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Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 22 2012 00:43 GMT
#321
On June 22 2012 09:39 s9_IU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 03:24 pebble444 wrote:
Yes maps can be repeated maybe next time it will change. Losers pick gives the advantage to the underdog, thats why i picked it. Nevertheless the underdog has to be wise and prepare strategies for maps he thinks or knows his opp don' t like or play, which not everybody does. And it does tend to be repetitive on maps


just making this clear same maps can be repeated then??? say i lose first game i pick FS next.... i lose again i pick FS again.... i win.... nagisama ppicks FS???? just making this clear kinda dont understand clearly yet....


PS nagisma we playing tommorrow at 2-3 pm EST so we have enough time for u to play and u not pressured i can make it that time good with you ??? ill be on around that time

ok sure.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
s9_IU
Profile Joined October 2011
57 Posts
June 22 2012 06:06 GMT
#322
On June 22 2012 09:43 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 09:39 s9_IU wrote:
On June 22 2012 03:24 pebble444 wrote:
Yes maps can be repeated maybe next time it will change. Losers pick gives the advantage to the underdog, thats why i picked it. Nevertheless the underdog has to be wise and prepare strategies for maps he thinks or knows his opp don' t like or play, which not everybody does. And it does tend to be repetitive on maps


just making this clear same maps can be repeated then??? say i lose first game i pick FS next.... i lose again i pick FS again.... i win.... nagisama ppicks FS???? just making this clear kinda dont understand clearly yet....


PS nagisma we playing tommorrow at 2-3 pm EST so we have enough time for u to play and u not pressured i can make it that time good with you ??? ill be on around that time

ok sure.


lol im really sorry about this im stupid.... ive been saying EST the whole time when i live in different time zone in usa.... the confirmed time is probably 330 - 4pm EST <<<< that is correct i doubled checked... once again im sorry
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
June 22 2012 06:58 GMT
#323
On June 22 2012 15:06 s9_IU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 09:43 Nagisama wrote:
On June 22 2012 09:39 s9_IU wrote:
On June 22 2012 03:24 pebble444 wrote:
Yes maps can be repeated maybe next time it will change. Losers pick gives the advantage to the underdog, thats why i picked it. Nevertheless the underdog has to be wise and prepare strategies for maps he thinks or knows his opp don' t like or play, which not everybody does. And it does tend to be repetitive on maps


just making this clear same maps can be repeated then??? say i lose first game i pick FS next.... i lose again i pick FS again.... i win.... nagisama ppicks FS???? just making this clear kinda dont understand clearly yet....


PS nagisma we playing tommorrow at 2-3 pm EST so we have enough time for u to play and u not pressured i can make it that time good with you ??? ill be on around that time

ok sure.


lol im really sorry about this im stupid.... ive been saying EST the whole time when i live in different time zone in usa.... the confirmed time is probably 330 - 4pm EST <<<< that is correct i doubled checked... once again im sorry

Use the [ time ] function man...
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 08:47:52
June 22 2012 08:30 GMT
#324
http://www.twitch.tv/theshimmybw

I'll be casting soon! The VODs of the cast will be up on my twitch!
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 13:56:43
June 22 2012 13:48 GMT
#325
On June 22 2012 15:06 s9_IU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2012 09:43 Nagisama wrote:
On June 22 2012 09:39 s9_IU wrote:
On June 22 2012 03:24 pebble444 wrote:
Yes maps can be repeated maybe next time it will change. Losers pick gives the advantage to the underdog, thats why i picked it. Nevertheless the underdog has to be wise and prepare strategies for maps he thinks or knows his opp don' t like or play, which not everybody does. And it does tend to be repetitive on maps


just making this clear same maps can be repeated then??? say i lose first game i pick FS next.... i lose again i pick FS again.... i win.... nagisama ppicks FS???? just making this clear kinda dont understand clearly yet....


PS nagisma we playing tommorrow at 2-3 pm EST so we have enough time for u to play and u not pressured i can make it that time good with you ??? ill be on around that time

ok sure.


lol im really sorry about this im stupid.... ive been saying EST the whole time when i live in different time zone in usa.... the confirmed time is probably 330 - 4pm EST <<<< that is correct i doubled checked... once again im sorry

I'll be on all day so it doesn't really matter that much. Although the correct notation is EDT since we're in daylight savings during the summer. EST is winter.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-22 15:03:23
June 22 2012 14:30 GMT
#326
On June 22 2012 17:30 TheShimmy wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/theshimmybw

I'll be casting soon! The VODs of the cast will be up on my twitch!

Thanks Shimmy!

@pebble: 4adun still hasn't replied to me about rescheduling, at this point the only time that will work for me is Sunday evening EDT or during the following week in the evenings. Please let him know if you see him because I will be afk for the weekend.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 22 2012 19:30 GMT
#327
Hey IU, I'll just be waiting in channel op despa so just meet there whenever you get back/ready.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
June 23 2012 01:11 GMT
#328
Trying so hard to cast!

My BW will not run in window mode, so I may have to just settle and get a fullscreen cast. I tried using Camtasia to make VODs but that was also a bust! Wish me luck and give me any recommendations you have.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
June 23 2012 09:51 GMT
#329
FOR THE SEMIFINALS AND FINALS:
+ Show Spoiler +


@jealous i have not heard from 4adun at all. Arca sent me a pm, and ewya as well.

If everybody still in the tournament agrees, i suggest to re-schedule everything, and have it semifinals next week-end, and finals the week-end after, saturday, same time as usual. It was a bad idea to have 3 rounds in 1 weeks time. This allows Arca and Ewya to play their match regulary, and 4adun to play his match vs jealous. let me all know what you think about this.
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Arca(Crema)
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain44 Posts
June 23 2012 09:56 GMT
#330
It's ideal for me :D
Thanks a lot pebble.
4Adun
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation8 Posts
June 23 2012 12:15 GMT
#331
On June 21 2012 13:32 Jealous wrote:
4Adun I sent you a PM and I posted here, please get back to me about rescheduling ):


Sorry, I was offline 3 days (20..22). Yesterday, I read your PM and answer. I wait for you all day today.
I'm ready to play today from now to 10 CEST and tomorrow too. Write date-time when you wish to play in PM.

On June 23 2012 18:51 pebble444 wrote:
FOR THE SEMIFINALS AND FINALS:
+ Show Spoiler +


@jealous i have not heard from 4adun at all. Arca sent me a pm, and ewya as well.

If everybody still in the tournament agrees, i suggest to re-schedule everything, and have it semifinals next week-end, and finals the week-end after, saturday, same time as usual. It was a bad idea to have 3 rounds in 1 weeks time. This allows Arca and Ewya to play their match regulary, and 4adun to play his match vs jealous. let me all know what you think about this.


Ok. No any questions.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 23 2012 13:27 GMT
#332
On June 23 2012 21:15 4Adun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 13:32 Jealous wrote:
4Adun I sent you a PM and I posted here, please get back to me about rescheduling ):


Sorry, I was offline 3 days (20..22). Yesterday, I read your PM and answer. I wait for you all day today.
I'm ready to play today from now to 10 CEST and tomorrow too. Write date-time when you wish to play in PM.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 18:51 pebble444 wrote:
FOR THE SEMIFINALS AND FINALS:
+ Show Spoiler +


@jealous i have not heard from 4adun at all. Arca sent me a pm, and ewya as well.

If everybody still in the tournament agrees, i suggest to re-schedule everything, and have it semifinals next week-end, and finals the week-end after, saturday, same time as usual. It was a bad idea to have 3 rounds in 1 weeks time. This allows Arca and Ewya to play their match regulary, and 4adun to play his match vs jealous. let me all know what you think about this.


Ok. No any questions.

So one person disagrees, does the vote have to be unanimous in order for it to go through?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
June 23 2012 14:04 GMT
#333
so, will the ro8 be casted today?
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
June 23 2012 14:20 GMT
#334
On June 23 2012 22:27 Eywa- wrote:

So one person disagrees, does the vote have to be unanimous in order for it to go through?


No. i need the approval of half or more of the players. It would be not good for the tournament if in the semifinals there would be a walk-over. If it where the RO8 then it wouldn' t be too much of a deal, but semis it would really suck.

On June 23 2012 23:04 ninini wrote:
so, will the ro8 be casted today?


Yes! I believe Fitz is casting the RO8 as we speak and i will cast as well at 18:00 GMT (+00:00)

Streams:

http://www.twitch.tv/pebble444

http://www.youtube.com/user/iCCupStarcraftTV/videos
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 23 2012 16:33 GMT
#335
Okay, so... Since this will be decided by a vote, I'd like to start the discussion. I need all players to post here ONE time only showing their point of view, don't reply to what anyone else is saying, simply show your perspective. Once this is done, we can have a confidential vote (so that no one is pressured to do anything) and see where the cards may fall. I suggest 75% minimum required vote for a change (more that 50%).

So, here is what I have to say about it... Honestly, it does prove better for me if the league format does not change, however, this has a minimal influence on the following.

This may be a rough read because I don't have the time to review it.

As a fellow league organizer, I can see how you would want to do such a thing simply to make the league as successful as possible. I have been in a situation similar to this in the Gambit's Cup where decisions had to be made and in the end, while it may have proved beneficial to the league to make last minute changes, it could not happen for the sole reason that both teams have even say and there is no reason for one team to go out of its way entirely to help another one out. Now, PP matches are already a part of the rules and I think, that honestly, if 1 week is not flexible enough for 1 match... I don't know what is. I know Gambit Cup they were fighting from a position where they had a whole lot less freedom than that, yet I still didn't sway. In the end, you have to ask yourself is this a league or a learning exercise. that being the same argument I often made about DRTL2.

There are however, still alternatives to rescheduling which I would like to consider after illustrating my viewpoint as a player. As a player in this tournament, I have gone out of my way to play matches... Last week, I was on a business trip, left work, went straight to the hotel, skipping out on supper, moved the furnishing in the room so I could get closer to the access point because the signal was god awful and played a Bo5 against Aeghrur, didn't complain for a second. Honestly, if you want to play BW, most likely, there's a way to play BW. I don't have a problem with rescheduling, but when moving an entire 2 rounds is discussed, I always get a bit edgy because I don't see how it's reasonable that the people don't have enough dedication to play a single game of BW all week.

I have a proposal which would also solve the problem of W.Os in the Semi-Final. Simply put, rather than reschedule the entire round as well as the finals, put the W.Os in the Ro8. If the players who are here can't find it in themselves to play one series this week, and can't even make an honest effort to do so, let their opponents from the Ro8 play.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
June 23 2012 17:25 GMT
#336
On June 23 2012 23:20 pebble444 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 22:27 Eywa- wrote:

So one person disagrees, does the vote have to be unanimous in order for it to go through?


No. i need the approval of half or more of the players. It would be not good for the tournament if in the semifinals there would be a walk-over. If it where the RO8 then it wouldn' t be too much of a deal, but semis it would really suck.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 23:04 ninini wrote:
so, will the ro8 be casted today?


Yes! I believe Fitz is casting the RO8 as we speak and i will cast as well at 18:00 GMT (+00:00)

Streams:

http://www.twitch.tv/pebble444

http://www.youtube.com/user/iCCupStarcraftTV/videos



We still use our YouTube channel to post all of our VODs but we do Live Stream now becasue I have the ability to do so now. My schedule is a little shaky like of specific times I'm going to cast today so I'm thinking between starting like 7 ~ 7:45ish EST.

Our Stream can be found here.
Master Chief
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2503 Posts
June 23 2012 19:30 GMT
#337
Btw sorry i am not casting, i' m not feeling to well. Its good that other casters are casting gogogo!!

Eywa if you want the walk over because your opponent cannot re-schedule whitin one week say it . Its your right as a player in the tournament. Pm if you don' t want to post it here. however it would be nice to have actual semifinals. There are 4 players involved. Don' t seem so difficult to me.



"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
Rlentless
Profile Joined January 2011
Hong Kong322 Posts
June 23 2012 19:53 GMT
#338
On June 23 2012 10:11 TheShimmy wrote:
Trying so hard to cast!

My BW will not run in window mode, so I may have to just settle and get a fullscreen cast. I tried using Camtasia to make VODs but that was also a bust! Wish me luck and give me any recommendations you have.

I believe you can automatically save vods using FMLE. In your panel options choose output. Then go look for save to file and enable it. It should save the VOD in flv in your root or default video folder.
Pucca
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Taiwan1280 Posts
June 23 2012 22:42 GMT
#339
On June 24 2012 04:53 Rlentless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2012 10:11 TheShimmy wrote:
Trying so hard to cast!

My BW will not run in window mode, so I may have to just settle and get a fullscreen cast. I tried using Camtasia to make VODs but that was also a bust! Wish me luck and give me any recommendations you have.

I believe you can automatically save vods using FMLE. In your panel options choose output. Then go look for save to file and enable it. It should save the VOD in flv in your root or default video folder.


The best way to do full screen casting is to use FRAPS however you have to pay for the program and you do not stream with it. Also you need a video editor to compress the file and to add w/e titles / overlays you are adding.

Master Chief
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
June 24 2012 02:19 GMT
#340
Where is panda, he needs to cast this.
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