• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 14:32
CET 19:32
KST 03:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains10Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18BSL Season 224Vitality ends partnership with ONSYDE20
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list? Terran AddOns placement Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains GSL CK - New online series
Tourneys
[GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO WardiTV Team League Season 10 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Gypsy to Korea Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 BWCL Season 64 Announcement
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2077 users

Shinhan Tank Proleague 14-15 - Preseason Week 2 - Page 3

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
dr.shrinker
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway369 Posts
August 13 2014 21:26 GMT
#41
You're trying too hard.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
August 13 2014 22:03 GMT
#42
On August 14 2014 06:26 dr.shrinker wrote:
You're trying too hard.


There is no such thing as trying to hard my friend. If you're not going to go at something 100% then there's no point starting in the first place :>
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
August 13 2014 22:08 GMT
#43
I don't know whether or not I will cast in this league but I want to add to this list.

+ Show Spoiler +

1. Fuck quantifying extremely negligible things like "and it looks like two dragoons just wandered off and died to 3 seige tanks!" in the midst of an intense dynamic late game. Not only is the fact that a few dragoons died late game completely meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but also naming the number of units involved is usually an absolutely benign fact. Maybe it is worth stating "drop-ship goes down to like 8 scourge" but something such as: "1 lurker dies to 7 marines!" (in a late game scenario) as if there is something notable about the fact that a single zerg lurker died to a number of marines that just happened to be 7 is absolutely pointless. Worse is when someone counts the exact number of turrets or cannons being build in late game (unless this number is out of the ordinary or actually note-able for some reason rule of thumb reason).

2. The phrase "goes down" should not be used to describe every thing that can happen in a game of Starcraft. This generally includes but is not limited to: units/buildings being destroyed, buildings being built, players or strategies being defeated , or the onset of an attack or strategy.

3. Please dear god don't literally make up facts about a strategy you don't understand. Please do not judge a strategy as good or bad when you do not understand it. Also avoid watching a game, assigning no bias to either player, and then once you see a player start to lose immediately backwards rationalizing the game as one player doing a shitty build order. Also avoid making intense illogical presumptions about players strategies from the get go to avoid this and then being "suprised" when the game plays out differently (much more prevalent in sc2 commentators or people wishing they were day[9]). If you find yourself doing this it means you are trying to cover up for lack of game knowledge.

4. Avoid mimicking the vocal tonality of Day[9] (especially common when explaining strategy), Artosis, Sayle, or any other known commentator. Don't steal Sayles catch phrases and inside jokes.

5. Passion with out substance = talk radio.

6. If a joke has been said before by another human being that does not mean that it is good to be used, it means that it does not need to be repeated again unless it is some how relevant. If it is repeated some credit should be given to its originator.

7. Saying something along the lines of: "Puppykiller is moving his vultures in to pick off probes even though there are a lot of dragoons in the natural of Kiante and with this Puppykiller is saying: 'I know I am going to be losing vultures here bro, but your gonna be losing a lot more probes and to me that's a trade I am willing to take.'" Bitch... You don't know shit about what I am thinking let alone a player who is actually good like Sziky. While it is OK to talk about what is going on from an objective standpoint, the next commentator who tries to add narrative to the game from my perspective and puts words in my mouth is getting fucking grudge-matched, even if what they are saying isn't strategically incorrect.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 13 2014 22:41 GMT
#44
+ Show Spoiler [Banana pancakes] +

On August 14 2014 07:08 puppykiller wrote:
I don't know whether or not I will cast in this league but I want to add to this list.

2. The phrase "goes down" should not be used to describe every thing that can happen in a game of Starcraft. This generally includes but is not limited to: units/buildings being destroyed, buildings being built, players or strategies being defeated , or the onset of an attack or strategy.

3. Please dear god don't literally make up facts about a strategy you don't understand. Please do not judge a strategy as good or bad when you do not understand it. Also avoid watching a game, assigning no bias to either player, and then once you see a player start to lose immediately backwards rationalizing the game as one player doing a shitty build order. Also avoid making intense illogical presumptions about players strategies from the get go to avoid this and then being "suprised" when the game plays out differently (much more prevalent in sc2 commentators or people wishing they were day[9]). If you find yourself doing this it means you are trying to cover up for lack of game knowledge.


If someone says something is "Going Down", they just have to sing the entire song. As long as they do that, they can say stuff is going down left and right all willy-nilly.

As for your third point, I generally agree but there are certain situations where one player will put themselves into a good position to win and not realize it because they are being dumb. For example, recently, I observed this one PvT where the Protoss guy kinda sucked. He went for a 1-base reaver build, and had a proxy robotics facility. So far, so good. Then, without doing ANY damage (The reaver killed absolutely nothing), the Protoss guy flew his shuttle right into a turret and lost it. The bad part for the Protoss guy was that he also double expanded, meaning he had almost no units, and the Terran player was on four factories. I was practically pleading with the Terran player to just fucking win the game, but instead, he just kind of inched his way to the front of his natural, and started making a CC inside of his main to slow-float it over to his third while he cautiously made his way over there. The whole situation made me die a little bit inside because the Protoss was able to build up a third-base economy without opposition and warped in a whole shitpile of gateways, so by the time the Terran player finally decided to push out, his army got overwhelmed, and the Protoss was miles ahead after that.

I think in a situation like that, I could say that the Terran player will almost certainly win, but instead I had to facepalm because he LITERALLY took a spiked dildo and fucked himself in the butt. That's when I'm forced to backtrack; some idiot gets an opportunity and then blows it like a cheap hooker.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 23:24:26
August 13 2014 23:19 GMT
#45
Just reading that story brought tears to my eye. I will say a prayer for the terran, that he might some day learn to punish the evil doings of space aliens.

He was probably trying to do "the flash build". I've heard that some sneaky protoss fake terran accounts on teamliquid and tell terrans that they need to do "the flash build" or "the stylish 5 fact" over and over again to learn how to place terran structures aligned with numbers. Apperntly learning a very rigid and fragile build order takes preference to learning to scout or adapt. /rant
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
August 14 2014 00:15 GMT
#46
So over the course of about 7 hours I achieved this. Well this is just a preview but it's to give you an idea of how it should look on stream.

team stats screen.
[image loading]

week map screen
[image loading]

set map screen
[image loading]

ingame overlay.
[image loading]

I'm hoping to do the first cast in a few days and I'll announce the next weeks matchups on it (still preseason, everyone needs to get used to how it works).
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 14 2014 01:16 GMT
#47
I wish I had anytime at all to play in this. After Aug 31st I'll have time, but by then maybe it's too late? If not can a captain still get a hold of me to play?
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
August 14 2014 02:26 GMT
#48
Is it too late to sign up? Somehow I missed this thread but seems like amazing fun and I'd love to participate!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
August 14 2014 08:58 GMT
#49
On August 14 2014 10:16 tonight wrote:
I wish I had anytime at all to play in this. After Aug 31st I'll have time, but by then maybe it's too late? If not can a captain still get a hold of me to play?


On August 14 2014 11:26 Salazarz wrote:
Is it too late to sign up? Somehow I missed this thread but seems like amazing fun and I'd love to participate!


Well due to inactivity and just trying to get everyone to get used to the organisation we'll probably not be starting until september, just pre season games until then so if you want to join a team just PM me what you want and I'll get the captain to talk to you both :>
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 19:53:12
August 15 2014 19:52 GMT
#50
Set 1: Neo Medusa
Set 2: Colosseum II
Set 3: Neo Aztec
Set 4: Neo Electric Circuit
Set 5: Polaris Rhapsody
These the map order for this week?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 16:03:09
August 16 2014 12:35 GMT
#51
Those are indeed the maps for the second week of preseason.

In other news, the first cast is penciled in for this evening (for europe) and this afternoon for the americas. You'll be able to find us at hitbox.tv/Qikz at 21:10 GMT (+00:00). I've put a lot of effort in to making all the graphics and gathering all the stuff I need, so hopefully you'll enjoy and like them as much as I have done making them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2014/08/#event_23528
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 16 2014 13:55 GMT
#52
Nice overlays Are those heavily based on the original or is it just a variation on the theme?
En Taro Violet
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
August 16 2014 17:17 GMT
#53
On August 16 2014 22:55 Stratos wrote:
Nice overlays Are those heavily based on the original or is it just a variation on the theme?

Heavily based on the original, but because I'm not all that great at designing graphics especially not working with colours I had to go with a different colour scheme and take some creative liberties.

The layout is pretty much all exactly the same, just with an extra screen that proleague never used so I've got something to show while I'm trying to fix everything behind it. This is either going to go really well or be a complete disaster from my perspective haha. I've got so much on the stream UI to constantly chop and change.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
MinscandBoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
252 Posts
August 16 2014 20:54 GMT
#54
Cast starting in ~ 15 minutes! super excited =) hope to see you guys there
Swords! Not words!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 22:41:34
August 16 2014 20:54 GMT
#55

[image loading]
Banner from prototype. Also, if you like truth, click the banner. (Relevant back in 2011!)




2014-2015 Shinhan Tank Fantasy ProLeague Pre-Season Week 1 Game 1
Day August 16th 2014 Date 21:10 GMT (+00:00)





[image loading]SK Telecom T1 vs [image loading]Woongjin Stars
<<Colosseum II>>
<<Neo Aztec>>
<<Neo Electric Circuit>>
<<Polaris Rhapsody>>
<<Fighting Spirit>>




LINEUPS

+ Show Spoiler +
(T)BoxeR <<Colosseum II>> (Z)Soulkey
(P)BeSt<<Neo Aztec>> (P)BisAnG
(T)FanTaSy <<Neo Electric Circuit>> (Z)Woon]
(T)Midas <<Polaris Rhapsody>> (T)Really
(T)sSak <<Fighting Spirit>> (P)free





RESULTS

+ Show Spoiler +

(T)BoxeR <<Colosseum II>> (Z)Soulkey
(P)BeSt<<Neo Aztec>> (P)BisAnG
(T)FanTaSy <<Neo Electric Circuit>> (Z)Woon
(T)Midas <<Polaris Rhapsody>> (T)[b]Really[/b]
(T)sSak <<Fighting Spirit>> (P)free





RECOMMENDED GAMES
+ Show Spoiler +





STREAM
http://hitbox.tv/qikz
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11439 Posts
August 16 2014 21:01 GMT
#56
SKT T1 Fighting!
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 16 2014 21:33 GMT
#57
Looking good so far!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 21:38:31
August 16 2014 21:37 GMT
#58
Someone tell Quikz to attach his stream to the event here: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/mystream.php
Select it as Live Event and save the stream info. Then switch back to No Event.

- nvm ninja'd
En Taro Violet
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 16 2014 22:33 GMT
#59
sick production, really awesome. Where can I donate money?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 23:00:11
August 16 2014 22:34 GMT
#60

[image loading]



2014-2015 Shinhan Tank Fantasy ProLeague Pre-Season Day 2
Day August 10th 2014 Date 09:00 GMT (+00:00)

(time is variable, PPs accepted up to a week after game date so don't worry about the time)




[image loading]CJ Entus vs. [image loading]Air Force ACE
<<Colosseum II>>
<<Neo Aztec>>
<<Neo Electric Circuit>>
<<Polaris Rhapsody>>
<<Fighting Spirit>>




LINEUPS

+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)Kwanro <<Colosseum II>> (P)Rock
(Z)herO[jOin] <<Neo Aztec>> (P)Reach
(T)Leta <<Neo Electric Circuit>> (T)XellOs
(T)sKyHigh<<Polaris Rhapsody>> (Z)YellOw
(P)Snow <<Fighting Spirit>> (P)fOru






RESULTS

+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)Kwanro <<Colosseum II>> (P)Rock
(Z)herO[jOin] <<Neo Aztec>> (P)Reach
(T)Leta <<Neo Electric Circuit>> (T)XellOs
(T)sKyHigh<<Polaris Rhapsody>> (Z)YellOw
(P)Snow <<Fighting Spirit>> (P)fOru






RECOMMENDED GAMES
+ Show Spoiler +




STREAM
If you want to stream the games when they've been played, please do send me a PM!



Once again, sorry for the double post!
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 141
elazer 121
JuggernautJason72
Livibee 69
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31830
Mini 951
EffOrt 615
BeSt 307
firebathero 227
Dewaltoss 97
actioN 81
Bale 31
scan(afreeca) 23
Rock 23
[ Show more ]
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
NaDa 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6742
qojqva2011
Counter-Strike
byalli418
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor98
MindelVK11
Other Games
Grubby1870
FrodaN1124
Beastyqt631
ToD190
KnowMe124
ArmadaUGS117
C9.Mang0104
Trikslyr56
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream19630
Other Games
gamesdonequick1384
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 76
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota230
League of Legends
• TFBlade1045
• Shiphtur315
Other Games
• imaqtpie745
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 28m
Replay Cast
1d 5h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 15h
RSL Revival
1d 15h
WardiTV Team League
1d 17h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 22h
Patches Events
1d 22h
BSL
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
2 days
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
GSL
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-11
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.