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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 28 2012 05:58 GMT
#821
On April 28 2012 14:52 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 14:51 kakaman wrote:
On April 28 2012 14:48 Ryo wrote:
On April 28 2012 14:46 lexpoa wrote:
Shit.

Hope you're having lots of fun with SC2, JD.

It's not practicing SC2 that's the problem. Hyvaa is probably practicing SC2 as well.
Team 8 is just in dire straits.


You could argue that Team 8 has the most to gain from doing well in SC2, given that they still need a sponsor. I have no doubt JD is focusing most of his attention to SC2 these days.

According to the Coaches interview about SC2, STX has been practicing hardcore for SC2 for a while (the coach disputes the claim, the others insist). So we can't blame EVERYTHING on SC2.

Yup, STX engaged a former SC2 player as their coach last year. So they've been preparing for a long time now.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 28 2012 05:58 GMT
#822
Well, I'm out. I honestly have no emotional investment in either hyvaa or RorO, and I don't like ZvZ if I have no emotional investment in the match.

Jaedong's Ling micro was pretty awesome, and he did a noble job attempting to claw his way back from a BO disadvantage.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
April 28 2012 05:58 GMT
#823
On April 28 2012 14:53 moopie wrote:
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On April 28 2012 14:49 JWD wrote:
On April 28 2012 14:47 moopie wrote:
On April 28 2012 14:45 Masheyoon wrote:
Someone please explain how the hell Jaedong lost that battle?! =/

both were on 0-0 upgrades (jd really had no excuse there, he had an early lair and mutas), and jd stayed on 1 base way way too long, even though he didnt have to (he was on the offensive denying hyvaa's nat the entire game).

but JD knew his only shot was to keep even/ahead in mutas, and with only 5/6 drones on minerals it would have been really hard to do that and also save for the hatch...

right? at least that's my guess as to why he chose not to expand for so long

it's fucking JD, he must have had SOME thought process there...just curious what it was

I dunno, he had a huge advantage after the nat first went down. hyvaa was forced to turtle, didn't have a muta advantage to s he couldnt do much, and every time he tried to expand again jd took it out with ease.

JD had all the freedom in the world to take his nat, with absolutely no danger of losing it (or even needing sunkens/spores). He was just being stubborn, as JD tends to be often.

He also could have easily been 0-1 by then on the upgrades, which given the even muta supply would have meant him wiping the floor with hyvaa, but I guess he never bothered to start the upgrades.

I can't explain that loss, JD dropped the ball.

He had no advantage. hyvaa had better econ, more lings, and better def for mutas do do any damage. If only Jaedong risked some drones, he would have had a bertter muta count. And that final engagement was really bad.
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
April 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#824
On April 28 2012 14:52 [V] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 14:47 moopie wrote:
On April 28 2012 14:45 Masheyoon wrote:
Someone please explain how the hell Jaedong lost that battle?! =/

both were on 0-0 upgrades (jd really had no excuse there, he had an early lair and mutas), and jd stayed on 1 base way way too long, even though he didnt have to (he was on the offensive denying hyvaa's nat the entire game).

He had to be careful, he didnt know where the lings are, and commiting to hatch will make hyvaa attack. It was all good until that engagement. He should have known better that hyvaa had more because he was in 2 bases for a time.


Hyvaa didn't have his natural's gas.

So nope.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
April 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#825
Come on Roro!
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
April 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#826
well im out, not gonna botter with the last game
SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
April 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#827
0-2... Poor Jaedong, to miss out on the last OSL (perhaps, we can always hope) is a tragedy.
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
April 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#828
You can't blame Jaedong on that loss, it was a BO deficit that requires both amazing play and the opponent to make big mistakes. The first loss was inexcusable though.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
Le French
Profile Joined December 2011
France782 Posts
April 28 2012 06:00 GMT
#829
Nope. not gonna stay up for this garbage. Bye everyone. Cold beer is waiting for me.
Ca va?
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 28 2012 06:00 GMT
#830
I wish they had that repeat of Zero vs Calm series where 9p beat 12p twice. Wacky ZvZs. too bad it didn't happen.
☺
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 28 2012 06:00 GMT
#831
On April 28 2012 14:58 Turbovolver wrote:
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On April 28 2012 14:55 Caihead wrote:
If I see you posting the same things about Sea tomorrow... The man's had no results in forever

Given that most of my posting is a campaign against Overrated Players That Aren't Named Stork, you better hope I'm not in the thread >_>


I get the feeling lots of people like Sea just because he spoke a bit of English and posted to TL a few times. Which is pretty cool, but it's kind of jingoistic for that to be a reason to like a SC player.


I like Sea because of his wins vs Nal_ra and his marine medic use vs Boxer in TvT. You might as well call yourself a troll rather than rationalize it.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 28 2012 06:01 GMT
#832
On April 28 2012 14:59 Kazius wrote:
You can't blame Jaedong on that loss, it was a BO deficit that requires both amazing play and the opponent to make big mistakes. The first loss was inexcusable though.


He had plenty of chances to win afterwards.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
fYlddnaHturtDyaWdmAi
Profile Joined February 2012
Israel157 Posts
April 28 2012 06:01 GMT
#833
they should just 4pool each other now
"Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy. "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
April 28 2012 06:01 GMT
#834
I feel like JD is the type and will be taking this elimination really hard on himself. This can't be good for him at all
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 28 2012 06:01 GMT
#835
Roro orange zerg on 1
hyvaa teal zerg on 5 and scouting correctly
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 06:04:02
April 28 2012 06:01 GMT
#836
On April 28 2012 15:00 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 14:58 Turbovolver wrote:
On April 28 2012 14:55 Caihead wrote:
If I see you posting the same things about Sea tomorrow... The man's had no results in forever

Given that most of my posting is a campaign against Overrated Players That Aren't Named Stork, you better hope I'm not in the thread >_>


I get the feeling lots of people like Sea just because he spoke a bit of English and posted to TL a few times. Which is pretty cool, but it's kind of jingoistic for that to be a reason to like a SC player.


I like Sea because of his wins vs Nal_ra and his marine medic use vs Boxer in TvT. You might as well call yourself a troll rather than rationalize it.

You're too old school for me, stop having legitimate reasons ;_;


edit: I'm not rationalising anything, either. I said my posting is a campaign against overrated players and that's what it is. The players are overrated because they have innumerous and rabid fanboys, so of course posting things they don't like is going to come across as trolling. But if I was trolling, truly trying to rile things up, I would've gone back and quoted my thing about JD's last game being the realisation he was being outmicroed by Hyvaa, which happened in their muta fight.

Instead, I talked about how JD earned some respect from me with his manly play taking on a 12pool with 9pool (or overpool, whatever it was), and that I was rooting for him.
The original Bogus fan.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 28 2012 06:02 GMT
#837
Roro is screwed?
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 28 2012 06:02 GMT
#838
BO loss incoming. This is ...
what a way to finish a night.
☺
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
April 28 2012 06:03 GMT
#839
RorO's expression "well fuck"
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HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
April 28 2012 06:03 GMT
#840
Trololol ZvZ
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
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