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Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
June 17 2012 00:30 GMT
#241
On June 17 2012 09:24 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 08:20 pebble444 wrote:
@Babo yes you advance

here are results posted in the OP as well:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Slowbullets interesting analysis thanks for sharing it.

Holy shit, Essbee o_o + Show Spoiler +
gone :-/

oh wow + Show Spoiler +
IU takes revenge from last season
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10187 Posts
June 17 2012 01:01 GMT
#242
@Pebble: My stream link is www.twitch.tv/trappedinc

Thanks for the update my status in the tournament, I'm glad I get to keep playing.

@YouthSC: Sorry I've been MIA on setting up casting with you but I will be casting some Ro16 matches of my own so we should split the duties. I requested to cast Nagisama vs. uround, Essbee vs. IU, Aeghrur vs. floi, and Masss vs Eywa. Looking forward to seeing your cast!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
mSj[uRound]
Profile Joined May 2010
Latvia75 Posts
June 17 2012 02:54 GMT
#243
I think, that nagisama and Babo also could hit C-, but i see why they don't do that lol. It's 75$ (yeah, too big for this tournament)

Whay do you guys think?
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
June 17 2012 03:08 GMT
#244
No, nagi couldn't hit C- not even close
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
June 17 2012 03:11 GMT
#245
In the last week I was practicing for the match vs you, I've dropped to D- about 3-4 times, and only got 1300 max on iccup =\. Your call.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
June 17 2012 06:03 GMT
#246
I think having price money in a D-ranks tournament is a bad idea. Noone here is playing BW for money anyway.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 09:50:16
June 17 2012 07:53 GMT
#247
On June 17 2012 11:54 mSj[uRound] wrote:
I think, that nagisama and Babo also could hit C-, but i see why they don't do that lol. It's 75$ (yeah, too big for this tournament)

Whay do you guys think?

It is kind of lame for me to give a defense here but, I will do so again; Most active season I recently played (Jan/Feb) was 280+ games with 2365 final record. I don't think many more D+ person exists. I won 14-0 in the end of last season, won a few against people in DRTL (as in, part of my games for the tourney). I got 3rd place last time. I did hit C a year ago, this is true. If you guys think I am too good for this league, then I will leave. I just hope to give the spot to Gorg in my place if I were to be voted off or what not, since he missed his chance earlier in the tournament. If you have some sort of evidence or what not that would be good to see too, like rep analysis (would help me a lot I think ^^)

OH and after re-reading other posts I feel like 4-10 is pretty weak atm >>
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
mSj[uRound]
Profile Joined May 2010
Latvia75 Posts
June 17 2012 09:12 GMT
#248
I have such a habit, that after wvery game i check eapm of my opponent and mine, so after 6 months I have already collected statistics in my head about eapm and rank, about link between them. Espescially about protosses. Of course, it is not a rule, there are many exceptions, but not in the case of Babo and VirtUre or what his name was.
Normally, D+ protoss in pvt have 90-110 eapm (because they don't need more to win terrans lol). In PvP the same i think, because of similar mechanic and units in match-ups. Babo and VirtUre both had 125-130 average eapm. Most of D+ terran players don't have such an incredible speed, don't need to tell about protoss. Also, you just said, that you have hit C rank in past, so you have much more experience than D+ players, so you can win every one in this tournament, so it is not even a competition anymore.

I heard you want more numbers? Okay then!
Babo vs magic[wok] 114 vs 108 PvT
aeghur vs Babo 126 vs 131 ZvP (aeghur is suspiscious too lol)

Last season babo have been playing worse, except match vs obelisco, but whatever.
SO... I think players who have hit C- anywhen should not be allowed, do they?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 09:51:24
June 17 2012 09:31 GMT
#249
On June 17 2012 18:12 mSj[uRound] wrote:
I have such a habit, that after wvery game i check eapm of my opponent and mine, so after 6 months I have already collected statistics in my head about eapm and rank, about link between them. Espescially about protosses. Of course, it is not a rule, there are many exceptions, but not in the case of Babo and VirtUre or what his name was.
Normally, D+ protoss in pvt have 90-110 eapm (because they don't need more to win terrans lol). In PvP the same i think, because of similar mechanic and units in match-ups. Babo and VirtUre both had 125-130 average eapm. Most of D+ terran players don't have such an incredible speed, don't need to tell about protoss. Also, you just said, that you have hit C rank in past, so you have much more experience than D+ players, so you can win every one in this tournament, so it is not even a competition anymore.

I heard you want more numbers? Okay then!
Babo vs magic[wok] 114 vs 108 PvT
aeghur vs Babo 126 vs 131 ZvP (aeghur is suspiscious too lol)

Last season babo have been playing worse, except match vs obelisco, but whatever.
SO... I think players who have hit C- anywhen should not be allowed, do they?

My 'eapm' is 1a2a3a4a5a of the army accross the map in order to have constant vision of his own army movement. I saw it in a PvP rep once a long time ago and figured that it was a better idea than sedentary. I often do not reach 110 eapm on games that end quickly or do not have me in control of 5 control groups of units.. In the end eapm is also not everything; I lose to people with lower or equivalent eapm consistently and I only play at D rank.. Nagisama has 270 apm too, you know? Just because eapm says one thing it should not distract you from the poor macro and reaction time that are typical of D+ players like myself -_-

TL;DR: Why would by.hero lose to flash?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 12:11:08
June 17 2012 12:10 GMT
#250
On June 17 2012 18:12 mSj[uRound] wrote:
I have such a habit, that after wvery game i check eapm of my opponent and mine, so after 6 months I have already collected statistics in my head about eapm and rank, about link between them. Espescially about protosses. Of course, it is not a rule, there are many exceptions, but not in the case of Babo and VirtUre or what his name was.
Normally, D+ protoss in pvt have 90-110 eapm (because they don't need more to win terrans lol). In PvP the same i think, because of similar mechanic and units in match-ups. Babo and VirtUre both had 125-130 average eapm. Most of D+ terran players don't have such an incredible speed, don't need to tell about protoss. Also, you just said, that you have hit C rank in past, so you have much more experience than D+ players, so you can win every one in this tournament, so it is not even a competition anymore.

I heard you want more numbers? Okay then!
Babo vs magic[wok] 114 vs 108 PvT
aeghur vs Babo 126 vs 131 ZvP (aeghur is suspiscious too lol)

Last season babo have been playing worse, except match vs obelisco, but whatever.
SO... I think players who have hit C- anywhen should not be allowed, do they?

You can't really judge PvT on EAPM. Good mechanics alone can take you to D+, especially as protoss, but if you're playing high D+ and C- terrans, who can actually control their units pretty well, you can't rely on micro and macro mechanics anymore, because if the terran reads the game well and have good timing attacks, he will beat you no matter how fast you are. At that point strategy is much more important.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 17 2012 12:38 GMT
#251
Wait... Why has this all started again?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Cpt.beefy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Ireland799 Posts
June 17 2012 13:02 GMT
#252
OK!!
Stop the BS now. The smurfs have all been found. The ranks for next season will be revisited then, but not in the middle of a tournament.

The next person to start another flame war, will be getting my boot.
Our Beloved Geoff "inControl" Robinson.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 17 2012 14:18 GMT
#253
listen to Beefy!

+ Show Spoiler +
He does cool tricks+ Show Spoiler +
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Arca(Crema)
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain44 Posts
June 17 2012 14:44 GMT
#254
Hi
I'm travelling on Saturday 23rd and i won't be back until Friday so i need to postpone the game or to play it before.
I may be able to play from Sunday to Wednesday but i don't know, but i won´t be able to play on Saturday since i will be in the train.
The ideal thing would be playing the game before Saturday and I can whenever, i dont know if this is possible though.
I have to whisper or PM my opponent and ask him, am I wrong?
Puyi
Profile Joined November 2011
United States175 Posts
June 17 2012 15:51 GMT
#255
@arca from sunday to wednesday means this sunday to wednesday or next sunday to wednesday? june 20th wednesday sounds good for me. ill be free the whole day most likely. have any specific time in mind?
Arca(Crema)
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain44 Posts
June 17 2012 16:01 GMT
#256
@puyi
From Sunday to Wednesday means during my trip (Wednesday 24th) but its way better for me to play before, since im not sure i'll be able to play there cos i don't have a laptop.
So Wednesday is perfect for me and I think will be free the whole day. I usually sleep from 3:00PM to 1:00AM CEST more or less but i can change that a little without problem, so you can choose the hour.
Thanks and glhf
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
June 17 2012 16:24 GMT
#257
@ Aeghrur

I think I'll have to reschedule our match, of course it's really too early to tell when, let me know when you can play it and I'll see if I can fit it in.

Sorry for the trouble.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Puyi
Profile Joined November 2011
United States175 Posts
June 17 2012 16:28 GMT
#258
god i hate time zones t.t so idk if i converted this right. but i think that means you sleep from 9am to 7pm at my time (live in New York EST)

i hate to ask but if possible could we meet at 3:30pm CEST. thats usually the time when i wake up and finish breakfast. its as early as i can do.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 16:34:42
June 17 2012 16:34 GMT
#259
On June 18 2012 01:28 Puyi wrote:
god i hate time zones t.t so idk if i converted this right. but i think that means you sleep from 9am to 7pm at my time (live in New York EST)

i hate to ask but if possible could we meet at 3:30pm CEST. thats usually the time when i wake up and finish breakfast. its as early as i can do.

Just use the
[time] [/time]
feature.
330pm cest would be 13:30 GMT (+00:00)
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Arca(Crema)
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain44 Posts
June 17 2012 17:52 GMT
#260
Hahaha sry i fucked up everything xD
i sleep from 3:00Am to 1:00Pm
Sorry :s
so we can play whenever you want from the time u said to the next seven hours or so.
Just choose :D
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