EPTcant see anything cuz they cant finish games or turn in reps :/
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
cant see anything cuz they cant finish games or turn in reps :/ | ||
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msj[r2d2]
Russian Federation25 Posts
On December 18 2013 07:35 arb wrote: are we ever gonna get weeks 2-5 from msj? cant see anything cuz they cant finish games or turn in reps :/ yeap, sorry. In 1-2 days Lir would send them, i think. We've collected probably all replays. Except 4th week Magreidis vs mSj[Anxarat] @ Circuit Breaker. As I've heard, Magredis asked for PP and did not answer to Anxarat at skype -- We can wait for 1-2 days Magredis really want to play, just send some words at skype to Anxarat -- vodka. | ||
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George_the_man
796 Posts
On December 18 2013 08:14 msj[r2d2] wrote: yeap, sorry. In 1-2 days Lir would send them, i think. We've collected probably all replays. Except 4th week Magreidis vs mSj[Anxarat] @ Circuit Breaker. As I've heard, Magredis asked for PP and did not answer to Anxarat at skype -- We can wait for 1-2 days Magredis really want to play, just send some words at skype to Anxarat -- vodka. replays is one thing , but posting results shouldnt be a problem.. | ||
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CityShuffle
France57 Posts
On December 18 2013 07:02 L_Master wrote: Spoiling to avoid a major distraction to DRTL discussion + Show Spoiler + I can understand this sentiment, but my personal belief is that people can, and do, make mistakes and do stupid shit. They deserve some punishment, and indeed they have received that in the form of being banned from all D/C ranks events. That said, I don't feel a stupid decision or two merits a lifetime of being banished from the community and scene. A length ban (4-5 yr) from competitive play is one thing, but I don't believe total ostracizion from the community is warranted. + Show Spoiler + You may not remember it, but in the DRTL season 4 the multiples cheat cost team Ace his spot in play-off with the addition of the NW massive w/o and Sun Khan winning us 3-2. And you ask people of Ace to be happy to join an event with thoses same guyz ? babo was forgiven already, and did reitered cheat everywhere he went, and you ask us to accept thoses players who fucked up the DRTL league ? Seriously, please take a second and think about how many players you gonna insult by let them participate. just the fact you can consider it is an insult. Side note, my result against HBT + Show Spoiler +  CityShuffle <Fighting Spirit> HappyBunnyTime | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On December 18 2013 07:02 L_Master wrote: Spoiling to avoid a major distraction to DRTL discussion + Show Spoiler + I can understand this sentiment, but my personal belief is that people can, and do, make mistakes and do stupid shit. They deserve some punishment, and indeed they have received that in the form of being banned from all D/C ranks events. That said, I don't feel a stupid decision or two merits a lifetime of being banished from the community and scene. A length ban (4-5 yr) from competitive play is one thing, but I don't believe total ostracizion from the community is warranted. + Show Spoiler + I believe in forgiveness as well, but fanatacist/Babo and his associates have been guilty to scumbaggery time and time again. At least 3 confirmed cases of smurfing and multiple perma-bans across many accounts on TL should reveal a history of behavior that can't really be trusted, to say the least. | ||
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
On December 18 2013 07:02 L_Master wrote: Spoiling to avoid a major distraction to DRTL discussion + Show Spoiler + I can understand this sentiment, but my personal belief is that people can, and do, make mistakes and do stupid shit. They deserve some punishment, and indeed they have received that in the form of being banned from all D/C ranks events. That said, I don't feel a stupid decision or two merits a lifetime of being banished from the community and scene. A length ban (4-5 yr) from competitive play is one thing, but I don't believe total ostracizion from the community is warranted. + Show Spoiler + Not to mention that I don't think they ever apologized. I'd be happy to forgive them if they showed a reasonable amount of remorse and apologized publicly to the community, but they haven't. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On December 18 2013 09:05 Sentenal wrote: I think its completely ridiculous to allow Babo and his cheater friends into any DRTL event. Do you guys realize that because of all their cheating, DRTL4 was a complete joke? The team who won it in the end also had nearly all of its relevant members banned after the fact for being smurfing cheaters. And now its being considered to allow them back? What a joke. Only if you consider a one off, non-competitive showmatch to be allowing them back. This isn't DRTL, at least not in my mind, its a one-off legacy/showmatch type event. On December 18 2013 08:43 Birdie wrote: Not to mention that I don't think they ever apologized. I'd be happy to forgive them if they showed a reasonable amount of remorse and apologized publicly to the community, but they haven't. No, this isn't a full fledged "I'm sorry", but in some ways I'm more convinced by this than an apology that could easily be bullshitted. He pretty much just validated everything Nina said, the large portion of which had to do with thoughts on his cheating. A formal apology would be nice however, IF he decides to play, and IF I decide to allow it. On September 10 2013 19:33 Jealous wrote: Nina can I be your fanclub president? (If Draw is; I'll take VP). This is by far one of the funniest, most insightful posts I've ever read. I laughed my ass off hahaha xD Thank you. That post is so fucking true and I know I didn't tell anyone on TL. I don't even... Seriously though, whaaaaat. Much much newfound respect for you Nina. On December 18 2013 08:36 EchOne wrote: I believe in forgiveness as well, but fanatacist/Babo and his associates have been guilty to scumbaggery time and time again. At least 3 confirmed cases of smurfing and multiple perma-bans across many accounts on TL should reveal a history of behavior that can't really be trusted, to say the least. A player cheating uncaught for a while is bad, but what I really will take issue with is if they cheated, got caught, then cheated again. That's deliberate, and shows an attitude of "I' okay with cheating, just not okay with getting caught." This is indeed an issue, and the thing that will be the deciding factor if I do not allow him to play. It's worth me mentioning that to the best of my knowledge however beach only cheated/smurfed in one single incident, that being the one in DRIT against Dazed. If I am wrong feel free to set the record straight. | ||
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KazeHydra
Japan2788 Posts
On December 18 2013 08:36 EchOne wrote: + Show Spoiler + I believe in forgiveness as well, but fanatacist/Babo and his associates have been guilty to scumbaggery time and time again. At least 3 confirmed cases of smurfing and multiple perma-bans across many accounts on TL should reveal a history of behavior that can't really be trusted, to say the least. + Show Spoiler + Yup. A one time offense is one thing - fine, people make dumb decisions sometimes. But Babo and friends have still tried to smurf into D rank events since being banned and chalk it up as "being bored" while making inflammatory remarks toward D rank players and that they "don't actually care" about the league. I think the community reaction was initially "sorry, you're banned," but after seeing what they've done since has inspired the current ostracizing, which in this case is deserved. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
Its a complete joke that you are considering allowing these banned scumbags who ruined DRTL4 to play in any DRTL event. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On December 18 2013 10:00 Sentenal wrote: Beach didn't just smurf one game. ImattheBeach WAS a smurf account. The game that tipped people off was when SlowBullets "smurfed" a game for him, but this was actually misleading. As it turns out, Beach was SlowBullets, the C Ranked captain who also got banned for cheating in CRTL. Every single game he played in this league was an infraction. Its a complete joke that you are considering allowing these banned scumbags who ruined DRTL4 to play in any DRTL event. he seemed more like a d rank player to me to be fair he was pretty awful, i beat him with bcs and nukes l0l. | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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SynC[gm]
United States3127 Posts
On December 18 2013 07:35 arb wrote: are we ever gonna get weeks 2-5 from msj? cant see anything cuz they cant finish games or turn in reps :/ Thing about mSj folks is that when they win, they simply submit reps, so we have to find out the score from watching the replays. On December 18 2013 10:17 tonight wrote: I've been smurfing my entire life Ain't nobody care about you. | ||
Harem
United States11390 Posts
On December 18 2013 15:24 Birdie wrote: There was both a player called ImAtTheBeach and a guy called SlowBullets/Sugo[PaiN]/Minister who smurfed on his account (I think they're all the same, or at least in the same house). ImAtTheBeach was like D+/C-, the others are B level. Slowbullets and sugo_v_ are two different people. | ||
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EchOne
United States2906 Posts
On December 18 2013 16:07 SynC[gm] wrote: so we have to find out the score from watching the replays. To be fair, confirming results is kind of an organizer's responsibility. | ||
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On December 18 2013 16:11 EchOne wrote: To be fair, confirming results is kind of an organizer's responsibility. yeah but they could just say we won 5-0, no real point in lying when you have reps to back it up if they're 0-5 and they decide to lie about also could scroll to the last few lines in bw chart to see xx has left the game too. | ||
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