• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:22
CET 00:22
KST 08:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled11Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1434 users

tving OSL Ro8 Day 4 - Fantasy vs soo - Page 35

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 45 Next All
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 03 2012 13:00 GMT
#681
On July 03 2012 21:59 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:59 Caihead wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 letian wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:56 Motivate wrote:
how are people saying soo fked that up?

mass mutas will get owned by MnM/wraiths. it's just a matter of time.

Thank you cap


So the soo's decision making process after seeing 2 port wraith is to.
1. make more mutas
2. make more mutas
3. ???

IM JAEDONG LOOK IM JAEDONG oh shit


augh seriously, why didn't soo just stop mutas and make sunkens/1 spore at each base, just, why
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#682
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?

He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#683
On July 03 2012 21:58 Hazzyboy wrote:
soO lost when he decided to open with a muta harass and 99% of Zergs would do that vs a T. No way mutas can kill wraiths and hydra switch was late when he saw wraiths.

Continuing to produce lings would have won, methinks, but it's a difficult choice to make since soo had only 2 hatcheries' worth of larva
but with fantasy's walls getting broken and no vulture speed (or even machine shop) that could have done it
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#684
On July 03 2012 21:59 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?


They are hard to micro and less mobile

+expensive and die easily

He probably didn't want to spend that extra money on the armory either.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#685
good god, does soo really have 476 apm?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#686
On July 03 2012 22:01 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?

He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.


dahhhhh if hes in a position to attack sunkens with wraiths im pretty sure he's won any way
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#687
On July 03 2012 22:01 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?

He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.

You also have to wait a long time for valks - +armory/+control tower
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#688
On July 03 2012 22:00 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:59 bgx wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:59 Caihead wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 letian wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:56 Motivate wrote:
how are people saying soo fked that up?

mass mutas will get owned by MnM/wraiths. it's just a matter of time.

Thank you cap


So the soo's decision making process after seeing 2 port wraith is to.
1. make more mutas
2. make more mutas
3. ???

IM JAEDONG LOOK IM JAEDONG oh shit


augh seriously, why didn't soo just stop mutas and make sunkens/1 spore at each base, just, why

He is not really top ZvTer and he was nervous given he put 6 drones on gas ...
Stork[gm]
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#689
On July 03 2012 22:01 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:59 Mortician wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?


They are hard to micro and less mobile

+expensive and die easily

He probably didn't want to spend that extra money on the armory either.

also 2 scourge will destroy a valk in small numbers, its extremly high risk.
WriterXiao8~~
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18605 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#690
So terrans dont do wallins because it costs what 100 minerals more in the long run?
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#691
On July 03 2012 22:01 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 22:01 Hazzyboy wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?

He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.

You also have to wait a long time for valks - +armory/+control tower

To be fair he did already have the control tower for cloak though.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#692
On July 03 2012 22:01 arb wrote:
good god, does soo really have 476 apm?

Still not a hyuk, I'm afraid.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#693
On July 03 2012 21:58 Chrisboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:56 Motivate wrote:
how are people saying soo fked that up?

mass mutas will get owned by MnM/wraiths. it's just a matter of time.

Then why did he make nothing but mutas?

maybe, but people still thought soo was ahead once he committed to mass muta

tbh i hate this dated 2 hatch mass muta play. you're not jaedong, don't try.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#694
Oh come on soo, don't let the nerves get to you like this. (well, they already have, but w/e)
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#695
On July 03 2012 22:02 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 22:00 Caihead wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:59 bgx wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:59 Caihead wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 letian wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:56 Motivate wrote:
how are people saying soo fked that up?

mass mutas will get owned by MnM/wraiths. it's just a matter of time.

Thank you cap


So the soo's decision making process after seeing 2 port wraith is to.
1. make more mutas
2. make more mutas
3. ???

IM JAEDONG LOOK IM JAEDONG oh shit


augh seriously, why didn't soo just stop mutas and make sunkens/1 spore at each base, just, why

He is not really top ZvTer and he was nervous given he put 6 drones on gas ...

He's definitely nervous
and yeah, he's not a top ZvT'er, either.
but nowadays nobody is spectacular ZvT
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#696
How did soO got into the ro8 again?
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#697
come on soo win a game
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 03 2012 13:04 GMT
#698
On July 03 2012 22:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
How did soO got into the ro8 again?


over stork >_>
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
July 03 2012 13:04 GMT
#699
On July 03 2012 22:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
How did soO got into the ro8 again?

By playing his best matchup
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 03 2012 13:04 GMT
#700
On July 03 2012 22:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
How did soO got into the ro8 again?

how did he make ro4 last season?
Prev 1 33 34 35 36 37 45 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
20:00
S22 - Ladder Tour #1
ZZZero.O107
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 315
PiGStarcraft200
Nathanias 111
JuggernautJason68
Ketroc 64
Nina 63
ROOTCatZ 39
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10984
ZZZero.O 107
Backho 56
Dota 2
monkeys_forever355
canceldota36
LuMiX1
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox766
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor299
Other Games
summit1g10017
FrodaN4709
Grubby4368
KnowMe351
crisheroes218
mouzStarbuck197
ArmadaUGS79
ViBE35
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2397
ComeBackTV 210
BasetradeTV79
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 44
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki12
• RayReign 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21448
League of Legends
• Doublelift4514
• Scarra945
Other Games
• imaqtpie1377
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 38m
RSL Revival
10h 38m
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
12h 38m
Patches Events
17h 38m
BSL
20h 38m
Replay Cast
1d
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Wardi Open
1d 12h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Team League
2 days
GSL
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.