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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 03 2012 13:00 GMT
#681
On July 03 2012 21:59 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:59 Caihead wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 letian wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:56 Motivate wrote:
how are people saying soo fked that up?

mass mutas will get owned by MnM/wraiths. it's just a matter of time.

Thank you cap


So the soo's decision making process after seeing 2 port wraith is to.
1. make more mutas
2. make more mutas
3. ???

IM JAEDONG LOOK IM JAEDONG oh shit


augh seriously, why didn't soo just stop mutas and make sunkens/1 spore at each base, just, why
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#682
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?

He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#683
On July 03 2012 21:58 Hazzyboy wrote:
soO lost when he decided to open with a muta harass and 99% of Zergs would do that vs a T. No way mutas can kill wraiths and hydra switch was late when he saw wraiths.

Continuing to produce lings would have won, methinks, but it's a difficult choice to make since soo had only 2 hatcheries' worth of larva
but with fantasy's walls getting broken and no vulture speed (or even machine shop) that could have done it
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#684
On July 03 2012 21:59 Mortician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?


They are hard to micro and less mobile

+expensive and die easily

He probably didn't want to spend that extra money on the armory either.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#685
good god, does soo really have 476 apm?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#686
On July 03 2012 22:01 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?

He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.


dahhhhh if hes in a position to attack sunkens with wraiths im pretty sure he's won any way
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 03 2012 13:01 GMT
#687
On July 03 2012 22:01 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?

He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.

You also have to wait a long time for valks - +armory/+control tower
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#688
On July 03 2012 22:00 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:59 bgx wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:59 Caihead wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 letian wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:56 Motivate wrote:
how are people saying soo fked that up?

mass mutas will get owned by MnM/wraiths. it's just a matter of time.

Thank you cap


So the soo's decision making process after seeing 2 port wraith is to.
1. make more mutas
2. make more mutas
3. ???

IM JAEDONG LOOK IM JAEDONG oh shit


augh seriously, why didn't soo just stop mutas and make sunkens/1 spore at each base, just, why

He is not really top ZvTer and he was nervous given he put 6 drones on gas ...
Stork[gm]
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#689
On July 03 2012 22:01 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:59 Mortician wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?


They are hard to micro and less mobile

+expensive and die easily

He probably didn't want to spend that extra money on the armory either.

also 2 scourge will destroy a valk in small numbers, its extremly high risk.
WriterXiao8~~
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18743 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#690
So terrans dont do wallins because it costs what 100 minerals more in the long run?
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#691
On July 03 2012 22:01 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 22:01 Hazzyboy wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 BlindKill wrote:
another noob question: why didnt fantasy make valkries? arent those AoE anti air ( played campaign when i was like 7)?

He needed invisibility from Wraiths and ground attack to kill lings harass or sunkens.

You also have to wait a long time for valks - +armory/+control tower

To be fair he did already have the control tower for cloak though.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
July 03 2012 13:02 GMT
#692
On July 03 2012 22:01 arb wrote:
good god, does soo really have 476 apm?

Still not a hyuk, I'm afraid.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#693
On July 03 2012 21:58 Chrisboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 21:56 Motivate wrote:
how are people saying soo fked that up?

mass mutas will get owned by MnM/wraiths. it's just a matter of time.

Then why did he make nothing but mutas?

maybe, but people still thought soo was ahead once he committed to mass muta

tbh i hate this dated 2 hatch mass muta play. you're not jaedong, don't try.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#694
Oh come on soo, don't let the nerves get to you like this. (well, they already have, but w/e)
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#695
On July 03 2012 22:02 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2012 22:00 Caihead wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:59 bgx wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:59 Caihead wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:57 letian wrote:
On July 03 2012 21:56 Motivate wrote:
how are people saying soo fked that up?

mass mutas will get owned by MnM/wraiths. it's just a matter of time.

Thank you cap


So the soo's decision making process after seeing 2 port wraith is to.
1. make more mutas
2. make more mutas
3. ???

IM JAEDONG LOOK IM JAEDONG oh shit


augh seriously, why didn't soo just stop mutas and make sunkens/1 spore at each base, just, why

He is not really top ZvTer and he was nervous given he put 6 drones on gas ...

He's definitely nervous
and yeah, he's not a top ZvT'er, either.
but nowadays nobody is spectacular ZvT
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#696
How did soO got into the ro8 again?
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 03 2012 13:03 GMT
#697
come on soo win a game
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
July 03 2012 13:04 GMT
#698
On July 03 2012 22:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
How did soO got into the ro8 again?


over stork >_>
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
July 03 2012 13:04 GMT
#699
On July 03 2012 22:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
How did soO got into the ro8 again?

By playing his best matchup
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
July 03 2012 13:04 GMT
#700
On July 03 2012 22:03 Black[CAT] wrote:
How did soO got into the ro8 again?

how did he make ro4 last season?
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