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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
May 19 2012 01:57 GMT
#41
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^Beauty and the Beast^, but with less Disney Fairytale and more arranged marriage.

But whatever happens, SKT hwaiting!
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 19 2012 02:10 GMT
#42
On May 19 2012 10:44 Ribbon wrote:
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On May 19 2012 08:13 BearStorm wrote:
I really hope watching this gives me a huge change of heart, because the alternative is massive dissappointment.


From what replays etc we've seen, BW pros play SC2 at around the level of mid-tier foreign SC2 pros. Impressive for like a month of hard practice with smatterings of play before, but....ugh.

And then no one's playing much BW lately...

I'm really hoping this won't be 'Mediocre BW followed by flat-out bad SC2", but it's probably the most likely outcome

Edit: I like that the SC2 version of this thread has an explanation sections of BW, even if it's not yet filled out. A corresponding intro to SC2 here....may be a bad idea.

I know Pokebunny was ~B in BW, but does Sayle know SC2?


I've only seen Firebathero and Flash replays, and Flash was mediocre. Were there other replays I missed?
MMA: The true King of Wings
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
May 19 2012 02:14 GMT
#43
This couldnt happen soon enough!
BSOD
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
May 19 2012 02:14 GMT
#44
On May 19 2012 11:10 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I've only seen Firebathero and Flash replays, and Flash was mediocre. Were there other replays I missed?

Flash rolled KawaiiRice pretty badly when Flash had only been playing for 1-2 weeks. Maybe I'm alone in thinking we're going to get to see some pretty good SC2 tonight, and maybe even an innovation or two.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
May 19 2012 02:18 GMT
#45
On May 19 2012 11:14 pigmanbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:10 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I've only seen Firebathero and Flash replays, and Flash was mediocre. Were there other replays I missed?

Flash rolled KawaiiRice pretty badly when Flash had only been playing for 1-2 weeks. Maybe I'm alone in thinking we're going to get to see some pretty good SC2 tonight, and maybe even an innovation or two.


Well, KawaiiRice is a mid-level foreigner (with lag? I'm not sure if the Korean server is the best ping for him). The 20+ minutegame was hardly a roll.
MMA: The true King of Wings
pigmanbear
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Angola2010 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 02:29:03
May 19 2012 02:27 GMT
#46
On May 19 2012 11:18 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:14 pigmanbear wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:10 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I've only seen Firebathero and Flash replays, and Flash was mediocre. Were there other replays I missed?

Flash rolled KawaiiRice pretty badly when Flash had only been playing for 1-2 weeks. Maybe I'm alone in thinking we're going to get to see some pretty good SC2 tonight, and maybe even an innovation or two.


Well, KawaiiRice is a mid-level foreigner (with lag? I'm not sure if the Korean server is the best ping for him). The 20+ minutegame was hardly a roll.

What was notable about that game was how smooth Flash's 14 CC opening was, and how there was really no time where KR had an advantage. If Flash was that good after just a little time playing, his play must be pretty good by now.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
May 19 2012 03:08 GMT
#47
Brood War Hwaiting =_="
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
May 19 2012 03:09 GMT
#48
Lets just all be excited that the Proleague as we know it (sort of) lives on in an unfamiliar form! KeSPA surely could use the support so I'll be watching a cheering on for the BW and SC2 games alike.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1323 Posts
May 19 2012 03:13 GMT
#49
I think this is the beginning of Jaedong's end.
I just have this gut feeling.. PROVE ME WRONG JD <3
nope
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
May 19 2012 03:17 GMT
#50
Bisuuuuuu!
Kinda excited to see how this is gonna turn out to be honest, hopefully mixing the two games doesnt make it so they half practice both and as a result show mediocre games in both games.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 03:32:00
May 19 2012 03:29 GMT
#51
On May 19 2012 11:18 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:14 pigmanbear wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:10 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I've only seen Firebathero and Flash replays, and Flash was mediocre. Were there other replays I missed?

Flash rolled KawaiiRice pretty badly when Flash had only been playing for 1-2 weeks. Maybe I'm alone in thinking we're going to get to see some pretty good SC2 tonight, and maybe even an innovation or two.


Well, KawaiiRice is a mid-level foreigner (with lag? I'm not sure if the Korean server is the best ping for him). The 20+ minutegame was hardly a roll.


He later lost to Desrow, another mid-tier foreign pro. For how little time he's put in yet, it's really impressive, but in absolute terms of the games we'll be seeing tonight...I'm concerned. The only reason for an SC2 fan to watch Proleague of GSTL or IPTL is the draw of the Elephant in the Room, and if the BW pros don't deliver on that front, Proleague is in a lot of trouble, having alienated BW fans basically for nothing.

I am not impressed by Flash's TvP, based on my extensive experience of seeing a ladder game against Desrow (specifically, he was really passive as Terran, which is a pretty good way to lose as Terran in SC2; they need to do damage in the midgame because bio is the weakest late-game army). I think, if the games aren't good, Terrans going Mech in SC2 might also be a bit of a draw, just because it always seems to kind of work, and SC2 fans might be interested to see if BW pros can work the kinks out.

tl;dr: If there isn't at least one SC2 game that's really good or something not seen often in SC2 normally (good mech, carriers, etc), then KeSPA should be sweating. If there is, GOM should be sweating.

Edit: Oh wait, this isn't today?
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 19 2012 03:33 GMT
#52
Well, maybe the new SC2 fanbase will also get into Brood War with this format and then the legacy will be complete next year.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
May 19 2012 03:49 GMT
#53
My thoughts on this.

Yeblah!...

+ Show Spoiler +
yeah! + blah..
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
May 19 2012 03:53 GMT
#54
I've made the switch on Sc2 only because of this, better be reaaaaaaaaally good!

btw, yeah im enjoying sc2, although bw is still the better game. Why am I making the switch then? Because I followed the Kespa players since the very start and I want to follow them. I love watching as much as playing and Sc2 is unfortunately the future. Since watching a game I don't play isnt very fun, I gave it a chance and I like the game so far.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Terrestrialrage
Profile Joined February 2011
United States122 Posts
May 19 2012 04:17 GMT
#55
Having been watching SPL + OSL for a few years now and also watching SC2 religiously, I am really excited to see what the BW pros can bring to SC2. Will be really easy to identify any glaring flaws they have in their gameplay, however im somewhat pessimistic. I dont think the BW pros will be on GSL champion levels, but I am hoping to be proven wrong cuz I wanna see some damn good BW and SC2 games!
We need more Lemon Pledge....
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50754 Posts
May 19 2012 04:30 GMT
#56
On May 19 2012 12:29 Ribbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 11:18 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:14 pigmanbear wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:10 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I've only seen Firebathero and Flash replays, and Flash was mediocre. Were there other replays I missed?

Flash rolled KawaiiRice pretty badly when Flash had only been playing for 1-2 weeks. Maybe I'm alone in thinking we're going to get to see some pretty good SC2 tonight, and maybe even an innovation or two.


Well, KawaiiRice is a mid-level foreigner (with lag? I'm not sure if the Korean server is the best ping for him). The 20+ minutegame was hardly a roll.


He later lost to Desrow, another mid-tier foreign pro. For how little time he's put in yet, it's really impressive, but in absolute terms of the games we'll be seeing tonight...I'm concerned. The only reason for an SC2 fan to watch Proleague of GSTL or IPTL is the draw of the Elephant in the Room, and if the BW pros don't deliver on that front, Proleague is in a lot of trouble, having alienated BW fans basically for nothing.

I am not impressed by Flash's TvP, based on my extensive experience of seeing a ladder game against Desrow (specifically, he was really passive as Terran, which is a pretty good way to lose as Terran in SC2; they need to do damage in the midgame because bio is the weakest late-game army). I think, if the games aren't good, Terrans going Mech in SC2 might also be a bit of a draw, just because it always seems to kind of work, and SC2 fans might be interested to see if BW pros can work the kinks out.

tl;dr: If there isn't at least one SC2 game that's really good or something not seen often in SC2 normally (good mech, carriers, etc), then KeSPA should be sweating. If there is, GOM should be sweating.

Edit: Oh wait, this isn't today?


uhhh, that game against desrow was on may 6th...before the first FPVODs and the game against kawaiirice.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 19 2012 04:37 GMT
#57
On May 19 2012 08:45 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Where did you get the picture for SC2? Are those... firebats?

Before there were Marauders and Hellions, there used to be Firebats and Vipers (those old hover-tanks).

Then they re-skinned the Firebat to be a Marauder and gave the flamethrower to what would become the Hellion.

Apparently, the old SC2 alpha Firebats were supposed to tank like Marauders, but obviously wielded flamethrowers instead of concussive shells.

Just food for thought.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-19 05:53:01
May 19 2012 05:49 GMT
#58
On May 19 2012 13:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 12:29 Ribbon wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:18 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:14 pigmanbear wrote:
On May 19 2012 11:10 SarcasmMonster wrote:
I've only seen Firebathero and Flash replays, and Flash was mediocre. Were there other replays I missed?

Flash rolled KawaiiRice pretty badly when Flash had only been playing for 1-2 weeks. Maybe I'm alone in thinking we're going to get to see some pretty good SC2 tonight, and maybe even an innovation or two.


Well, KawaiiRice is a mid-level foreigner (with lag? I'm not sure if the Korean server is the best ping for him). The 20+ minutegame was hardly a roll.


He later lost to Desrow, another mid-tier foreign pro. For how little time he's put in yet, it's really impressive, but in absolute terms of the games we'll be seeing tonight...I'm concerned. The only reason for an SC2 fan to watch Proleague of GSTL or IPTL is the draw of the Elephant in the Room, and if the BW pros don't deliver on that front, Proleague is in a lot of trouble, having alienated BW fans basically for nothing.

I am not impressed by Flash's TvP, based on my extensive experience of seeing a ladder game against Desrow (specifically, he was really passive as Terran, which is a pretty good way to lose as Terran in SC2; they need to do damage in the midgame because bio is the weakest late-game army). I think, if the games aren't good, Terrans going Mech in SC2 might also be a bit of a draw, just because it always seems to kind of work, and SC2 fans might be interested to see if BW pros can work the kinks out.

tl;dr: If there isn't at least one SC2 game that's really good or something not seen often in SC2 normally (good mech, carriers, etc), then KeSPA should be sweating. If there is, GOM should be sweating.

Edit: Oh wait, this isn't today?


uhhh, that game against desrow was on may 6th...before the first FPVODs and the game against kawaiirice.


Oh, really? OOPS, my bad. I think it came out later, so I got confused. Disregard, I suck cocks, etc etc etc.

I'm still fairly pessimistic that the BW players will be particularly impressive in SC2 tomorrow. By the end of the season, maybe, but probably not tomorrow. I'd love to be proven wrong again this thread, though.

On May 19 2012 12:53 sM.Zik wrote:
I've made the switch on Sc2 only because of this, better be reaaaaaaaaally good!

btw, yeah im enjoying sc2, although bw is still the better game. Why am I making the switch then? Because I followed the Kespa players since the very start and I want to follow them. I love watching as much as playing and Sc2 is unfortunately the future. Since watching a game I don't play isnt very fun, I gave it a chance and I like the game so far.


It is what it is ("Decent", IMO, with HotS likely to upgrade it to "pretty good"), and I hope the cross-pollination with BW for a lot of younger SC2 fans inspires them to be a bit more demanding of what they want out of the game. Which may or may not be what BW fans want, but still. (PLEASE don't start a vs thread here)

On May 19 2012 13:37 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2012 08:45 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Where did you get the picture for SC2? Are those... firebats?

Before there were Marauders and Hellions, there used to be Firebats and Vipers (those old hover-tanks).

Then they re-skinned the Firebat to be a Marauder and gave the flamethrower to what would become the Hellion.

Apparently, the old SC2 alpha Firebats were supposed to tank like Marauders, but obviously wielded flamethrowers instead of concussive shells.

Just food for thought.


Nitpick: The unit you're thinking of is called the Diamondback, and is useless even in the campaign. The Viper is the HotS version of the defiler
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
May 19 2012 06:03 GMT
#59
Liquibet Alert!

To vote for the Proleague matches - you have to go to the SC2 liquibet section!

Liquibet Alert!
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
googolplex
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States280 Posts
May 19 2012 06:19 GMT
#60
On May 19 2012 15:03 figq wrote:
Liquibet Alert!

To vote for the Proleague matches - you have to go to the SC2 liquibet section!

Liquibet Alert!

oh really wow. poor us bw fans. anyway we better prepare for it. there's a storm coming for us all.
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