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dr.shrinker
Profile Joined June 2009
Norway369 Posts
August 13 2014 21:26 GMT
#41
You're trying too hard.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
August 13 2014 22:03 GMT
#42
On August 14 2014 06:26 dr.shrinker wrote:
You're trying too hard.


There is no such thing as trying to hard my friend. If you're not going to go at something 100% then there's no point starting in the first place :>
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
August 13 2014 22:08 GMT
#43
I don't know whether or not I will cast in this league but I want to add to this list.

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1. Fuck quantifying extremely negligible things like "and it looks like two dragoons just wandered off and died to 3 seige tanks!" in the midst of an intense dynamic late game. Not only is the fact that a few dragoons died late game completely meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but also naming the number of units involved is usually an absolutely benign fact. Maybe it is worth stating "drop-ship goes down to like 8 scourge" but something such as: "1 lurker dies to 7 marines!" (in a late game scenario) as if there is something notable about the fact that a single zerg lurker died to a number of marines that just happened to be 7 is absolutely pointless. Worse is when someone counts the exact number of turrets or cannons being build in late game (unless this number is out of the ordinary or actually note-able for some reason rule of thumb reason).

2. The phrase "goes down" should not be used to describe every thing that can happen in a game of Starcraft. This generally includes but is not limited to: units/buildings being destroyed, buildings being built, players or strategies being defeated , or the onset of an attack or strategy.

3. Please dear god don't literally make up facts about a strategy you don't understand. Please do not judge a strategy as good or bad when you do not understand it. Also avoid watching a game, assigning no bias to either player, and then once you see a player start to lose immediately backwards rationalizing the game as one player doing a shitty build order. Also avoid making intense illogical presumptions about players strategies from the get go to avoid this and then being "suprised" when the game plays out differently (much more prevalent in sc2 commentators or people wishing they were day[9]). If you find yourself doing this it means you are trying to cover up for lack of game knowledge.

4. Avoid mimicking the vocal tonality of Day[9] (especially common when explaining strategy), Artosis, Sayle, or any other known commentator. Don't steal Sayles catch phrases and inside jokes.

5. Passion with out substance = talk radio.

6. If a joke has been said before by another human being that does not mean that it is good to be used, it means that it does not need to be repeated again unless it is some how relevant. If it is repeated some credit should be given to its originator.

7. Saying something along the lines of: "Puppykiller is moving his vultures in to pick off probes even though there are a lot of dragoons in the natural of Kiante and with this Puppykiller is saying: 'I know I am going to be losing vultures here bro, but your gonna be losing a lot more probes and to me that's a trade I am willing to take.'" Bitch... You don't know shit about what I am thinking let alone a player who is actually good like Sziky. While it is OK to talk about what is going on from an objective standpoint, the next commentator who tries to add narrative to the game from my perspective and puts words in my mouth is getting fucking grudge-matched, even if what they are saying isn't strategically incorrect.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 13 2014 22:41 GMT
#44
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On August 14 2014 07:08 puppykiller wrote:
I don't know whether or not I will cast in this league but I want to add to this list.

2. The phrase "goes down" should not be used to describe every thing that can happen in a game of Starcraft. This generally includes but is not limited to: units/buildings being destroyed, buildings being built, players or strategies being defeated , or the onset of an attack or strategy.

3. Please dear god don't literally make up facts about a strategy you don't understand. Please do not judge a strategy as good or bad when you do not understand it. Also avoid watching a game, assigning no bias to either player, and then once you see a player start to lose immediately backwards rationalizing the game as one player doing a shitty build order. Also avoid making intense illogical presumptions about players strategies from the get go to avoid this and then being "suprised" when the game plays out differently (much more prevalent in sc2 commentators or people wishing they were day[9]). If you find yourself doing this it means you are trying to cover up for lack of game knowledge.


If someone says something is "Going Down", they just have to sing the entire song. As long as they do that, they can say stuff is going down left and right all willy-nilly.

As for your third point, I generally agree but there are certain situations where one player will put themselves into a good position to win and not realize it because they are being dumb. For example, recently, I observed this one PvT where the Protoss guy kinda sucked. He went for a 1-base reaver build, and had a proxy robotics facility. So far, so good. Then, without doing ANY damage (The reaver killed absolutely nothing), the Protoss guy flew his shuttle right into a turret and lost it. The bad part for the Protoss guy was that he also double expanded, meaning he had almost no units, and the Terran player was on four factories. I was practically pleading with the Terran player to just fucking win the game, but instead, he just kind of inched his way to the front of his natural, and started making a CC inside of his main to slow-float it over to his third while he cautiously made his way over there. The whole situation made me die a little bit inside because the Protoss was able to build up a third-base economy without opposition and warped in a whole shitpile of gateways, so by the time the Terran player finally decided to push out, his army got overwhelmed, and the Protoss was miles ahead after that.

I think in a situation like that, I could say that the Terran player will almost certainly win, but instead I had to facepalm because he LITERALLY took a spiked dildo and fucked himself in the butt. That's when I'm forced to backtrack; some idiot gets an opportunity and then blows it like a cheap hooker.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-13 23:24:26
August 13 2014 23:19 GMT
#45
Just reading that story brought tears to my eye. I will say a prayer for the terran, that he might some day learn to punish the evil doings of space aliens.

He was probably trying to do "the flash build". I've heard that some sneaky protoss fake terran accounts on teamliquid and tell terrans that they need to do "the flash build" or "the stylish 5 fact" over and over again to learn how to place terran structures aligned with numbers. Apperntly learning a very rigid and fragile build order takes preference to learning to scout or adapt. /rant
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
August 14 2014 00:15 GMT
#46
So over the course of about 7 hours I achieved this. Well this is just a preview but it's to give you an idea of how it should look on stream.

team stats screen.
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week map screen
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set map screen
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ingame overlay.
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I'm hoping to do the first cast in a few days and I'll announce the next weeks matchups on it (still preseason, everyone needs to get used to how it works).
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 14 2014 01:16 GMT
#47
I wish I had anytime at all to play in this. After Aug 31st I'll have time, but by then maybe it's too late? If not can a captain still get a hold of me to play?
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
August 14 2014 02:26 GMT
#48
Is it too late to sign up? Somehow I missed this thread but seems like amazing fun and I'd love to participate!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
August 14 2014 08:58 GMT
#49
On August 14 2014 10:16 tonight wrote:
I wish I had anytime at all to play in this. After Aug 31st I'll have time, but by then maybe it's too late? If not can a captain still get a hold of me to play?


On August 14 2014 11:26 Salazarz wrote:
Is it too late to sign up? Somehow I missed this thread but seems like amazing fun and I'd love to participate!


Well due to inactivity and just trying to get everyone to get used to the organisation we'll probably not be starting until september, just pre season games until then so if you want to join a team just PM me what you want and I'll get the captain to talk to you both :>
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-15 19:53:12
August 15 2014 19:52 GMT
#50
Set 1: Neo Medusa
Set 2: Colosseum II
Set 3: Neo Aztec
Set 4: Neo Electric Circuit
Set 5: Polaris Rhapsody
These the map order for this week?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 16:03:09
August 16 2014 12:35 GMT
#51
Those are indeed the maps for the second week of preseason.

In other news, the first cast is penciled in for this evening (for europe) and this afternoon for the americas. You'll be able to find us at hitbox.tv/Qikz at 21:10 GMT (+00:00). I've put a lot of effort in to making all the graphics and gathering all the stuff I need, so hopefully you'll enjoy and like them as much as I have done making them.

http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2014/08/#event_23528
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
August 16 2014 13:55 GMT
#52
Nice overlays Are those heavily based on the original or is it just a variation on the theme?
En Taro Violet
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
August 16 2014 17:17 GMT
#53
On August 16 2014 22:55 Stratos wrote:
Nice overlays Are those heavily based on the original or is it just a variation on the theme?

Heavily based on the original, but because I'm not all that great at designing graphics especially not working with colours I had to go with a different colour scheme and take some creative liberties.

The layout is pretty much all exactly the same, just with an extra screen that proleague never used so I've got something to show while I'm trying to fix everything behind it. This is either going to go really well or be a complete disaster from my perspective haha. I've got so much on the stream UI to constantly chop and change.
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MinscandBoo
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
252 Posts
August 16 2014 20:54 GMT
#54
Cast starting in ~ 15 minutes! super excited =) hope to see you guys there
Swords! Not words!
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 22:41:34
August 16 2014 20:54 GMT
#55

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Banner from prototype. Also, if you like truth, click the banner. (Relevant back in 2011!)




2014-2015 Shinhan Tank Fantasy ProLeague Pre-Season Week 1 Game 1
Day August 16th 2014 Date 21:10 GMT (+00:00)





[image loading]SK Telecom T1 vs [image loading]Woongjin Stars
<<Colosseum II>>
<<Neo Aztec>>
<<Neo Electric Circuit>>
<<Polaris Rhapsody>>
<<Fighting Spirit>>




LINEUPS

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(T)BoxeR <<Colosseum II>> (Z)Soulkey
(P)BeSt<<Neo Aztec>> (P)BisAnG
(T)FanTaSy <<Neo Electric Circuit>> (Z)Woon]
(T)Midas <<Polaris Rhapsody>> (T)Really
(T)sSak <<Fighting Spirit>> (P)free





RESULTS

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(T)BoxeR <<Colosseum II>> (Z)Soulkey
(P)BeSt<<Neo Aztec>> (P)BisAnG
(T)FanTaSy <<Neo Electric Circuit>> (Z)Woon
(T)Midas <<Polaris Rhapsody>> (T)[b]Really[/b]
(T)sSak <<Fighting Spirit>> (P)free





RECOMMENDED GAMES
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STREAM
http://hitbox.tv/qikz
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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
August 16 2014 21:01 GMT
#56
SKT T1 Fighting!
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 16 2014 21:33 GMT
#57
Looking good so far!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 21:38:31
August 16 2014 21:37 GMT
#58
Someone tell Quikz to attach his stream to the event here: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/mystream.php
Select it as Live Event and save the stream info. Then switch back to No Event.

- nvm ninja'd
En Taro Violet
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
August 16 2014 22:33 GMT
#59
sick production, really awesome. Where can I donate money?
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12065 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-16 23:00:11
August 16 2014 22:34 GMT
#60

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2014-2015 Shinhan Tank Fantasy ProLeague Pre-Season Day 2
Day August 10th 2014 Date 09:00 GMT (+00:00)

(time is variable, PPs accepted up to a week after game date so don't worry about the time)




[image loading]CJ Entus vs. [image loading]Air Force ACE
<<Colosseum II>>
<<Neo Aztec>>
<<Neo Electric Circuit>>
<<Polaris Rhapsody>>
<<Fighting Spirit>>




LINEUPS

+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)Kwanro <<Colosseum II>> (P)Rock
(Z)herO[jOin] <<Neo Aztec>> (P)Reach
(T)Leta <<Neo Electric Circuit>> (T)XellOs
(T)sKyHigh<<Polaris Rhapsody>> (Z)YellOw
(P)Snow <<Fighting Spirit>> (P)fOru






RESULTS

+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)Kwanro <<Colosseum II>> (P)Rock
(Z)herO[jOin] <<Neo Aztec>> (P)Reach
(T)Leta <<Neo Electric Circuit>> (T)XellOs
(T)sKyHigh<<Polaris Rhapsody>> (Z)YellOw
(P)Snow <<Fighting Spirit>> (P)fOru






RECOMMENDED GAMES
+ Show Spoiler +




STREAM
If you want to stream the games when they've been played, please do send me a PM!



Once again, sorry for the double post!
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