• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:03
CEST 18:03
KST 01:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued 2026 GSL Tour plans announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1699 users

D Rank Teamleague Season 5 - Page 11

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 41 Next All
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 29 2013 22:09 GMT
#201
You guys don't think "Hey, lets do the exact same thing as this but call it something different" actually changes anything, do you?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
floladriblere
Profile Joined August 2011
France85 Posts
July 29 2013 22:17 GMT
#202
On July 30 2013 05:17 EchOne wrote:
Tentative Team Courage roster:

:race: <iCCup ID> (Max: <Lifetime Max Rank> ID: <TL ID>)

*Captain*
Sentenal (Max: C- ID: Sentenal)

*Players*
Nagisama (Max: C- ID: Nagisama)
snipin_panda (Max: C- ID: snipinpanda)
Wala.Revolution (Max: C- ID: DryWater)
ghrur (Max: C- ID: aeghrur)
tonight (Max: C- ID: massgame)
EchOne (Max: D ID: prophecy_)
Epoxide (Max: D ID: ???)

We might be joined later by KazeHydra and SniperTerran but they are indisposed atm.



Nice CRTL team! Oh wait...
boum su4ka!
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 29 2013 22:18 GMT
#203
if everyone played enough games here they would hit C- it's not really saying much
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 29 2013 22:22 GMT
#204
On July 30 2013 06:13 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 06:06 Sentenal wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:00 rauk wrote:
your trueskill rating puts you at approximately the same strength as lmaster or aeghrur or any random c- player from the league

IDK wtf trueskill is, but it is true hes never gotten above D on Iccup. Iccup ranks don't reflect skill anyway, so I don't see the point of people 'wtf'ing at Echo not lying when he says what he has ladder on Iccup before.

On July 30 2013 03:46 arb wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:34 Sentenal wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:42 arb wrote:
On July 30 2013 01:57 Sentenal wrote:
On July 29 2013 12:47 Birdie wrote:
On July 29 2013 12:06 EchOne wrote:
I'm not participating in an event where one person runs 2 teams.

I won't be running the other team, Arca will most likely.

Yeah, that barely makes any difference.

I'm confused about why people are so fucking butthurt over this, its really ridiculous

it's not like we're playing for hundreds of thousands of dollars where match fixing would actually have a purpose, i dont think anyone cares enough about winning to fix games. Like someone said earlier have them play each other at the start if thats the case, fucks sake.

Yeah, you are right, we aren't playing for money, so fuxk rules, organization, and integretity. Lets allow hackers and smurfs into the league as well, its not like there is money involved, so apparently that makes it okay.

It's not even the same thing, half of you arguing for the sake of arguing. What do they have to gain by match fixing? Nothing.
Thats assuming these random internet players(that have never met/never will) are going to willingly throw games so that other people they dont know can win. And I think the chance of that happening drops dramatically to basically be non existent when you factor in theres no prize for them to win if they do decide to rig games(which im 100% certain wouldnt happen)

What does anyone have to gain by cheating (in any form what so ever) in this league? Nothing. No money involved. Therefore, since no one has any monetary motivations in this league, we should get rid of all of our rules. You have opened my eyes.


Anyway, if there are 2 sB teams this season, there probably won't a Courage team. I'm with Echo, and I doubt anyone else on the team wants to step up and captain, so thats that..


http://malcolmsharpe.github.io/iccup-ratings/html/leaderboard.html

rating system similar in idea to elo but with different calculations

he might deliberately not ladder so he's not better than "d" but it's pretty clear he's much better than that

also if the second SB team is made up entirely of the new recruits that birdie says he found, what is the motivation for them to cheat for birdie? basically none


How do you even find people on that thing?
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 29 2013 22:23 GMT
#205
On July 30 2013 07:22 tonight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 06:13 rauk wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:06 Sentenal wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:00 rauk wrote:
your trueskill rating puts you at approximately the same strength as lmaster or aeghrur or any random c- player from the league

IDK wtf trueskill is, but it is true hes never gotten above D on Iccup. Iccup ranks don't reflect skill anyway, so I don't see the point of people 'wtf'ing at Echo not lying when he says what he has ladder on Iccup before.

On July 30 2013 03:46 arb wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:34 Sentenal wrote:
On July 30 2013 02:42 arb wrote:
On July 30 2013 01:57 Sentenal wrote:
On July 29 2013 12:47 Birdie wrote:
On July 29 2013 12:06 EchOne wrote:
I'm not participating in an event where one person runs 2 teams.

I won't be running the other team, Arca will most likely.

Yeah, that barely makes any difference.

I'm confused about why people are so fucking butthurt over this, its really ridiculous

it's not like we're playing for hundreds of thousands of dollars where match fixing would actually have a purpose, i dont think anyone cares enough about winning to fix games. Like someone said earlier have them play each other at the start if thats the case, fucks sake.

Yeah, you are right, we aren't playing for money, so fuxk rules, organization, and integretity. Lets allow hackers and smurfs into the league as well, its not like there is money involved, so apparently that makes it okay.

It's not even the same thing, half of you arguing for the sake of arguing. What do they have to gain by match fixing? Nothing.
Thats assuming these random internet players(that have never met/never will) are going to willingly throw games so that other people they dont know can win. And I think the chance of that happening drops dramatically to basically be non existent when you factor in theres no prize for them to win if they do decide to rig games(which im 100% certain wouldnt happen)

What does anyone have to gain by cheating (in any form what so ever) in this league? Nothing. No money involved. Therefore, since no one has any monetary motivations in this league, we should get rid of all of our rules. You have opened my eyes.


Anyway, if there are 2 sB teams this season, there probably won't a Courage team. I'm with Echo, and I doubt anyone else on the team wants to step up and captain, so thats that..


http://malcolmsharpe.github.io/iccup-ratings/html/leaderboard.html

rating system similar in idea to elo but with different calculations

he might deliberately not ladder so he's not better than "d" but it's pretty clear he's much better than that

also if the second SB team is made up entirely of the new recruits that birdie says he found, what is the motivation for them to cheat for birdie? basically none


How do you even find people on that thing?

ctrl + f
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 29 2013 22:24 GMT
#206
On July 30 2013 07:18 tonight wrote:
if everyone played enough games here they would hit C- it's not really saying much


With enough games one can hit C- with less than 50% winrate playing only against D opponents without motw. By playing only D+ opponents and motw you can hit C- with 30% winrate...
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 22:26:13
July 29 2013 22:25 GMT
#207
On July 30 2013 07:17 floladriblere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 05:17 EchOne wrote:
Tentative Team Courage roster:

:race: <iCCup ID> (Max: <Lifetime Max Rank> ID: <TL ID>)

*Captain*
Sentenal (Max: C- ID: Sentenal)

*Players*
Nagisama (Max: C- ID: Nagisama)
snipin_panda (Max: C- ID: snipinpanda)
Wala.Revolution (Max: C- ID: DryWater)
ghrur (Max: C- ID: aeghrur)
tonight (Max: C- ID: massgame)
EchOne (Max: D ID: prophecy_)
Epoxide (Max: D ID: ???)

We might be joined later by KazeHydra and SniperTerran but they are indisposed atm.



Nice CRTL team! Oh wait...

Either C- players can play, or they cannot. Since there are several C- players listed in the OP, I'm assuming the former.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 22:36:53
July 29 2013 22:35 GMT
#208
On July 30 2013 07:09 Sentenal wrote:
You guys don't think "Hey, lets do the exact same thing as this but call it something different" actually changes anything, do you?


exactly

so what i'm asking is if, before any mention of a 2nd SB team or anything, arca had said "i don't like birdie, i'm making my own team" and make his own team, would that have been acceptable? and if that is acceptable, why isn't 2 SB teams acceptable since they're essentially equivalent?

what if i decided i wanted to captain my own DRTL team this season? would you say "no, you used to play for despa, so you aren't allowed to"
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 29 2013 22:38 GMT
#209
On July 30 2013 07:25 EchOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:17 floladriblere wrote:
On July 30 2013 05:17 EchOne wrote:
Tentative Team Courage roster:

:race: <iCCup ID> (Max: <Lifetime Max Rank> ID: <TL ID>)

*Captain*
Sentenal (Max: C- ID: Sentenal)

*Players*
Nagisama (Max: C- ID: Nagisama)
snipin_panda (Max: C- ID: snipinpanda)
Wala.Revolution (Max: C- ID: DryWater)
ghrur (Max: C- ID: aeghrur)
tonight (Max: C- ID: massgame)
EchOne (Max: D ID: prophecy_)
Epoxide (Max: D ID: ???)

We might be joined later by KazeHydra and SniperTerran but they are indisposed atm.



Nice CRTL team! Oh wait...

Either C- players can play, or they cannot. Since there are several C- players listed in the OP, I'm assuming the former.


That's a reasonable assumption
...unlike some others made in the thread
Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
July 29 2013 23:05 GMT
#210
On July 30 2013 07:35 rauk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:09 Sentenal wrote:
You guys don't think "Hey, lets do the exact same thing as this but call it something different" actually changes anything, do you?


exactly

so what i'm asking is if, before any mention of a 2nd SB team or anything, arca had said "i don't like birdie, i'm making my own team" and make his own team, would that have been acceptable? and if that is acceptable, why isn't 2 SB teams acceptable since they're essentially equivalent?

what if i decided i wanted to captain my own DRTL team this season? would you say "no, you used to play for despa, so you aren't allowed to"
The concern is that friends and ex teammates have a greater likelihood and incentive to conspire in order to aid one another. If it were true that Arca, and many of his future teammates were not friends with Birde and his remaining teammates, then yes, it would change the entire nature of the situation. But note, it would change the situation entirely, we are not in that position whatsoever.
Never say Die! ||| Fight you? No, I want to kill you.
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
July 29 2013 23:30 GMT
#211
We aren't? I thought the issue was that sb had too many new guys who wouldn't have an opportunity to play
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 29 2013 23:41 GMT
#212
On July 30 2013 08:05 Dazed_Spy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:35 rauk wrote:
On July 30 2013 07:09 Sentenal wrote:
You guys don't think "Hey, lets do the exact same thing as this but call it something different" actually changes anything, do you?


exactly

so what i'm asking is if, before any mention of a 2nd SB team or anything, arca had said "i don't like birdie, i'm making my own team" and make his own team, would that have been acceptable? and if that is acceptable, why isn't 2 SB teams acceptable since they're essentially equivalent?

what if i decided i wanted to captain my own DRTL team this season? would you say "no, you used to play for despa, so you aren't allowed to"
The concern is that friends and ex teammates have a greater likelihood and incentive to conspire in order to aid one another. If it were true that Arca, and many of his future teammates were not friends with Birde and his remaining teammates, then yes, it would change the entire nature of the situation. But note, it would change the situation entirely, we are not in that position whatsoever.

We're basically in that position, in that it would be Arca and probably TheMarine running the second team, and the members would be new people to sB, so in that sense they're not longtime friends.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
July 29 2013 23:54 GMT
#213
On July 30 2013 07:24 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:18 tonight wrote:
if everyone played enough games here they would hit C- it's not really saying much


With enough games one can hit C- with less than 50% winrate playing only against D opponents without motw. By playing only D+ opponents and motw you can hit C- with 30% winrate...

I have 0% winrate vs D+ opponents \o/

Also Echo, I'll be able to play some weeks so just add me to roster. Probably will disappear again near end of Sept.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
SynC[gm]
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States3127 Posts
July 30 2013 02:36 GMT
#214
I'm pretty sure everyone is set on the fact that if Stealth Bunnies go through with the 2-team plan, that Courage won't play. So I guess this is just a matter of Birdie deciding on whether or not Courage is going to play? I don't see either side getting convinced for the other point...

Also, Birdie, to your point about having 8-9 teams, obviously, that's what happened DRTL4, but look at all the walkovers that happened and the entire NW Power fiasco. I'm pretty sure most of us can agree on the fact that the league isn't really focused on "getting D-/D players to get better" anymore. We're all out to win, which is a fair goal to set, but lets not put out the bullshit excuse that this person or the other person wants D-/D players to come in here and have a merry good time losing all day long to D+/C- players, and improving enough overnight to beat said D+/C- players the next day.

As Echo said, Lmaster should finally set this in stone; players that have hit C-, or are very close to C-, are allowed to play or shouldn't be allowed to play. Goes for TAKK, for myself, for Lmaster himself, and for everyone that plans on participating.
twitch.tv/dizzywee
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
July 30 2013 02:50 GMT
#215
Okay, few things:

1)Two teams captained by different people with different, set rosters is acceptable to me. That's perfectly reasonable, and doesn't set a bad precedent as I see it. There is nothing wrong with a team becoming too big and fragmenting into smaller teams with seperate captains and rosters.
2)Wala and Panda are definitly not eligible to play. I'm probably allowing previous DRTL players to play for the sake of keeping the league in tact, but definitely not allowing in former yellow ranks or new yellow ranks...even if they have been inactive.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 02:58:59
July 30 2013 02:58 GMT
#216
Courage won't be participating this DRTL, then. Have fun with the league, everyone who is.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 30 2013 03:00 GMT
#217
son of a bitch
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 30 2013 03:01 GMT
#218
what teams are still available?
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 30 2013 03:01 GMT
#219
On July 30 2013 11:58 Sentenal wrote:
Courage won't be participating this DRTL, then. Have fun with the league, everyone who is.

I haven't actually confirmed that there will be two teams, this was all an idea, and it somewhat relies on me finding three more players. I have too many for one team and not quite enough for two, I'd suggest you wait until we find out if I can find enough players or not.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 30 2013 03:04 GMT
#220
K, well in the event you do find those players, Courage won't be participating.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 13 41 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
16:00
#112
MaNa vs goblin
Scarlett vs Spirit
Serral vs herO
RotterdaM269
Liquipedia
OSC
15:00
King of the Hill #244
Liquipedia
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Group B
WardiTV1400
TKL 377
Rex142
3DClanTV 99
Liquipedia
Escore
10:00
Week 3
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 377
RotterdaM 269
Rex 142
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1112
Mini 377
Soma 319
actioN 220
Snow 147
ToSsGirL 141
Hyuk 116
Dewaltoss 97
Sexy 94
Rush 91
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 90
Hyun 72
JYJ 71
Aegong 70
scan(afreeca) 51
Backho 28
Rock 23
Terrorterran 22
Hm[arnc] 21
JulyZerg 14
Bale 9
Britney 0
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
Gorgc4268
qojqva2393
League of Legends
Reynor97
Counter-Strike
fl0m5573
olofmeister2540
ceh9254
kRYSTAL_30
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King83
Other Games
B2W.Neo1284
FrodaN1209
hiko734
crisheroes127
ArmadaUGS107
QueenE56
Trikslyr49
KnowMe40
MindelVK5
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV318
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 55
• EnkiAlexander 49
• poizon28 17
• LUISG 15
• iHatsuTV 8
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV384
League of Legends
• Nemesis3352
• TFBlade1354
Other Games
• Shiphtur181
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
10h 57m
CranKy Ducklings
17h 57m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
18h 57m
IPSL
23h 57m
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
1d 2h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
1d 5h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 7h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 18h
Ladder Legends
1d 22h
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-16
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.