Sandlot Week2 controversy - Page 3

On October 06 2006 14:22 EvilTeletubby wrote:
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Honestly, I think we're at the point now where you simply do not question Midian or Romad when it comes to hotkey fingerprinting.

On October 06 2006 14:35 SchOOl_VicTIm wrote:

btw, can u please revert the liquibet result as you did with the draco situation? +1 point for me would be cool

On October 07 2006 06:31 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
wow what a promising league this is turning out to be lol. What made u guys check to see if it was real one this time? i mean draco's guy was supposed to be drunk and it was really obvious but what did paris do for u guys to go inspecting? or did ya just do it cause of the kosiro incident ~~

On October 07 2006 10:12 Mortality wrote:
I could not find additional evidence supporting this with action distributions. Actually, from the replays I analyzed, Eun and Paris have nearly identical action distributions and they also have similar apm and apm curves. I looked at replays of paris from week 1, "paris" from week 2 and 3 replays of eun[fou] that were in my archive.

It would be much easier to see for sure if the week 2 games had been against a Zerg. Nal_Paris does have one VERY UNUSUAL tendency, which is that he actually uses the "heal" action whereas most people set their medics on attack move, allowing them to auto-heal. In the games against S2, Paris had 1-3% of his actions (in every game) as heal.

Unfortunately, nobody uses medics in TvT for obvious reasons.



Still, this evidence does NOT contradict what Midian said. In fact, the evidence I gathered shows that it is possible for either Paris or Eun to have played the game. Neither is excluded. The hotkeys used agree with Eun, not with Paris, so it is far more likely that Eun played the games.

On October 06 2006 17:06 SuperJongMan wrote:
Nonsense. My people never cheat. We are so super-evolved we can change habitual tendencies such as hotkeys and make silly white men think they caught us. NONSENSE.

On October 07 2006 10:12 Mortality wrote:
It would be much easier to see for sure if the week 2 games had been against a Zerg. Nal_Paris does have one VERY UNUSUAL tendency, which is that he actually uses the "heal" action whereas most people set their medics on attack move, allowing them to auto-heal. In the games against S2, Paris had 1-3% of his actions (in every game) as heal.
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On October 07 2006 13:36 IdrA wrote:
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everyone uses the heal action for meds, 'a' = heal for medics. they have no attack move command.

On October 08 2006 01:52 MuShu wrote:
Maybe he means he actually clicks the "heal" button with his mouse instead of doing a+move.

On October 08 2006 04:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
What I think he means is that he for example selects marines with his medics in the hotkey, then presses A. It won't register as heal, but as attack move in bwchart. Apparently, paris hotkeys his medics seperately and uses the heal command to send them after the marines. At least, that's what I think.