Shinhan Tank Proleague 14-15 - Preseason Week 2 - Page 3
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dr.shrinker
Norway369 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On August 14 2014 06:26 dr.shrinker wrote: You're trying too hard. There is no such thing as trying to hard my friend. If you're not going to go at something 100% then there's no point starting in the first place :> | ||
puppykiller
United States3126 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + 1. Fuck quantifying extremely negligible things like "and it looks like two dragoons just wandered off and died to 3 seige tanks!" in the midst of an intense dynamic late game. Not only is the fact that a few dragoons died late game completely meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but also naming the number of units involved is usually an absolutely benign fact. Maybe it is worth stating "drop-ship goes down to like 8 scourge" but something such as: "1 lurker dies to 7 marines!" (in a late game scenario) as if there is something notable about the fact that a single zerg lurker died to a number of marines that just happened to be 7 is absolutely pointless. Worse is when someone counts the exact number of turrets or cannons being build in late game (unless this number is out of the ordinary or actually note-able for some reason rule of thumb reason). 2. The phrase "goes down" should not be used to describe every thing that can happen in a game of Starcraft. This generally includes but is not limited to: units/buildings being destroyed, buildings being built, players or strategies being defeated , or the onset of an attack or strategy. 3. Please dear god don't literally make up facts about a strategy you don't understand. Please do not judge a strategy as good or bad when you do not understand it. Also avoid watching a game, assigning no bias to either player, and then once you see a player start to lose immediately backwards rationalizing the game as one player doing a shitty build order. Also avoid making intense illogical presumptions about players strategies from the get go to avoid this and then being "suprised" when the game plays out differently (much more prevalent in sc2 commentators or people wishing they were day[9]). If you find yourself doing this it means you are trying to cover up for lack of game knowledge. 4. Avoid mimicking the vocal tonality of Day[9] (especially common when explaining strategy), Artosis, Sayle, or any other known commentator. Don't steal Sayles catch phrases and inside jokes. 5. Passion with out substance = talk radio. 6. If a joke has been said before by another human being that does not mean that it is good to be used, it means that it does not need to be repeated again unless it is some how relevant. If it is repeated some credit should be given to its originator. 7. Saying something along the lines of: "Puppykiller is moving his vultures in to pick off probes even though there are a lot of dragoons in the natural of Kiante and with this Puppykiller is saying: 'I know I am going to be losing vultures here bro, but your gonna be losing a lot more probes and to me that's a trade I am willing to take.'" Bitch... You don't know shit about what I am thinking let alone a player who is actually good like Sziky. While it is OK to talk about what is going on from an objective standpoint, the next commentator who tries to add narrative to the game from my perspective and puts words in my mouth is getting fucking grudge-matched, even if what they are saying isn't strategically incorrect. | ||
ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
On August 14 2014 07:08 puppykiller wrote: I don't know whether or not I will cast in this league but I want to add to this list. 2. The phrase "goes down" should not be used to describe every thing that can happen in a game of Starcraft. This generally includes but is not limited to: units/buildings being destroyed, buildings being built, players or strategies being defeated , or the onset of an attack or strategy. 3. Please dear god don't literally make up facts about a strategy you don't understand. Please do not judge a strategy as good or bad when you do not understand it. Also avoid watching a game, assigning no bias to either player, and then once you see a player start to lose immediately backwards rationalizing the game as one player doing a shitty build order. Also avoid making intense illogical presumptions about players strategies from the get go to avoid this and then being "suprised" when the game plays out differently (much more prevalent in sc2 commentators or people wishing they were day[9]). If you find yourself doing this it means you are trying to cover up for lack of game knowledge. If someone says something is "Going Down", they just have to sing the entire song. As long as they do that, they can say stuff is going down left and right all willy-nilly. As for your third point, I generally agree but there are certain situations where one player will put themselves into a good position to win and not realize it because they are being dumb. For example, recently, I observed this one PvT where the Protoss guy kinda sucked. He went for a 1-base reaver build, and had a proxy robotics facility. So far, so good. Then, without doing ANY damage (The reaver killed absolutely nothing), the Protoss guy flew his shuttle right into a turret and lost it. The bad part for the Protoss guy was that he also double expanded, meaning he had almost no units, and the Terran player was on four factories. I was practically pleading with the Terran player to just fucking win the game, but instead, he just kind of inched his way to the front of his natural, and started making a CC inside of his main to slow-float it over to his third while he cautiously made his way over there. The whole situation made me die a little bit inside because the Protoss was able to build up a third-base economy without opposition and warped in a whole shitpile of gateways, so by the time the Terran player finally decided to push out, his army got overwhelmed, and the Protoss was miles ahead after that. I think in a situation like that, I could say that the Terran player will almost certainly win, but instead I had to facepalm because he LITERALLY took a spiked dildo and fucked himself in the butt. That's when I'm forced to backtrack; some idiot gets an opportunity and then blows it like a cheap hooker. | ||
puppykiller
United States3126 Posts
He was probably trying to do "the flash build". I've heard that some sneaky protoss fake terran accounts on teamliquid and tell terrans that they need to do "the flash build" or "the stylish 5 fact" over and over again to learn how to place terran structures aligned with numbers. Apperntly learning a very rigid and fragile build order takes preference to learning to scout or adapt. /rant | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
team stats screen. ![]() week map screen ![]() set map screen ![]() ingame overlay. ![]() I'm hoping to do the first cast in a few days and I'll announce the next weeks matchups on it (still preseason, everyone needs to get used to how it works). | ||
tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Salazarz
Korea (South)2591 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On August 14 2014 10:16 tonight wrote: I wish I had anytime at all to play in this. After Aug 31st I'll have time, but by then maybe it's too late? If not can a captain still get a hold of me to play? On August 14 2014 11:26 Salazarz wrote: Is it too late to sign up? Somehow I missed this thread but seems like amazing fun and I'd love to participate! Well due to inactivity and just trying to get everyone to get used to the organisation we'll probably not be starting until september, just pre season games until then so if you want to join a team just PM me what you want and I'll get the captain to talk to you both :> | ||
LightningStrike
United States14276 Posts
Set 2: Colosseum II Set 3: Neo Aztec Set 4: Neo Electric Circuit Set 5: Polaris Rhapsody These the map order for this week? | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
In other news, the first cast is penciled in for this evening (for europe) and this afternoon for the americas. You'll be able to find us at hitbox.tv/Qikz at 21:10 GMT (+00:00). I've put a lot of effort in to making all the graphics and gathering all the stuff I need, so hopefully you'll enjoy and like them as much as I have done making them. http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2014/08/#event_23528 | ||
Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
On August 16 2014 22:55 Stratos wrote: Nice overlays ![]() Heavily based on the original, but because I'm not all that great at designing graphics especially not working with colours I had to go with a different colour scheme and take some creative liberties. The layout is pretty much all exactly the same, just with an extra screen that proleague never used so I've got something to show while I'm trying to fix everything behind it. This is either going to go really well or be a complete disaster from my perspective haha. I've got so much on the stream UI to constantly chop and change. | ||
MinscandBoo
252 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
![]() Banner from prototype. Also, if you like truth, click the banner. (Relevant back in 2011!) 2014-2015 Shinhan Tank Fantasy ProLeague Pre-Season Week 1 Game 1 Day August 16th 2014 Date 21:10 GMT (+00:00) ![]() ![]() <<Colosseum II>> <<Neo Aztec>> <<Neo Electric Circuit>> <<Polaris Rhapsody>> <<Fighting Spirit>> LINEUPS + Show Spoiler + RESULTS + Show Spoiler + RECOMMENDED GAMES + Show Spoiler + STREAM http://hitbox.tv/qikz | ||
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Falling
Canada11314 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Select it as Live Event and save the stream info. Then switch back to No Event. - nvm ninja'd | ||
dRaW
Canada5744 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
![]() 2014-2015 Shinhan Tank Fantasy ProLeague Pre-Season Day 2 Day August 10th 2014 Date 09:00 GMT (+00:00) (time is variable, PPs accepted up to a week after game date so don't worry about the time) ![]() ![]() <<Colosseum II>> <<Neo Aztec>> <<Neo Electric Circuit>> <<Polaris Rhapsody>> <<Fighting Spirit>> LINEUPS + Show Spoiler + RESULTS + Show Spoiler + RECOMMENDED GAMES + Show Spoiler + STREAM If you want to stream the games when they've been played, please do send me a PM! Once again, sorry for the double post! | ||
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