT
#26
On July 10 2015 07:41 castleeMg wrote:
sorry i can't make this event now, i've had something come up. my id that i signed up was -> castle[eMg]



Ok, I de-registered you.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
Bylat
Profile Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3 Posts
July 10 2015 10:20 GMT
#27
ICCUP ID: IWL-VL
Maximum ICCUP rank: A
Current ICCUP rank: A-
Race (random is not allowed): Zerg
VladivostoK
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 10 2015 11:53 GMT
#28
On July 10 2015 19:20 Bylat wrote:
ICCUP ID: IWL-VL
Maximum ICCUP rank: A
Current ICCUP rank: A-
Race (random is not allowed): Zerg


Registered.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 13:27:53
July 10 2015 12:43 GMT
#29
Krasi0 bot added to the tournament. I will be operating it during the tournament.

Also a reminder that bot vs human and bot vs bot games have to be played with "Use map settings" (UMS) due to the fact that bots don't have anti hack loaded in.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
tscmoo
Profile Joined July 2015
11 Posts
July 10 2015 13:12 GMT
#30
I'm playing just fine without anti hack with Melee game mode. One on One or Top vs Bottom count as ladder games, so as long we don't do those it should be fine.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 10 2015 13:24 GMT
#31
Melee can work as well, as long as it doesn't count for ladder games.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
iwl-fuNny
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation74 Posts
July 10 2015 14:14 GMT
#32
Nexus1
A-
Protoss
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 10 2015 21:21 GMT
#33
Registration is now closed. You can find the bracket at (Wiki)BWAPI mini Tour 1 .

Since I can let my bot (and krasi0 bot which I also operate) run in Wmode, I will be available on Skype in the ICCUP skype group and on TL.
Once you have finished a game, upload it to http://repdepot.net/ and send the link to me via TL pm together with the result of the game.

Since the bots are very CPU heavy, I will only be running one at a time. So the first match that I will play is Krasi0bot vs Russia Tokyoa . The matches of Krasi0bot vs LetaBot have already been run internally. Tscmoo is not operated by me.

Since edits to the wiki do not need to be checked, I will keep the bracket up to date there. If anyone wants, I can also use the Challonge system.

In the human vs human matches you have until 12:30 CEST to appear for the tournament. If by then you still are not available for your first match, you will automatically forfeit all your games.

You can contact me for any issues during the tournament.

In case you got first or second place, contact me on the TL pm. There we will arrange how the paysafe code is going to be transferred to you.


The channel on ICCUP is: BWAPI . See you all tomorrow.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 21:39:38
July 10 2015 21:38 GMT
#34
Don't expect too much out of my bot. I still have some modules that will only be finished for the CIG by the looks of it. Anyway here is a poll for all you who love to predict outcomes:

Poll: Which bot will get the furthest?

Tscmoo (2)
 
67%

LetaBot (1)
 
33%

Krasi0bot (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Which bot will get the furthest?

(Vote): LetaBot
(Vote): Krasi0bot
(Vote): Tscmoo

If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
July 11 2015 07:22 GMT
#35
Looking forward to the matches. Which version of krasi0 did you get btw?
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 08:14 GMT
#36
On July 11 2015 16:22 nepeta wrote:
Looking forward to the matches. Which version of krasi0 did you get btw?


2.35
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 09:43 GMT
#37
I am currently on the skype group if anybody needs me.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9516 Posts
July 11 2015 09:59 GMT
#38
Why is the stream offline?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 10:12 GMT
#39
On July 11 2015 18:59 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Why is the stream offline?



The stream will only start after all krasi0 and LetaBot games are played.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9516 Posts
July 11 2015 10:30 GMT
#40
On July 11 2015 19:12 LetaBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 18:59 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Why is the stream offline?



The stream will only start after all krasi0 and LetaBot games are played.

You should've probably put that time for the event then :d

Right now, the event is sitting under the calendar with no stream attached.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 11:00 GMT
#41
I mentioned it in the description. It is hard to estimate when exactly I am done with my games. I will keep it in mind next time though.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 11:24 GMT
#42
Ok last of my bot games is currently in progress. Going to live stream around 14:00 CEST.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 12:32 GMT
#43
Having some problems with the wireless here at my university. I thought I had internet via utp. Trying to fix it now.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 12:36 GMT
#44
It looks like repdepot.net is bugged atm. Every replay is 0kb. So for anyone wanting to send me replays, use a temporary file hosting website instead.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 13:03 GMT
#45
Got the utp connected again. Going to live stream krasi0bot vs LetaBot
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 11 2015 13:38 GMT
#46
Congratulations to iwl-fuNny (Nexus1) for second place and Trutacz for first place.

Since all bots can still only barely reach D+ it should be of no surprise that C level and above still triumph over the bots. This tournament showed that early ling pressure seems to be a problem that bots still face.
This information can prove useful for the upcoming CIG tournament for all bot developers.

I will be making a quick recap video of all games play today. I am planning to rebroadcasted all the bot games with live commentary somewhere after 15 July.

Once I have all the replays, I will upload them and put a link here and on the wiki. Repdepot seems bugged right now (all replays 0kb), so they will be placed somewhere else for now. If you played in this tournament, zip/rar all your replays from this tournament, upload them to a file dropped and PM me on TL with the link. Thanks in advance.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
theleo_ua
Profile Joined December 2010
Ukraine150 Posts
July 11 2015 18:29 GMT
#47
On July 09 2015 06:48 LetaBot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 06:17 ixuz wrote:
I can't play this event, have other irl plans.
Will vods/replays be published?


Replays will be submitted to verify the wins/losses (just like defiler tournament). I am planning to cast all the games that are played by the bots in this tournament. This cast will be uploaded to youtube.


Is this https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjWJp8W3CXr9yGc1-r4jYHQ/videos your channel?
My BW events/showmatches: https://tinyurl.com/theleo-fund / This will be awesome if they manage to only improve the graphics but keep the gameplay EXACTLY THE SAME. One thing that makes BW great to watch is actually the buggy pathfinding (c) Dante08
ArmadA[NaS]
Profile Joined January 2014
United States347 Posts
July 11 2015 22:58 GMT
#48
Interesting results. Since you say the bots are around D+ level, will you be playing them on the ladder to figure out where they need to improve? I remember the UAlberta Skynet bot played some games and was able to beat a few C- players.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 12 2015 02:47 GMT
#49
On July 12 2015 03:29 theleo_ua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 06:48 LetaBot wrote:
On July 09 2015 06:17 ixuz wrote:
I can't play this event, have other irl plans.
Will vods/replays be published?


Replays will be submitted to verify the wins/losses (just like defiler tournament). I am planning to cast all the games that are played by the bots in this tournament. This cast will be uploaded to youtube.


Is this https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjWJp8W3CXr9yGc1-r4jYHQ/videos your channel?

Yes it is. That is where the VODs will be uploaded.

On July 12 2015 07:58 f10eqq wrote:
Interesting results. Since you say the bots are around D+ level, will you be playing them on the ladder to figure out where they need to improve? I remember the UAlberta Skynet bot played some games and was able to beat a few C- players.

Some bots played ranked on the ladder. Namely

Skynet:
http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/Skynet_bt.html
ICEBot:
http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/icebot.html
EISBot:
http://iccup.com/starcraft/gamingprofile/djsherman.html

I also let my bot play on ICCUP unranked every once in a while to figure out improvements for my bot. From what I have seen, the bots play decent in the mid game, but are still very weak in the early game. Late game some bots have trouble with late game units from other races.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
July 13 2015 20:10 GMT
#50
After I receive the replays from Malkiyah via an alternative to repdepot.com (like filedropper) I will upload all replays and make a quick recap video.

BTW, does anybody know what happened to repdepot.net? All replays there seem to have been reduced to 0kb . Did the server run out of HD space?
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
LetaBot
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
Netherlands557 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-16 18:03:36
July 15 2015 15:32 GMT
#51
I have just uploaded all the replays that I have to iccup.com

edit 16 July: All replays now uploaded

Here are the replays from the BWAPI mini tour #1

Replays (Bo1):

LetaBot vs Malkiyah:
http://iccup.com/en/replays/1126761.html
LetaBot vs Bylat:
http://iccup.com/en/replays/1126764.html
LetaBot vs Krasi0:
http://iccup.com/replays/1126772.html
Malkiyah vs Krasi0 (operated by LetaBot):
http://iccup.com/replays/1126773.html
Nexus1 vs tscmoo:
http://iccup.com/replays/1126776.html
trutacz vs Nexus1:
http://iccup.com/replays/1126779.html
Malkiyah vs Nexus1:
http://iccup.com/replays/1126781.html
trutacz vs Bylat:
http://iccup.com/replays/1126792.html
Malkiyah vs Bylat:
http://iccup.com/replays/1126798.html
Malkiyah vs tscmoo:
http://iccup.com/replays/1127576.html
Malkiyah vs Bylat:
http://iccup.com/replays/1127577.html
Grand Final (Bo3):
trutacz vs Nexus1 (game 1):
http://iccup.com/replays/1126784.html
trutacz vs Nexus1 (game 2):
http://iccup.com/en/replays/1126790.html



Since the deadline for the CIG has been extended, I might do a BWAPI mini tour #2 at 26 July. This time LetaBot can do more than rush builds, so don't expect the same as #1 .
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
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July 17 2015 01:05 GMT
#52
The last 2 replays have now also been uploaded. Quick recap video is also finished, you can find it below:







Casting bot replays will be reserved for the BWAPI mini tour #2 if the level of play from the bots is higher by then.
If you cannot win with 100 apm, win with 100 cpm.
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