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X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 24 2012 07:35 GMT
#281
On June 24 2012 16:33 HighTemper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:29 X10A wrote:
Was that like their match on opening day? TT
Makes me want to get drunk and watch K.Air OSL season 1 finals

Mind if I join? I'd buy the whisky...

Hell, lets watch the tie breaker group from that night.
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
June 24 2012 07:35 GMT
#282
Out of TLBS Flash is still the best, but compared to the rest now - TLBS is not even average. Of course I am not judging this because this game. It's my general impression so far. Hopefully they will become strong again.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 24 2012 07:36 GMT
#283
It occurs to me that both of the Flash/Effort games had Flash play greedy, Effort making a sensible response (playing hilariously greedy opening day, doing an all-in now), and Flash being caught off-guard.

Dude needs to improve his scouting :|
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
June 24 2012 07:38 GMT
#284
On June 24 2012 16:36 Ribbon wrote:
It occurs to me that both of the Flash/Effort games had Flash play greedy, Effort making a sensible response (playing hilariously greedy opening day, doing an all-in now), and Flash being caught off-guard.

Dude needs to improve his scouting :|

its not scouting... just bad execution of build.. and the hellions are for scouting.. but he chased lings to his main = /
sGs.Stregon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States161 Posts
June 24 2012 07:38 GMT
#285
Flash needs to just retire.. He is hurting his legacy more than helping it at this point.. The fact is he started playing ScToo to late in the game, and at a point were Terrans have been nerfed into meaninglessness.. Even top Terrans who have played since beta are having a rediculously hard time winning right now, and it doesnt appear to be changing anytime soon.
Sc:Bw4Life ; 14+ years, aint gunna stop
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 24 2012 07:38 GMT
#286
On June 24 2012 16:32 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Oh dear, 2 match I watch Flash, Flash lose both times.


Same here. I've seen his two PL Star2 games, and they're worse than me playing...
Support your esport!
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
June 24 2012 07:39 GMT
#287
On June 24 2012 16:32 memcpy wrote:
Effort is really impressing me in sc2. I bet he would have won that mlg tourney easily.



Of all the programers making the transition to SC2 Effort has the edge from what i have seen. Has he been focusing on SC2 longer than the others?
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
June 24 2012 07:39 GMT
#288
On June 24 2012 16:23 Ribbon wrote:
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On June 24 2012 16:22 TheShimmy wrote:
SC2 matchups are foreign and I dont really consider many of them as entertaining just yet. TvT is just weird (bio vs bio???) and PvP is atrocious. ZvP and ZvZ are more fun SC2 matchups to watch. Especially ZvZ. Its not so much of a toss up or BO matchup. SC2 ZvZ offers a lot more diversity in play styles.


I've heard people calling ZvZ the best SC2 matchup at top levels recently, but I haven't seen any tip-top ZvZs in a while, so I don't know.

Flash going 14CC, obviously. I think it's actually safer in SC2 than it is in BW.


It's actually a really greedy play and he got punished for it. 1 rax FE is alot safer than what Flash has been doing. Suprised his opponents havent been punishing it more. Doing some type of CC first works when your not playing a Bo1 and you know your opponent likes to play greedy and you want to play a macro game with him.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
June 24 2012 07:39 GMT
#289
On June 24 2012 16:35 jaQi wrote:
Out of TLBS Flash is still the best, but compared to the rest now - TLBS is not even average. Of course I am not judging this because this game. It's my general impression so far. Hopefully they will become strong again.


Wad is TLBS?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
June 24 2012 07:39 GMT
#290
On June 24 2012 16:39 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:32 memcpy wrote:
Effort is really impressing me in sc2. I bet he would have won that mlg tourney easily.



Of all the programers making the transition to SC2 Effort has the edge from what i have seen. Has he been focusing on SC2 longer than the others?


He played it during his time when he was retired.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 24 2012 07:41 GMT
#291
FlaSh, your lack of tanks is disturbing.
Support your esport!
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
June 24 2012 07:41 GMT
#292
On June 24 2012 16:39 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:35 jaQi wrote:
Out of TLBS Flash is still the best, but compared to the rest now - TLBS is not even average. Of course I am not judging this because this game. It's my general impression so far. Hopefully they will become strong again.


Wad is TLBS?


Sorry, of course I mean TBLS :D
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 24 2012 07:41 GMT
#293
On June 24 2012 16:39 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:35 jaQi wrote:
Out of TLBS Flash is still the best, but compared to the rest now - TLBS is not even average. Of course I am not judging this because this game. It's my general impression so far. Hopefully they will become strong again.


Wad is TLBS?

TaekBangLeeSang
Stands for Bisu Stork Jaedong and Flash
Taek for Bisu
Bang as a nickname for Stork I believe
Lee Sang meaning two Lee, Lee JaeDong and Lee YoungHo
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 24 2012 07:42 GMT
#294
I'm so sleepy TT
Action
vs
Protoss
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-24 07:43:32
June 24 2012 07:43 GMT
#295
My 4th favourite zerg is Action now , but i want CJ to win for the sake of the ACE match and CJ winning .
vanhio
Profile Joined November 2010
Niue1017 Posts
June 24 2012 07:43 GMT
#296
12min max roach gogogogogo
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
June 24 2012 07:43 GMT
#297
On June 24 2012 16:38 sGs.Stregon wrote:
Flash needs to just retire.. He is hurting his legacy more than helping it at this point.. The fact is he started playing ScToo to late in the game, and at a point were Terrans have been nerfed into meaninglessness.. Even top Terrans who have played since beta are having a rediculously hard time winning right now, and it doesnt appear to be changing anytime soon.

Wow, as much as I don't like SCtoo, I wouldn't say that until Kespa completely switch to SCtoo. Just wait till OSL is over, Flash will roflstomp left and right.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1323 Posts
June 24 2012 07:43 GMT
#298
On June 24 2012 16:38 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2012 16:32 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Oh dear, 2 match I watch Flash, Flash lose both times.


Same here. I've seen his two PL Star2 games, and they're worse than me playing...


Yes, I'm sure you're high grand master.
nope
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
June 24 2012 07:44 GMT
#299
On June 24 2012 16:38 sGs.Stregon wrote:
Flash needs to just retire.. He is hurting his legacy more than helping it at this point.. The fact is he started playing ScToo to late in the game, and at a point were Terrans have been nerfed into meaninglessness.. Even top Terrans who have played since beta are having a rediculously hard time winning right now, and it doesnt appear to be changing anytime soon.



Are you just trolling? Lol?

Wait until after the first ALL SC2 OSL and first ALL SC2 PL. The PLers will have a plethora of S class players. I dont see the problems with terrans winning either? Plenty are doing well in the NASL and GSL.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
June 24 2012 07:44 GMT
#300
On June 24 2012 16:38 sGs.Stregon wrote:
Flash needs to just retire.. He is hurting his legacy more than helping it at this point.. The fact is he started playing ScToo to late in the game, and at a point were Terrans have been nerfed into meaninglessness.. Even top Terrans who have played since beta are having a rediculously hard time winning right now, and it doesnt appear to be changing anytime soon.


Not to get into a balance whine thread, but Terran couldn't beat Protoss back in April, and they managed to work that out.

Terrans don't know how to open aggressively right now, and Zerg are playing greedier than they should be able to in response. I'm sure that'll be fixed soon enough.

And, anyway, I've yet to see an SPL player do the 6 queen opening GSL terrans are sad about.

Okay, a ZvP. That's not too...aw, it's hero[join], of the hilarious opening day game.
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