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United States2948 Posts
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United States2948 Posts
Poll: First to Advance?Sea (5) 56% Modesty (3) 33% Shuttle (1) 11% Minus)Crack (0) 0% 9 total votes Your vote: First to Advance? (Vote): Sea (Vote): Shuttle (Vote): Modesty (Vote): Minus)Crack
Poll: Second to Advance?Modesty (6) 60% Sea (3) 30% Shuttle (1) 10% Minus)Crack (0) 0% 10 total votes Your vote: Second to Advance? (Vote): Sea (Vote): Shuttle (Vote): Modesty (Vote): Minus)Crack
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The Broodwar just keeps coming.
I'd like Moderrsty to meet Sea at some point. That should give us a really good game.It would also be good to see Sea do well again.
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Sea/modesty almost certainly. Outside chance of shuttle getting out as a number two.
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shuttle isnt really a fan favourite with his playstyle but he is sea's eternal nemesis with an exact 50-50 winrate in 44 GAMES against him since the start of post kespa era. and this is back when sea is in a much better form than now.
and shuttle's calibre ,though not the greatest, is certainly good enough to match up to the likes of modesty and minus)crack.
so shuttle has a good chance to advance just like sea.
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Bisutopia19027 Posts
Sea and modesty are easy bets here. I hope shuttle can play well regardless.
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Gay I forgot Afreeca only lets you open it once at a time. I'm kind of watching the soocer now. I guess I'll catch the VOD's of this group some other time.
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Are they even playing at the moment?
41s stream is locked and there don't seem to be any viewers.
all the players (including sea) are watching the soccer
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dont tell me they are only going to play after that football match ended -.-
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Asian Cup is a pretty big deal in Korea.
I'm actually pleased by this news. It means I get to watch both.
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The event was pushed back an hour, see calendar.
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O.K Korea are safely through to the final. Time for som 4,1 Starleague
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Shuttle Vs Sea astarted on Circuit Breaker. Watch the Afreeca stream if you can. I'm trying to get snipealot 2 running but I'm not sure it's going to work.
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Shuttle pressing with 2 dragoons but forced back by marines and a tank. Sea starts his natural expansion.
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Shuttle has taken the 3 O'clock. Sea has his natural and is eyeing up the mineral only.
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I don't think we are going to get Snipealot working today. Something has fundementally changed with the way Afreeca is listing it's game streams and Snipealot can't acess them. Sorry.
Shuttle is colonizing The 2 O'clock natural. Sea is just consolidating his current position and probeing with vultures.
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Looks like we should have a good 200 supply push in a little while.
edit: Maybe a bit to early for 200 supply but a big push all the same.
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Sea has a CC to take the 6 O'clock behind his push too.
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My laptop took the inopportune oppertunity to completly crash. I missed the first push.
Sea has expanded right up the left hand side fo the map. Shuttle has taken most of the right but the 3 O'clock has gone. Sea has a huge army of stasised tanks. And a fair few behind that unaffected.
Shuttle GG's.
hmmm, It looked like it might have been worth a watch. but my laptop did me no favours there.
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Sea 1:0
Next game on destination. Shuttle at the top Sea at the bottom.
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Gateway and a Core from Shuttle, Barracks and a Factory from Sea.
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Shuttle taking his natural and chasing Sea's scouting probe down the left side of the map with a goon.
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Sea's natural is online as well now. No reall pressure from either player yet.
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Sea's going for a 2 tank drop behind the natural. He has two vultures waiting to be ferryied over too.
Some probes bite the dust the rest abaddon the work line for now.
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Shuttle losses two goons trying to beat this attack back and there's still one tank left stopping mining. His goons will eventually walk all the way around and kill this attack. But it's done a lot of damage really.
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Shuttle taking the 2 O'clock. but Sea is taking the bottom left back expansion erm 7 O'clock? Maybe 7:30
he has the base above that too the 8 O'clock. He's way in control of this game unless Shuttle does something drastic.
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Leaking more goons for free doesn't help his cause.
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Oh he's going carrier. I should have noticed that earylier. He's so far bheind though. I doubt it will work.
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Shuttle half commits to an engagement but just losses half of his Zealots for nothing.
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Sea siegeing down 2 O'clock base whilst Shuttle tries to sneak around the side and get into the 5 O'clock base. result Shuttle loses a base and a lot of his army.
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Carriers revealed but Sea has tonnes of Goliaths. He's clearly known for a while. This is just going to be a slow death now for Shuttle.
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Storm made the next engagement pretty good for Shuttle. But Sea's just too ahead. Almost any exchange of units is good for Sea now. Slowly grind down Shuttle.
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Shuttle is now attacking the 5 O'clock with carriers and ground forces. I don't see this doing much except again exchanging units he can't afford to lose. Sea's commited enough units to take care of Shuttles Natural and leave enough back home to beat of that attack.
Oh Sea's going straight up into the main. Gateway's are really exploding now.
Shuttle GG's
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We get to see Modesty unleashed against a T I haven't heard of then hopefully an epic Winners game against Sea. Modesty Zv T is normally worth tunning in for.
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Can someone tell the observer he moves damn too fast he causing me headache....he doesnt havr to make 40 apm to watch a game...this is unwatchable
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I'm going to miss the start of this game as I have to go and do something. back in ten mins or so.
Circuit Breaker Modesty 11 O'clock Minus 1 O'clock.
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Japan11285 Posts
On January 26 2015 20:51 Probemicro wrote: sea finally wins :D It is online
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Wow, this is busy. 3 base Modesty Vs two base Minus.
very effective drop in Modestys main. Lurkers and orange stuff all over Minus' natural.
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Minus has now killed Modesty's 3rd with anouther great drop. Minus main base is reall been assulted by Lurkers though.
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It's not enough though his main is full of spines and fire. Minus GG's
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9 pool vs 12 ebay
should be exciting
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Game 2 on Destination. Modesty at the top Minus down the other end.
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Minus walls in and Modesty takes his natural and invest in a Lair and Spire.
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Modesty has taken the contingency measure of building a sunken to protect his natural. Minus coming forth with a few vultures and crucially Modesty blocks his ramp with lings and drones to stop the Vultures getting in.
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Minus is going to try and take his Natural now he has about 5 maybe 6 Goliaths to protect this and guard the rest of his base as well.
Modesty has a little poke around with his Mutas but seems to decide it's to well protected. He's getting his thir up aswell at the 2 O'clock.
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Interesting
Modesty seems pretty intent on going full muta into full goliath.
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A hydra den from Modesty and taking the back 1 O'clock expansion.
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Modesty snipes the upgrading armory not sure if it was armor or weapons
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Goliaths are not packing enough punch to stop the mutas from picking off key structures here and there
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He's built quite a spwarl of mutas and goes in taking the 2 turrets behind the Main mineral line. Notecing Minus is slow to bring his mech back to defend Modesty takes the oppertunity to try and snipe a Armoury and he gets it.
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Modesty with 3 controls groups of mutas
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well, that was an unusual ZvT
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He attacks the Natural next and this is starting to force Minus to split his Goliaths up to try and cover both basses.
Modesty had really invested in Mutas and over powers the now split defenses at the natural. There's too many Muta's now and not enough things shooting missiles back.
Minus excepts defeat. I'm not sure if he saw the Hydra den and expected Modesty to move away from Muta tech or whether he was just pulled around to much by Modesty's attacks. GG.
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Sea Vs Modesty on Fighting Spirit.
Modesty 7:30 (bottom left), Sea half past four (bottom right)
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Natural expnasion and lair from Modesty.
2 Barracks' and an expansion from Sea.
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Modesty adding a Spire and two sunkens. The sunkens are one behind each other rather than in a line.
adding anouther two sunkens one of which is forward because there was larva blocking where he wanted to put it.
Oh he cancelled the wonky sunken and built a evolution chamber across the top of the sunken line. useful against Zealots. Not so much marines.
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Anyway Sea didn't commit to an attack and has gone home to defend his basses against the incoming Mutas.
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Modesty pokes around again. Doesn't want to commit to much.
second group of marines move out with the first now.
the focus of their attention will be Modsty's new base at 10 O'clock main.
The marines intercept the 2 hydras sent up probablly to block the ramp ass lurker eggs. But Modesty takes care of the medic marine group with his mutas and lings.
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Anouther push coming out from Sea with 2 tanks this time. he has a dropship of marines to run destraction.
they drop behind the natural line causeing a few drones to explode and the rest to run for cover. Sea then picks them up and takes them into the main and forces Modesty to bring defenses back to deal with that whilst Sea attacks the front with the rest of his push.
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drop cleaned up defiliers out. Modesty should be O.K.
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I like how modesty builds just a couple of guardians to defend against the soft sieges but doesnt go overboard
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Sea sends a group of marines to attack Modesty's third base but they are slaughtered from the underground spines, lings mele and from above by a small group of Guardians too. There was orange mist around too. they had no chance.
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Sea going for 3 expansions at the same time, I wonder if modesty can punish him for his greed
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Sea has th 6 O'clock and Modesty is moving out into the 10 O'clock natural.
A few vulture and ling skirmishes.
ANouther nice drop behind Modesty's natural mineral line forces the withdrawal of mining opperations for a while.
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Cow timing window coming out now
Sea doesn't have that many tanks/vessels to deal with it because of all the expansions
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Indeed Sea has taken 3 O'clock and tyring to claim the top right in his name too. Modesty is taking the 9 O'clock. But he can't let Sea get up to 5 basses.
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Sea forcing that 9 O'clock to cancel. Modesty can't let the current situation last for long he's down a base against T.
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Humm don't like Modesty's chances in this game now,
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A nice lurker drop behind the 3 O'clock cancles mining. But that won't be enough on it's wn to swing the game. There's plenty of other Terran basses for the SCV's to mine at.
The cows are out and been loadded into Overlords.
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Ling, Ultra drop into the 1 O'clock main. Defillers putting up their orange mist too. But it's simply not doing enough damage.
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Sea has spread himself really wide however, and the mech is not fast enough to respond properly to the zerg swarm.
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Modesty has the 9 O'clock back up. But hasn't done enough damage or traded his units efficiently. Sea is splitting the map and Modesty is having a hard time doing anything about it.
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On January 26 2015 21:48 ShloobeR wrote: Sea has spread himself really wide however, and the mech is not fast enough to respond properly to the zerg swarm.
This is true. Modesty needs to do some damage soon though.
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Well I thought Modesty was in trouble but he's just styling on Sea now
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Modesty is shutting down mining at the 3 O'Clock. But the base can lift it will only temporary. But moving to defend it might weaken Sea's defenses elsewhere.
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Did Sea let that 3 O'clock CC die to Ultra's? He had loads of time to lift it. Multi-tasking fail.
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I don't know what happended there was building remains there and now he has a CC up and mining again. I think it floated down from the 1 O'clock main since that ones gone now.
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now sea has consolidated forces at his two remaining mining bases Modesty won't be able to break through for a while, Sea is stabilized
Modesty now just needs to make sure that Sea doesn't take the Top-Right
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Modesty has denined Sea from taking the 1 O'clock main and natural and forced him to retreat from the area. Sea still has 4 basses and Modesty has taken the left hand side of the map.
Whilst I was typing that I heard a whole load of drones die to Vultures.
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Sorry for asking "stupid" question but don't want to read thread to get totally spoiled.
Is this Winner's match or Final BO3?
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Sea is trying to take the 1 O'clock natural again. This is probablly going to be the focus point for the next few minutes.
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Owch!
Late swarm by modesty means 3 defilers are sniped by vultures. He's losing his grip
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On January 26 2015 21:54 Boundz(DarKo) wrote: Sorry for asking "stupid" question but don't want to read thread to get totally spoiled.
Is this Winner's match or Final BO3? Winners match. That's not a stupid question. if you don't know you don't know.
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Thanks boys! Atleast one BO3 wasn't missed live
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Modesty busts the remade 1o clock expansion again
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Sea is not able to hold the 1 O'clock base. This might be the cruical point of the match. The CC is O.K (well a mild fire but that's normal hey) but it's spending more time in the air than on the ground. Ulra ling defiller raiding partys seem to be able to come and go as they pleasse.
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Modesty probably needs one more clean fight at 1 o clock to win after that Sea will probably not be able to re-macro
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uh oh
modesty NEEDS to bust 1oclock or he will lose
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Sea going aggressive, pushing to siege 12,
this is very back and forth but if modesty doesn't bust 1oclock he can't win
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Glad to see Sea on fire!
Edit: And there's the tankwall of death into gg!
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Modesty makes the in my opioion odd decision to attack further South at the main entrance to Sea's orginal natural. His forces get slaughtered by a huge minefiled and tank shelling. This gives Sea the chance to get the 1 O'clock up and mining again and has possibly handed Sea the initiative.
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Croatia9359 Posts
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Yeh that attack on the minefield in the south really gave sea breathing room
very weird decision
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Sea been able to take the top basses and divide the map and Modesty having little left to do much about it seem to have decided the game. Modesty taps out. GG.
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Japan11285 Posts
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On January 26 2015 09:34 Greg_J wrote: I'd like Moderrsty to meet Sea at some point. That should give us a really gooId game. Thanks for not disappointing again Broodwar!
My spelling is awesome sometimes. There shouldn't be one 'r' in Modesty I managed to get two in.
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Minus Vs Shuttle on Fightng Spirit. Winner gets to play a best of 3 with Modesty.
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Gateway, Core from Shuttle, Barracks factory from Minus.
Minus has built anouther one of thoose diagonal walls that can't possibly be tight but some how is.
Natural Nexus warping in for Shuttle.
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Minus is filling a dropship up with vultures. This will be out first reall action. The vultures get I think only one probe and force a few mine hits on to some of the dragoons. But no really serious damage. Minus also would have seen that Shuttle has a shuttle waiting for a reaver too.
Minus has sent out a tank push and is beeding in with bunkers and turrets in range of Shuttles Natural Nexus. Only good reaver micro will get Shuttle out of this.
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Minus is the clan not the nick -.-
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Shuttle fails to break out losing his shuttle and the reaver and damageing or losing most of his goons. There's a Wraith in Minus' attack taht really helped. I don't see Shuttle getting out of this tight spot.
nexus has gone down now and Minus already has his Natural up.
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On January 26 2015 22:13 Probemicro wrote: Minus is the clan not the nick -.- Oh right. My bad.
His I.D is Crack then?
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SHuttle did clear up that contain. But I think he lost to much and feel to far behind in doing so. He's playing on for now though.
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I might just call him Minki since that sounds cute and I don't really want to call him Crack. I guess there's nothing wrong with Crack. it's better than calling someone Backhoe.
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Right anyway. The game.
Shuttle has fast expanded to the 12 O'clock and Crack/Minki is still trying to hurass by dropping vultures in here and there. He's expanding to the 6 O'clock himself.
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Shuttle doesn't look as dead as he did 2 mins ago.
He's trying to take the 9 O'clock as well. Mean while Crack/Minki has the problem of now been a good time to attack the Protoss but not really been ready to do so. But siiting there macroing and allowing Shuttle to take 2 basses uncontested is allowing Shuttle back into the game.
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Shuttle kills 7 SCV's at Minki's natural and the HT's have time to morph and take out a vulture too. Minki's not responding very quickly.
More drops this time some Zealot's are with the HT's keep Minki's Natural out of action for anouther few precious 10's of seconds.
Now the reaver's joining the fun.
How is Shuttle able to be the one been agresive whilst he double expands and then expands again, LOL
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Shuttle has taken the 1 O'clock main making it 5 base against 3. He's more than just back in this game now.
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Minki is attacking that new 1 O'clock expansion and Shuttle seems to be chosing to engage in the middle rather than go back and defend it>
Note: it can't be that new since there's about 6 gateways there too. I'm just slow and unobservent.
Shuttle kills most of the attack with Dt's but there's still to many Vultrues there he's going to lose that base and gateway production.
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In the mean time Shuttle has the 7 O'clock main as a replacement the entire length of the map away.
But with Mingi taking the 3 O'clock base. I'd put Mingi still just ahead, maybe.
Storm drop kills 4 SCV's at the 3 O'clock. really good reaction time from Minki because there where a lot of SCV's there to lose.
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Mingi's army has now completed it's march the entire length of the map from top right to bottom left and is going to swing around and move up into the 9 O'clock base.
But Shuttle iss attacking the 3 O'clock and it's to far for Mingi to go back and defend it.
Mingi has lost the 3 O'clock.
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Mingi has split his forces and is trying to take care of Shuttle's 9 O'clock and the bottom left main. He's taking a lot of storm damage but clears the 9 O'clock out. Mingi is down to just mining from the 6 O'clock and there's not that many minerals left there. He took care of Shuttles 9 O'clock but lost the rest of his army trying to attack into the 7 O'clock main and has precious little rescources to re macro from.
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Shuttle is just rebuilding the 9 O'clock now Mingi's army is dead and he's going to be able to rebuild a bigger better army than Mingi. i think Shuttles going to take this now.
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Saying that Mingi has got his 3 O'clock base up now. but his army is much smaller and more vulnerable and much less able to protect what he has left.
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Shuttle is taking the 1 O'clock main again too. by the time Mingi has a big enough army to move and shut down one of Shuttles basses he simply won't have the time to move to basses on the oppersite points on the map and shut Shuttle down. That's if he manages to build an army strong enough to take on what Shuttle has anyway. Shuttle is just pulling to far ahead in the macroing game.
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Croatia9359 Posts
Shuttle's just playing with him at this point..
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Croatia9359 Posts
I mean lol, he's doing storm drops with hallucinated shuttles
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I think the 6 O'clock is mined out for Mingi. So he is bascially just mining from the 3 O'clock. thats where he is concentrating his army and will elad him to be able to attack the 1 O'clock base reaosnablly safely. But he will never be able to get acorss to the 7 O'clock main.
Shuttle storms almost all of Mingi's SCV's at that 3 O'clock and I think Mingi knows the game is up now.
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Indeed. Shuttle did really well to come back from that start. He was down on his knees and Mingi just let him double expand back into the game for free. I bet someone like HiyA would have sent a small task force to punish Shuttle in a similar situation.
GG though fun game in the end.
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kind of a shame I'd like to see both of these guys make the Ro8 but since there is a chronic zerg shortage...
let's go Modesty
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Looks like I've missed a fair bit off the start of this game. we have 3 base Modesty bottom right and the third in the natural of the 2 O'clock base. He's just adding the main nwo to make it 4 base. vs 2 base Shuttle.
Now it's time for one of the best parts of Broodwar Scouge vs Corsair micro.
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Oh there's DT's on the map. there was probablly some early game denial of DT's by Modesty. Corsairs pooking around looking for unguarded Overlords.
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Shuttle now taking his third at the 9 O'clock position. My stomach says it's lunch time.
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Modesty was adding quite a few hatcheries at the 1 O'clock main and there's a probe of Shuttles considering taking the mineral only.
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that mineral only is shut down almost straight away by a group of restless zerglings.
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Shuttle poking into the natural at the 1 )'clock. but he's trying to come down from the North and it's quite a tight choke point. The lurkers and lings are able to hold Shuttle off for now.
Shuttles having anouther go and forced his way out of the choke and to attack the Natural across a wider front of engement.
Menwhile Modesty is shutting down Shuttle 9 O'clock.
Shuttles losing his army at the 1 O'clock natural not doing any damage and has lost his third base at the 9 O'clock.
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Shuttle has at least got the mineral only back up again and covered it in cannons.
a large force of zealots has gone back to the 1 O'clock natural and caught Modesty's Lurkers moorghing un protected. unfortunatelly for shuttle he's only able to kill one lurker egg before they finish morghing ( a couple of storms could have done some real damage there).
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Shuttle trys a HT drop in the main of the 1 O'clock base and I think he only got 1 drone. Shuttle is also taking the 12 O'clock base and Modesty has notcied straight away and tried a relatively ineffective attack using lurkers and lings. But he has defillers now and will keep the pressure up on that base.
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Modesty is taking is mineral only and the attack on the 12 O'clock seems to be swinging his way. Lurkers under Orange stuff are pretty effective.
Shuttle GG's.
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Round 2: Destination Modesty will be swinging from the top and Shuttle trying to work his way up from the bottom.
the production and consumption of toast will limit my typing APM for a while.
Modesty has 3 bases up and Shuttle is up to two himself. Pretty standard.
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DT's again. Modesty looks prepared. After that expect Mutas.
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lots of poking from both players with corsairs and zealots and Mutas from Modesty. Pilled his scouge into the Corsair fleet and I don't think he got one.
Modetsy is taking his back expansion and Shuttle is getting his 8 O'clock going third going.
More muta hurass, get's a Dragoon and forces the waste of a storm. No real damage.
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Modesty snipes a HT but losses a lot of muta's or at least takes a lot of damage on his muta's from the Corsairs in doing so.
Shuttle taking his back expansion and Modesty taking the 4 O'clock base that's quite close to Shuttle but on high ground with a narrow choke up to it. Shuttle is trying to force his way up that choke with a big Dragoon army but Hydras hold the high ground. Shuttle trying to scare the Hydras off with storm. But Modesty is holding it for now.
Shuttle now taking the 5 O'clock imediately below that base. Seems like this will be a likely focus point for action in the coming minutes.
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Wow, that was a killer hydralisk pincer by Modesty
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Those basses going up make it 5 base Vs 5 base. Destination isn't good for a Zerg with no air control and the same number of basses as the Protoss.
modesty knowing he has to do something is attacking Shuttles army in the center with waves of Hydras. Modesty did a great job of spreading his hydras out and surrounding the Protoss army from all sides. Shuttle losing his army is cruical for the balance fo the game. But Modesty has to make it count and shut down some basses.
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Modesty seems content to hols position locking Shuttle into the bottom 5 bases and expand into the left side of the map.
Scratch that he's attacking the * O'clock base from the ground and the air with hydra's falling from the gas bags. That attack was pretty costly for Modesty and the base stayed up.
Now Modesty is sniping Shuttles reinforcement HT's with his reinforcement Hydras whilst Shuttle shuts down Modesty's new 11 O'clock base on the left side of the map with a crack team of Zealot's specially selected for the job.
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A minute ago Shuttle was kind of forced into the bottom 5 bases whilst Modesty held map position and expanded across the rest of the map. With that costly attack at the 11 O'clock Modesty lost his ground control and himself is now been forced up into the top 5 basses.
It's worse than that he's not going to hold.
GG from Modesty. That game seemed to hang on a knife edge.
We get one more game from these two to see who's going to the knock out stages.
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I did myself imply he needed to be doing something needed to attack and shut down a base. But it almost feels like that attack on the 11 O'clock lost him the game and maybe he could have just held the map control and expanded himself.
Anyway Modesty Vs Shuttle best of 1, Fighting Spirit.
Modesty is in the bottom left 8 O'clock main whilst Shuttle spawns above him in the top left 11 O'clock main
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Looks like forge expand Vs some kind of fast but safe expansion with a pool and a hatchery from modesty. Now taking a third hatchery at the 6 O'clock.
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I spent 4 hours watching SSL then slept woke up and have been watching about 4 hours of the 41 Starleague. There's almost too much Broodwar.
No, I take it back there's never too much Broodwar.
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Dt's again from Shuttle and again Modesty is prepared. This time SHuttle sneaks a couple of drone kills of the gas at the 6 O'clock. But perhaps the DT's are more for early map control more than anything else. Shuttle has 6 gateways and has produced a fair speedlot Zealot mod. Modesty would have been in trouble if he tried to be greedy and take a quick fourth. But unluckily for Shuttle he didn't and now Modesty will chase hima way with hydras and lurkers.
The chase has gone all the way to shuttles natural where the hydras make quick work of the forge and gateway. But lose many of their brethren in violent storms.
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Shuttle is now forcing his way out of the light contain., I'm suprissed Modesty is retreating so far though he's allowing Shuttle to advance over the birdgesunopposed. But maybe he know she doesn't have enough to hold him there.
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aaand another zerg falls
what is up with this
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Suttle has marched right across the map and it is piling the pressure on modesty's natural.
Modesty loses far to many hydras to storm. It was going to be tight to defend that attack before the storms.
He doesn't have enough to hold
Modesty GG's
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Nice comeback. Some solid games today!
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We have 3 Zerg's left in this league comparred with the other leagues that's a veritable army of them.
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Everyone underestimated shuttle once again
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United States2948 Posts
Thanks for all the updates!
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I want to watch that Sea Vs Modesty game again. But it's not been uploaded yet TT
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