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miNi
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Korea (South)2010 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-25 01:28:03
February 23 2006 11:19 GMT
#1
-----SPOILERS-----






























◆SKY PROLEAGUE GRAND FINALS
▶SK TELECOM T1-KTF MAGICNS
Match 1 Goodfriend > Boxer @ R-point
Match 2 Nal_rA/Yellow < Rumble/Canata @ Usan Nation
Match 3 Chojja < iloveoov @ Rush Hour 2
Match 4 Chojja/GoodFriend > Rumble/Rainbow @ Luna the Final
Match 5 Sync < Kingdom @ Neo Requiem
Match 6 Reach/Yellow < Midas/MuMyung @ Iron Curtain

KTF 2:4 SK Telecom T1

GG
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-23 11:23:45
February 23 2006 11:22 GMT
#2
Not to be a jerk, but posted in this thread

I guess we can keep this thread long enough for the Live Reports ^^



On February 18 2006 22:15 EntertainMe wrote:
The maps are set.

2/25(Sat.)
◆Sky Proleague 2005 GrandFinals Final
▶SKTelecomT1-KTFMagicians
1set R Point
2set Usan Nation
3set Rush Hours2
4set Luna the Final
5set Neo Requiem
6set Iron Curtain
7set Neo Forte

now we can make better assumptions
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
miNi
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Korea (South)2010 Posts
February 23 2006 12:28 GMT
#3
lol
Sorry, didn't see that...
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-23 13:45:06
February 23 2006 13:31 GMT
#4
On February 18 2006 23:23 EntertainMe wrote:
Set1 R Point

SKT1:

The player for this team will be either Boxer or Midas. We know boxer has a Godly stats and timing in this map, but so does KTF and every other teams. This is a reason why every team that has played against SKT1 sent out a protoss in this map. No team is foolish enough to send a zerg against Boxer. Anticipating this little fact, SKT1 now few times have sent out Midas, the protoss killer. The chances of seeing Midas is greater if Boxer chooses to enter ANY of 2v2s (probably Iron Curtain if he does decide to enter a 2v2 since the map demands 1. terran 2. strategy.) If boxer have practiced this map, then theres no doubt he will be the one to show in match number one since achieving the first victory plays viral role in proleagues.
Boxer 50%. Midas 50%.

KTF:

Its not going to be a zerg, too much to risk. But keeping in possibility that a zerg has developed a killer move/strategy, ill give this 5%.

If terran, its going to be Goodfriend. I give this possibility 25%.

I strongly believe a protoss will come out whether its Reach or Nal_ra. Knowing this map demands more of a macro game rather than a strategical one, I place the possibilities of Reach coming out slightly higher than Nal_Ra coming out.
In sums, Reach 40% and Nal_Ra 30%.

My prediction: Boxer = Reach


Set2 Usan nation

SKT1:

I am pretty certain that they will send out Rumble(Z) and Canata(T) for this map. SKT1 always has and for the record, Rumble and Canata does have convincing stats in this map. We can see their strength in their last game vs Samsung KHAN. They pulled an one way victory tying the series. 90% sure it will be Rumble/Canata for SKT1.

KTF:

For KTF, there is a choice to make. We've seen Chojja(Z)/Marine(T), Chojja(Z)/GoodFriend(T) and Reach(P)/Yellow(Z) in Usan Nation. However, I'm leaning more toward Chojja/Goodfriend combination. First, they pulled off an amazing win over G.O. in the deciding game 6. Further more, Chojja/Marine lost at their last encounter with SKT1, GoRush(Z)/Midas(T).

Unless Reach/Yellow comes up with a killer strategy, the best bet is on Chojja/GoodFriend. Chojja/GF = 65%, Chojja/Marine = 25%, Reach/Yellow = 10%

My Prediction: Rumble/Canata < Chojja/GF

SKT1 is more known for their 1v1s while KTF is more known for 2v2s.
SKT1 will concentrate more on 1v1s. Likewise, KTF will put their full effort on 2v2s. Because of this reason, I will give KTF slightly higher chance taking the win.

Im having fun predicting, lol...
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
February 23 2006 14:54 GMT
#5
Semi-final thread gogo it starts in one hour i think.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-24 00:59:19
February 23 2006 15:04 GMT
#6
◆Sky Proleague 2005 Stats for the maps (Included all Pre, Post, Pro leagues')

▶SKTelecom
1. R-Point 13:4 (Slayer_'Boxer' 6:0/Midas 4:3/Kingdom 2:0/GoRush 1:0/Rumble 0:1)

2. Rush Hour2 12:2 (iloveoov 6:0/Midas 3:2/GoRush 2:0/Mumyun 1:0)

3. Neo Requiem 12:4 (Kingdom 7:1/Midas 2:0/Boxer, GoRush, 이건준LeeGunJune(Z) 1:0/GoRush 1:2/IntotheRainbow 0:1)

4. Neo Forte 8:8 (Midas 3:0/Rainbow 3:2/ Mumyum 1:0/Kingdom 1:2/ GoRush, Boxer 0:1/ Oov 0:2)

5. Usan Nation 15:10 (Rumble(Z)-Canata(T) 7:2/Boxer-Mumyum 3:5/Rainbow-GoRush 1:1/Midas-Rumble, Canata-Mumyum, Kingdom-Rumble, GoRush-Midas 1:0/Rainbow-Canata, Rainbow-Mumyum 0:1)

6.Luna the Final 6:5 (Rumble-Canata 5:2/GoRush-Kingdom 1:2/Rainbow-Canata 0:1)

7. Iron Curtain 10:8 (Kingdom-Canata 4:1/Mumyum-iloveoov 4:2/Kingdom-GoRush 1:0/GoRush-Boxer 1:2/iloveoov-Midas, Rainbow-GoRush, Boxer-Kingdom 0:1)

▶KTF
1. R-Point 7:11 (Nal_Ra 4:1/TheMarine 2:2/김윤환Kim YeunHwan 1:2/Sync, Reach, GF 0:1/Yellow 0:2)

2. Rush Hour2 10:5 (Sync 5:2/Mingu 2:1/Nal_ra 1:1/Chojja, Yellow 1:0/Reach 0:1)

3. Neo Requiem 8:11 (Nal_Ra 3:2/Reach 3:4/Yellow 1:2/Sync 1:1/이재억Lee Jea Uk, Chojja 0:1)

4. Neo Forte 9: 7 (Nal_Ra 3:3/김윤환Kim YeunHwan 2:1/Reach 2:3/Chojja, Yellow 1:0)

5. Usan Nation 17:13 (Chojja-TheMarine 10: 9/Reach-Chojja 2:1/Yellow-Nal_Ra 2:0/Chojja-Sync, Yellow-TheMarine, GF-Chojja 1:0/Yellow-TheMarine 0:1, Yellow-Chojja 0:2)

6. Luna the Final 11:1 (Yellow-Reach 5:1/TheMarine-Chojja 4:0/Reach-Chojja, Yellow-조병호Jo ByungHo 1:0)

7. Iron Curtain 11: 7 (Yellow-Reach 7:2/Yellow-TheMarine 2:1/Chojja-TheMarine 1:2/Chojja-박현준Park HyunJoon 1:2)

Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
February 23 2006 16:18 GMT
#7
On February 18 2006 23:23 EntertainMe wrote:
Set1 R Point
Knowing this map demands more of a macro game rather than a strategical one, I place the possibilities of Reach coming out slightly higher than Nal_Ra coming out.
In sums, Reach 40% and Nal_Ra 30%.


Ironic as it was Nal_Ra's incredible macro which beat nada in the recent Blizzard tourney
Memory lane in nice
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6124 Posts
February 23 2006 16:53 GMT
#8
isnt this in like 24 hrs?
#1 Terran hater
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
February 23 2006 17:07 GMT
#9
On February 24 2006 01:53 Highways wrote:
isnt this in like 24 hrs?


Yup I think so too
Finals are often on Saturdays and today is Oov vs Casy
Adamthegreat
Profile Joined February 2003
Sweden1179 Posts
February 23 2006 21:29 GMT
#10
Interesting statistics..

Seems like SKT got one really good player on each of the three first 1on1 games:

1. R-Point 13:4 (Slayer_'Boxer' 6:0/Midas 4:3/Kingdom 2:0/GoRush 1:0/Rumble 0:1)

2. Rush Hour2 12:2 (iloveoov 6:0/Midas 3:2/GoRush 2:0/Mumyun 1:0)

3. Neo Requiem 12:4 (Kingdom 7:1/Midas 2:0/Boxer, GoRush, 이건준LeeGunJune(Z) 1:0/GoRush 1:2/IntotheRainbow 0:1)

But KTF seems to have an edge on the 2 last 2v2 games:

6. Luna the Final 11:1 (Yellow-Reach 5:1/TheMarine-Chojja 4:0/Reach-Chojja, Yellow-조병호Jo ByungHo 1:0)

7. Iron Curtain 11: 7 (Yellow-Reach 7:2/Yellow-TheMarine 2:1/Chojja-TheMarine 1:2/Chojja-박현준Park HyunJoon 1:2)

Game 4 and 5 are more equal in the statistics...

But then again it is basically all about matchups..

-_-v
shasin
Profile Joined May 2005
Romania899 Posts
February 23 2006 21:39 GMT
#11
We are going to see their best line-ups here. Anyway i have to say that the Proleague is extremly balanced as a league. KTF and SK T1 deserve their spot in the final and GO, Khan as the next two.
Begone the fools that lead me - I need not to know
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
February 23 2006 22:25 GMT
#12
Gogo Kingdom

Gogo T1
heavy hand upon the land, feel it's weight inside you
gulii
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden2795 Posts
February 23 2006 23:46 GMT
#13
On February 24 2006 06:29 Adamthegreat wrote:
Interesting statistics..

Seems like SKT got one really good player on each of the three first 1on1 games:

1. R-Point 13:4 (Slayer_'Boxer' 6:0/Midas 4:3/Kingdom 2:0/GoRush 1:0/Rumble 0:1)

2. Rush Hour2 12:2 (iloveoov 6:0/Midas 3:2/GoRush 2:0/Mumyun 1:0)

3. Neo Requiem 12:4 (Kingdom 7:1/Midas 2:0/Boxer, GoRush, 이건준LeeGunJune(Z) 1:0/GoRush 1:2/IntotheRainbow 0:1)

But KTF seems to have an edge on the 2 last 2v2 games:

6. Luna the Final 11:1 (Yellow-Reach 5:1/TheMarine-Chojja 4:0/Reach-Chojja, Yellow-조병호Jo ByungHo 1:0)

7. Iron Curtain 11: 7 (Yellow-Reach 7:2/Yellow-TheMarine 2:1/Chojja-TheMarine 1:2/Chojja-박현준Park HyunJoon 1:2)

Game 4 and 5 are more equal in the statistics...

But then again it is basically all about matchups..



This will be a pretty intresting final. But I think that T1 will be stronger this time.
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-24 04:04:53
February 24 2006 00:26 GMT
#14
More interesting facts:

Considering recent results, SKT1 is without a doubt ahead of KTF. SKT1 held a victory in the first Proleague 2005 Finals against none other than KTF. Not only that, SKT1 defeated SamSung KHAN in the later Proleague 2005 earning themselves two titles within a year. SKT1 does not show any sign of laziness/lack of tense(?). They play their best regardless of their opponents. SKT1 did not participate in any of the Invite Tournaments nor the Evaluation Events. This can only show their dedication to win the Grand Finals.

KTF can be compared to Real Madrid Club of Football. KTF's member roster stands out among the teams, yet they lack in cohesion, resulting in inconsistent results. They have created a new astounding record of 23 wins throughout the leagues; however, they have disappointing losses such as their impotent 0-4 defeat against SamSung KHAN.

These two teams are 8 - 3 against one another, KTF leading the stats. Even with such monsterous stats, SKT1 currently presents a better atmosphere. This is because SKT1 has shown dominance over KTF in the previous Finals(4-1). Not only that, SKT1 defeated KTF in the last meeting securing them Ranking #1 which granted them a spot in the Finals against Samsung. Nevertheless, KTF had a triumph over G.O, renewing their confidence.

-This is translated from an article from Daum.net. I saved the draft, yet forgot to save the link.
Anyways, how is my translation? Comprehensive? I know I lack in composition, please do correct my grammar mistakes. It will be greatly appreciated.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
February 24 2006 01:18 GMT
#15
On February 24 2006 09:26 EntertainMe wrote:
More interesting facts:

Basing only on recent result, without a doubt, SKT1 is ahead. SKT1 held a victory in the first Proleague 2005 Finals against none other than KTF. Not only that, SKT1 defeated SamSung KHAN in the later Proleague 2005 earning themselves two titles within a year. SKT1 does not show any sign of laziness/lack of tense(?). They play their best regardless of their opponents. SKT1 did not participate in any of the Invite Tournaments nor the Evaluation Events. This can only show their dedication to win the Grand Finals.

KTF can be related to Real Madrid Club of Football. KTF's member rooster stands out among the teams, yet they lack in cohesion, resulting in inconsistent results. They have created a new astounding record of 23 wins throughout the leagues; however, they have disappointing loses such as 0-4 impotent defeat against SamSung KHAN and more.

These two teams are 8 - 3 against one another, KTF leading the stats. Even with such monsterous stats, SKT1 currently presents a better atmosphere. This is because SKT1 has shown dominance over KTF in the previous Finals(4-1). Not only that, SKT1 defeated KTF in the last meeting securing them Ranking #1 which granted them a spot in the Finals against Samsung. Nevertheless, KTF had a triumph over G.O, renewing their confidence.

-This is translated from an article from Daum.net. I saved the draft, yet forgot to save the link.
Anyways, how is my translation? Comprehensive? I know I lack in composition, please do correct my grammar mistakes. It will be greatly appreciated.


Your translation is sex, amazing.

Kinda nice the stats we have wayyyyyyyy above this :o
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Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
February 24 2006 02:10 GMT
#16
Boxer is the master of rpoint
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
February 24 2006 02:38 GMT
#17
I think SKT1 is stronger, but i couldn't vote against KTF...
Reach, rA, Yellow fighting!!!
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
February 24 2006 02:45 GMT
#18
On February 24 2006 11:10 coulthard[pR] wrote:
Boxer is the master of rpoint


You forget, its not R-Point... its Lim-Point.
Ebenol
Profile Joined May 2003
Sweden1983 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-02-24 03:37:18
February 24 2006 03:36 GMT
#19
On February 24 2006 09:26 EntertainMe wrote:
Basing only on recent result, without a doubt, SKT1 is ahead.

I'd use
Considering recent results, SKT1 is without a doubt ahead of KTF.

KTF can be related to Real Madrid Club of Football.

Related sounds weird to me, compared instead of related sounds better to me.

KTF's member rooster stands out among the teams,

Rooster is an adult male chicken, roster is the correct word to use here.


They have created a new astounding record of 23 wins throughout the leagues; however, they have disappointing loses such as 0-4 impotent defeat against SamSung KHAN and more.

loses -> losses
Also,

such as 0-4 impotent defeat against SamSung KHAN and more.

Sounds weird too, I'd use something like such as their impotent 0-4 defeat against SamSung KHAN.
Your translation is very understandable and your English is definitely not bad. I'm not particularily good at English either and I do feel like an ass correcting English mistakes, still, you asked for it.
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
February 24 2006 04:01 GMT
#20
On February 24 2006 12:36 Ebenol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2006 09:26 EntertainMe wrote:
Basing only on recent result, without a doubt, SKT1 is ahead.

I'd use
Considering recent results, SKT1 is without a doubt ahead of KTF.
Show nested quote +

KTF can be related to Real Madrid Club of Football.

Related sounds weird to me, compared instead of related sounds better to me.
Show nested quote +

KTF's member rooster stands out among the teams,

Rooster is an adult male chicken, roster is the correct word to use here.

Show nested quote +

They have created a new astounding record of 23 wins throughout the leagues; however, they have disappointing loses such as 0-4 impotent defeat against SamSung KHAN and more.

loses -> losses
Also,
Show nested quote +

such as 0-4 impotent defeat against SamSung KHAN and more.

Sounds weird too, I'd use something like such as their impotent 0-4 defeat against SamSung KHAN.
Your translation is very understandable and your English is definitely not bad. I'm not particularily good at English either and I do feel like an ass correcting English mistakes, still, you asked for it.


I thank you for your time and effort. ^^

Rooster is an adult male chicken, roster is the correct word to use here.
LoL, thats very embarrassing, but I asked for it. hehe
And please do not feel ill for correcting my silly mistakes. I am glad that you pointed out the errors I made. Thank you once again.
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