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On June 06 2013 02:45 Sinedd wrote:Jesus Christ.. all the fucking hate towards me here.. (especially that Jealous dude.. but he was hating NW Power since day 1 so its not like Im surprised or anything  ) Like I killed your guys dog or something.. it was just a D rank tournament T_T there were no money involved.. It was FOR FUN, and I didnt had FUN so I quitted.. Im sorry, I did kinda fuck up ok I understand that you could be mad, but as I said - it wasnt like I forbidden my players to play.. I just said that I dont feel like being a cpt anymore.. for fuck sake.. arent you guys overreacting a bit ? Besides I didnt really know how good Maciej is anyways, and there were more players who were C not only him.. I wont fucking beg to play in this league, if Im gonna meet such a high level of hate then just fuck it. You guys play your own leagues if you want.. but you have to know that some of you act like a bunch of, god knows why butthurt, haters.. -.- wow
If you had fucked up as you did and come clean and said "I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that Maciej is C, he won't be playing any more," then I'd have nothing against you.
Have you forgotten your behavior? After the whole situation blew up, you stopped responding to everyone as far as I know. You kept posting on TL even while the rest of the league was trying to decide what to do about NW, and decided it wasn't your responsibility to chime in. You didn't just stop being a captain, you abandoned the entire issue and the league, and now you want everyone to act like nothing happened. Here is what happened:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397994¤tpage=69
Maciej C revealed, just days after NW captain supported a hypocritical acceptance of W/O.
Then you fail to send a week's worth of replays, despite receiving multiple warnings about it. Your response:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397994¤tpage=73#1456
So therefore this had to happen:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397994¤tpage=81#1608
Because after that point you didn't say a single thing. Why should you be rewarded with continued participation in DR leagues if you've fucked one up so royally? Of course it's still Nagisama's decision, but the fact that it was a free league does NOT excuse your behavior in the eyes of others. It's still a league with dozens of players besides yourself, and you decided to make extra hassle for others, all of which are of course not going to financially benefit from any of it.
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On June 06 2013 04:02 Sinedd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 03:05 rauk wrote:
Lol.... When you're captain you take responsibility for everyone on your team. If someone on your team is ineligible and you turn a blind eye despite other people telling you about his C, then you can't be surprised that people don't want you back in D events. Also you told no one you were quitting or that NW needed a new captain or who to contact or what. Since you're the only point of contact to NW, you have a responsibility to tell the organizers what's goin on with your team. there was much more players hitting and playing on a C level in this event and nobody said shit about it.. just my players got banned.. but nvm. Besides, I dont think any of you guys have right to ban me from this event.. its up to the admin, so as Ive said. If ur gonna ban me then do so.. I just think its fucking sad how some ppl act.. cheers PS - Im sorry, I did fuck up but I still think you're overreacting as fuck..
Every other player was accounted for - sent in rep packs or retired. I sent in a rep pack to L_Master, for example. Arb had sent one in not too long before that iirc. The fucked up thing is that you STILL have this immature shitty l o l attitude about it. No remorse at all. Pointing fingers at others and saying it's unfair when you're the one who is to blame for the drama and problem in the first place. Pathetic.
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Can we stop spamming the smiley face? It's annoying as fuck and makes everybody spamming it look like a douchebag.
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only your players got banned because only your players were like "yeah im D+" and tried to hide the fact that they were C. everyone else was like "yeah i C/C- X years ago" or "i was D+ but i hit C- in the middle of the season" or whatever
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On June 06 2013 04:12 ghrur wrote:Can we stop spamming the smiley face? It's annoying as fuck and makes everybody spamming it look like a douchebag.
That's the point lol
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I have no intention of derailing the thread but I just think that as a D+/C-/maybe C? xD myself I just think that these tournaments will be very hard to host and is bound to create some arguments. Say if you accept C- players, then the C will be asking why they can't play etc etc...
Also, the boundary of ranks in iccup just vary too much. Timezone (before the Koreans left of course), win-rate, match-ups, dodging...
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Yeah, but those arguments were put to rest awhile ago. The argument we have now is that he was ignorant about the situation, despite being the captain of the team. He simply let a C-ranked player play; the argument isn't about whether it was right that he played, it was about the captain not caring enough to realize he was actually C.
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Canada4481 Posts
I don't see anything wrong with letting Sinedd play in DRIT.
1. He's on the waitlist, he might not even be able to play if everyone shows up.
2. His abilities to manage his team is irrelevant in an individual tournament.
3. Whatever he did/did not do, I'll just leave it to whoever is hosting the next team league to deal with.
That said, if he said he withdraws, that's fine with me, doesn't really affect anything. I'd just go to next on the waitlist.
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Not to turn this into a hatefest, but I do think Sinedd should be barred from captaining in future events, since most of the problems he caused were related to his avoiding the necessary duties of captaining.
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On June 06 2013 02:45 Sinedd wrote:Jesus Christ.. all the fucking hate towards me here.. (especially that Jealous dude.. but he was hating NW Power since day 1 so its not like Im surprised or anything ) Like I killed your guys dog or something.. it was just a D rank tournament T_T there were no money involved.. It was FOR FUN, and I didnt had FUN so I quitted.. Im sorry, I did kinda fuck up ok I understand that you could be mad, but as I said - it wasnt like I forbidden my players to play.. I just said that I dont feel like being a cpt anymore.. for fuck sake.. arent you guys overreacting a bit ? Besides I didnt really know how good Maciej is anyways, and there were more players who were C not only him..
I wont fucking beg to play in this league, if Im gonna meet such a high level of hate then just fuck it. You guys play your own leagues if you want.. but you have to know that some of you act like a bunch of, god knows why butthurt, haters.. -.- wow
like who?
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On June 06 2013 12:10 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 02:45 Sinedd wrote:Jesus Christ.. all the fucking hate towards me here.. (especially that Jealous dude.. but he was hating NW Power since day 1 so its not like Im surprised or anything ) Like I killed your guys dog or something.. it was just a D rank tournament T_T there were no money involved.. It was FOR FUN, and I didnt had FUN so I quitted.. Im sorry, I did kinda fuck up ok I understand that you could be mad, but as I said - it wasnt like I forbidden my players to play.. I just said that I dont feel like being a cpt anymore.. for fuck sake.. arent you guys overreacting a bit ? Besides I didnt really know how good Maciej is anyways, and there were more players who were C not only him..
I wont fucking beg to play in this league, if Im gonna meet such a high level of hate then just fuck it. You guys play your own leagues if you want.. but you have to know that some of you act like a bunch of, god knows why butthurt, haters.. -.- wow like who?
Obviously anyone that can beat the NW players... :O
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On June 06 2013 06:49 Nagisama wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with letting Sinedd play in DRIT.
1. He's on the waitlist, he might not even be able to play if everyone shows up.
2. His abilities to manage his team is irrelevant in an individual tournament.
3. Whatever he did/did not do, I'll just leave it to whoever is hosting the next team league to deal with.
That said, if he said he withdraws, that's fine with me, doesn't really affect anything. I'd just go to next on the waitlist.
If I can then of course I want to play
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I'll sign up for this.
TL Name: Psyonic_Reaver
ICCup Akas: PsyonicReaver
Highest Max Rank achieved on ANY account: C+ back in 2009 but I could barely hold it.
Race/Matchups: PvAll
DRTL Team you're on/Previous DRITs: DeSPA
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TL Name: CityShuffle
ICCup Akas: CityShuffle
Highest Max Rank achieved on ANY account: D+
Race/Matchups: ZvAll
DRTL Team you're on/Previous DRITs: didnt played any DRIT
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TL Name: NinaZerg
iCCup: NinaZerg
Rank: I got to C once after like some hardcore gaming, but I haven't practiced in so long, so I'm like D+ now 
Race: Zerg
Prior experience: None
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Kinda sad Beach isnt playing ZvT
tt.
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On June 08 2013 05:21 CityShuffle wrote:
TL Name: CityShuffle
ICCup Akas: CityShuffle
Highest Max Rank achieved on ANY account: D+
Race/Matchups: ZvAll
DRTL Team you're on/Previous DRITs: didnt played any DRIT
plz remove me from the list, i wont be available at thoses date =/
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TL Name : KoS-Templar
Iccup Name : KoS-Templar
Rank D+ like 3 Years ago im like E now =)
Race / Matchup Z v P, Z v T , T v Z
Prior experience: None
Sounds like Fun Hope I can Join.
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TL Name: Lannix
iCCup ID: Comsat
ICCup Akas: Lannix, Magic[wOk], IntoTheMagic
Highest Max Rank achieved: ~2900 D+ 1 year back. Just returned from a year hiatus.
Race/Matchups: TvZ / TvP / TvT
I've competed in the DRIT2 under the ID Magic[wOk]. Might have some scheduling problems in August due to classes, but should still be able to make replay submissions.
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Canada4481 Posts
As a heads up, I will be casting the DRTL4 Finals after TLS tomorrow approximately Monday, Jun 24 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00). The important thing specifically related to DRIT is that I will be doing the group sorting for the Ro32.
Stream will be http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Nagisama
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EPT
