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On June 24 2012 16:27 J1.au wrote:
You guys have got to explain for SC2 newbies like me. ><
Flash opened with a very greedy opening that doesn't really hit its stride until about 10 mins - it's a 3 CC, fast upgrade build. Effort scouted it, and chose an extremely aggressive 2 base all-in, which crushed Flash. In order to hold that build he would have needed banshees or tanks, but neither of those options allows for much ability to attack until deeper into the game, as opposed to the bio/hellion build which would have given Flash alot of agency if he hadn't died.
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Good game in my opinion .
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On June 24 2012 16:29 X10A wrote:
Was that like their match on opening day? TT
Makes me want to get drunk and watch K.Air OSL season 1 finals
well on that day flash kinda just turtled for 15 mins against effort. lemme tell you how that ended
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I'm actually miffed at Effort. Yes, all-inning a guy who plays super-greedy is smart, but it also robs us of a Flash/Effort macro game. What about MY needs, Effort?
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On June 24 2012 16:29 DMXD wrote:
Effort is like the only zerg that punish Flash for being geedy as hell.
I have two accounts in gm with terran, I use that opener all the time.. its a MKP opener and it can defend roach/bane all ins all day..
on that map 6 hellions is good.. but he didn;t transfer the factory to the techlab rax and get tanks as fast as he could have after the hellions.. he also got only 1 bunker behind his other..he executed the build incorrectly = /
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I'll just pretend that Flash has been busy practicing real TvZ to be sure to beat Shine.
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On June 24 2012 16:18 HighTemper wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 16:15 Mortality wrote:
BW is such a better game to watch IMO. I think some fans would probably say TvT is better in SC2, but to them I say: Flash vs Fantasy. Oh c'mon, we don't need S-class to enjoy TvT. Leta, Bogus, FBH, skyHigh (when he was good) all play pretty enjoyable TvTs. OMFG, GOD VS MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With the exception of Bogus, all those players were at one point S-class in TvT so...
Personally, I'm a huge fan of TvT. Always have been. Sometimes it does get a bit boring if the wrong 2 players are involved and there was that period back when TvT was dominated by the likes of Canata where everyone was just building tank lines and splitting the map into hour long BC-fests, but on the whole I love the match-up.
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Oh dear, 2 match I watch Flash, Flash lose both times. 
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Effort is really impressing me in sc2. I bet he would have won that mlg tourney easily.
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Opposition between Effort and FLash proceeds....!!Next Time Flash...((((((
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On June 24 2012 16:30 Fission wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 16:27 J1.au wrote:
You guys have got to explain for SC2 newbies like me. >< Flash opened with a very greedy opening that doesn't really hit its stride until about 10 mins - it's a 3 CC, fast upgrade build. Effort scouted it, and chose an extremely aggressive 2 base all-in, which crushed Flash. In order to hold that build he would have needed banshees or tanks, but neither of those options allows for much ability to attack until deeper into the game, as opposed to the bio/hellion build which would have given Flash alot of agency if he hadn't died.
Thanks, explained a lot. 
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On June 24 2012 16:31 Ribbon wrote:
I'm actually miffed at Effort. Yes, all-inning a guy who plays super-greedy is smart, but it also robs us of a Flash/Effort macro game. What about MY needs, Effort?
All he does is win, give him a break.
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On June 24 2012 16:30 Sawamura wrote:
Good game in my opinion .
Whine moar butthurt man PLS
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On June 24 2012 16:29 X10A wrote:
Was that like their match on opening day? TT
Makes me want to get drunk and watch K.Air OSL season 1 finals
No, that game Flash played super-passive and Effort got 80 drones before taking any gasses or something silly like that.
This game Flash opened super-greedy, then didn't scout an all-in response from Effort. He could've saved himself by better scouting.
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On June 24 2012 16:29 X10A wrote:
Was that like their match on opening day? TT
Makes me want to get drunk and watch K.Air OSL season 1 finals
Mind if I join? I'd buy the whisky...
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On June 24 2012 16:31 Ribbon wrote:
I'm actually miffed at Effort. Yes, all-inning a guy who plays super-greedy is smart, but it also robs us of a Flash/Effort macro game. What about MY needs, Effort?
Well CJ will most likely win the SC2 so he will come out for the ACE match to redeem himself .
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On June 24 2012 16:33 vanhio wrote:Whine moar butthurt man PLS
^_^ okay I am butthurt my life is over ....
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On June 24 2012 16:33 raga4ka wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 16:31 Ribbon wrote:
I'm actually miffed at Effort. Yes, all-inning a guy who plays super-greedy is smart, but it also robs us of a Flash/Effort macro game. What about MY needs, Effort? Well CJ will most likely win the SC2 so he will come out for the ACE match to redeem himself .
that or he'll lose in 5 minutes again ;_;
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On June 24 2012 16:33 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 16:29 X10A wrote:
Was that like their match on opening day? TT
Makes me want to get drunk and watch K.Air OSL season 1 finals No, that game Flash played super-passive and Effort got 80 drones before taking any gasses or something silly like that. This game Flash opened super-greedy, then didn't scout an all-in response from Effort. He could've saved himself by better scouting.
Maybe it is Flash nature not to scout . too bad today his sense fail him
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On June 24 2012 16:30 Fission wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 16:27 J1.au wrote:
You guys have got to explain for SC2 newbies like me. >< Flash opened with a very greedy opening that doesn't really hit its stride until about 10 mins - it's a 3 CC, fast upgrade build. Effort scouted it, and chose an extremely aggressive 2 base all-in, which crushed Flash. In order to hold that build he would have needed banshees or tanks, but neither of those options allows for much ability to attack until deeper into the game, as opposed to the bio/hellion build which would have given Flash alot of agency if he hadn't died.
Yeah, Zergs are getting wise to Terrans 3 CC opening strat. They know there will be no Tanks or Bashees so go Roach and Baneling to bust their way in.
Terrans need to mix it up a bit
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