EPTSo either Fantasy takes up the mantle of Boxer (2 OSLs) or Jangbi takes the mantle of GARIMTO (2 OSLs as well). Sweet! But still Jangbi all the way!!!
Edit- after some reading, yeah, eff the term bonjwa.
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c3rberUs
Japan11928 Posts
So either Fantasy takes up the mantle of Boxer (2 OSLs) or Jangbi takes the mantle of GARIMTO (2 OSLs as well). Sweet! But still Jangbi all the way!!! Edit- after some reading, yeah, eff the term bonjwa. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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c3rberUs
Japan11928 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:43 Xiphos wrote: Kinda wish that OSL would still be in BW so that JB can get his golden mouse afterward... I'm all for this. (I still believe) | ||
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On July 20 2012 10:22 Xiphos wrote: Whoever who came up with the terms Bonjwa anyways? The term originated with Savior, and was awarded to Boxer / Nada / oov later. Since Flash's skill level is above Bonjwa level, I think granting the title "Bonjwa" to Flash is quite insulting. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On July 20 2012 11:43 Xiphos wrote: Kinda wish that OSL would still be in BW so that JB can get his golden mouse afterward... Kinda wish that OSL would still be in BW so that Fanta can get his golden mouse afterward... | ||
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
I have no idea how he does it but his wraiths were at the right spots so damn often, denying dropships, threatening tanks and being really annoying. Then he obliterates the doom drop - the one that Flash used successfully in PL finals - and shuts down most of the other dropship plays while inflicting absurd losses. Game 2's bottom left SCV denial and awesome Dmatrix use were nice bonuses. I wish there was a Resources Lost indicator. I still slightly hate that this wasn't a finals. FvF so good. *edit* Hahaha the background on page 113 | ||
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INTOtheVOID
United States225 Posts
 Anyway, fantasy played amazing, I wish there was some tally of the amount of dropships Flash lost in game 1, those Wraiths were worth their weight in gold. | ||
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Motivate
2860 Posts
On July 20 2012 12:53 _Quasar_ wrote: Finals are gonna be a bit easier for Fanta this time, as there is no Shitfinder. A lot of people argued that shitfinder was terran favoured, but P started to win a lot on it near the end iirc. Is this because carriers are good on that map? | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:08 Ciryandor wrote: He is serious. My goodness, I love the game and the scene, and the guy's got a point. Can't we just agree to disagree on this one? I will just link to a far superior article to explain why savior was THE bonjwa, no one even called boxer or iloveoov by that name till savior coined it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226236 Srsly, 12 ZvT series wins in a row against ridiculously hard opponents, probably the hardest roster BW has EVER seen (boxer, midas, nada, iloveoov, hwasin), 12-0, no one has beat that yet. 6 finals in a row. 75% win rate on longinus 2 and reverse temple (while other zergs had 25%). Go win ONE game on longinus 2 / reverse temple as zerg against terran then come and tell me savior doesn't have achievements. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 20 2012 01:59 ]343[ wrote: Whoa, interesting. I've never heard that before, but it makes some vague sort of sense; sounds like something an official/magistrate might say (complete with haughty tone and funny walk). Yes, everyone in China calls him 马 本座 (ma bonjwa), 座 can also mean throne (of a king), i.e. someone occupying the title, also meaning that only one person can occupy it at one time. Also in China no one calls the other players (boxer, iloveoov, nada, flash) bonjwa, it's a name reserved for savior. Often people also make joke names of X 本, putting the first letter or enunciation of a name in place of X. Like 傻本 | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
On July 19 2012 23:08 Ciryandor wrote: He is serious. My goodness, I love the game and the scene, and the guy's got a point. Can't we just agree to disagree on this one? Anyone's welcome to doubt Savior's skill. It just means they did not understand how Starcraft is played during the 2005-2007 time period. | ||
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ppshchik
United States862 Posts
On July 20 2012 14:46 Motivate wrote: A lot of people argued that shitfinder was terran favoured, but P started to win a lot on it near the end iirc. Is this because carriers are good on that map? Pathfinder just rewards Fantasy's heavy dropship harass style as shown in the Bacchus OSL finals vs Stork. The narrow cliffs rewards siege tank drops, but also rewards carriers as well due to close air distances and cliffs to dodge goliath vision. Jangbi just put on tons of risks on those maps by going 12 nexus to 2 base carriers. | ||
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Vazze
Sweden279 Posts
On July 20 2012 15:04 Caihead wrote: I will just link to a far superior article to explain why savior was THE bonjwa, no one even called boxer or iloveoov by that name till savior coined it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226236 Srsly, 12 ZvT series wins in a row against ridiculously hard opponents, probably the hardest roster BW has EVER seen (boxer, midas, nada, iloveoov, hwasin), 12-0, no one has beat that yet. 6 finals in a row. 75% win rate on longinus 2 and reverse temple (while other zergs had 25%). Go win ONE game on longinus 2 / reverse temple as zerg against terran then come and tell me savior doesn't have achievements. Man that article is so good. Anyone knows if Ver is working on the second part? | ||
HawaiianPig
Canada5155 Posts
On July 20 2012 16:07 Vazze wrote: Man that article is so good. Anyone knows if Ver is working on the second part? It's in the pipe | ||
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Vazze
Sweden279 Posts
What does that mean? I honestly don't know. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=In the pipe Does this mean it's on its way? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 20 2012 15:04 Caihead wrote: I will just link to a far superior article to explain why savior was THE bonjwa, no one even called boxer or iloveoov by that name till savior coined it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=226236 Srsly, 12 ZvT series wins in a row against ridiculously hard opponents, probably the hardest roster BW has EVER seen (boxer, midas, nada, iloveoov, hwasin), 12-0, no one has beat that yet. 6 finals in a row. 75% win rate on longinus 2 and reverse temple (while other zergs had 25%). Go win ONE game on longinus 2 / reverse temple as zerg against terran then come and tell me savior doesn't have achievements. The Red Sniper doesn't even belong on that list of Terrans. Sorry but he is no where even near them. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On July 20 2012 16:58 StarStruck wrote: The Red Sniper doesn't even belong on that list of Terrans. Sorry but he is no where even near them. Hwasin carried a 73.5%+ win rate against zerg from 2005 to 2006, I think that's worth noting. | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
On July 20 2012 14:32 INTOtheVOID wrote: People saying savior didn't have any real accomplishments? Umm... I actually recall reading somewhere that his awards and honorary achievements were revoked after what he did. So he officially does not have any titles to his name. | ||
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