On March 20 2012 19:19 Itachii wrote: REAVER GOES DOWN DONT TELL ME YOU WERENT MAKING ANOTHER ONE
summary of the series
Isn't it pretty hard to churn out stuff frequently from 6 gates & 1 robo on 2 bases, especially when your nat is razed? I recall the moment where the observer zoomed to Horang2's robo that wasn't building anything , he had only 70~80 ish gas
Yeah, but making a reaver should be his highest priority next to goons(that just died poorly microed) when it comes to his gas consumption while pumping more zealots with that 500+ banked minerals.
On March 21 2012 10:27 hellbound wrote: What's all this last game as BW team bullshit?
This. I wish people would just stuff it, and enjoy the BW without the negative conjecture crap.
Shame about this match though.. (
There's negative conjecture and then there's valid discussion. The end of the BW scene is a VERY real possibility seeing as LoL and SC2 are gaining ground while BW teams are disbanding. Players are switching over, MSL shutting down, no new rookies are being picked up and OSL has been delayed for 6 months. Even if it doesn't die - it's being watered down to the top teams and who cares about another Flash vs. Stork, really. Bisu hasn't had an heir to his throne and it's been 5 fucking years since he got it from Nal_ra. Same with Jaedong, same with Flash.
As for the CJ / KT games - I had higher hopes. Horang2 archons to swoop in on that critical timing to seal the win. Snow reaver's micro'd to perfection killing off an entire army piece by piece. Leta wraiths to rain down on workers from the sky while he sets up his favorite style and directs the flow of the game. Supreme commander no doubt. Effort lings and early busts halting any chance of a macro game. I saw it so vividly on game day. I felt it everywhere. CJ got this. The momentum created in day2 would carry on, everyone would perform clutch and KT, KHAN or SKT wouldn't be able to stop this CJ tidal wave. When I saw the results I was stunned. I watch the games but there's nothing that can explain what I'm watching. It's best forgotten. By Brood war fans and CJ fans alike. Horang2 played a great game vs. Flash showing how vulnerable he really is. Flash was a reaver away from death. At least we had Day2. Flash beat-down and Hydra drone rush. That'll last a while more =)
On March 21 2012 10:27 hellbound wrote: What's all this last game as BW team bullshit?
This. I wish people would just stuff it, and enjoy the BW without the negative conjecture crap.
Shame about this match though.. (
There's negative conjecture and then there's valid discussion. The end of the BW scene is a VERY real possibility seeing as LoL and SC2 are gaining ground while BW teams are disbanding. Players are switching over, MSL shutting down, no new rookies are being picked up and OSL has been delayed for 6 months. Even if it doesn't die - it's being watered down to the top teams and who cares about another Flash vs. Stork, really. Bisu hasn't had an heir to his throne and it's been 5 fucking years since he got it from Nal_ra. Same with Jaedong, same with Flash.
As for the CJ / KT games - I had higher hopes. Horang2 archons to swoop in on that critical timing to seal the win. Snow reaver's micro'd to perfection killing off an entire army piece by piece. Leta wraiths to rain down on workers from the sky while he sets up his favorite style and directs the flow of the game. Supreme commander no doubt. Effort lings and early busts halting any chance of a macro game. I saw it so vividly on game day. I felt it everywhere. CJ got this. The momentum created in day2 would carry on, everyone would perform clutch and KT, KHAN or SKT wouldn't be able to stop this CJ tidal wave. When I saw the results I was stunned. I watch the games but there's nothing that can explain what I'm watching. It's best forgotten. By Brood war fans and CJ fans alike. Horang2 played a great game vs. Flash showing how vulnerable he really is. Flash was a reaver away from death. At least we had Day2. Flash beat-down and Hydra drone rush. That'll last a while more =)
I like how when people's team lose, they claim that it was bad for Brood War and hurting e-sports.
I enjoyed tremendously the three series, than you. Someone who claims that Flash vs Horang2 wasn't an incredibly tense and beautiful game with the highest quality is just a bitter fan imo. That was everything one can expect from BW: revenge, sexy unusual build very hard to pull, surprise, incredible push, brilliant defense, hardcore contain almost broken, and finally, clean vitory from the better player.
On March 21 2012 10:27 hellbound wrote: What's all this last game as BW team bullshit?
This. I wish people would just stuff it, and enjoy the BW without the negative conjecture crap.
Shame about this match though.. (
There's negative conjecture and then there's valid discussion. The end of the BW scene is a VERY real possibility seeing as LoL and SC2 are gaining ground while BW teams are disbanding. Players are switching over, MSL shutting down, no new rookies are being picked up and OSL has been delayed for 6 months. Even if it doesn't die - it's being watered down to the top teams and who cares about another Flash vs. Stork, really. Bisu hasn't had an heir to his throne and it's been 5 fucking years since he got it from Nal_ra. Same with Jaedong, same with Flash.
As for the CJ / KT games - I had higher hopes. Horang2 archons to swoop in on that critical timing to seal the win. Snow reaver's micro'd to perfection killing off an entire army piece by piece. Leta wraiths to rain down on workers from the sky while he sets up his favorite style and directs the flow of the game. Supreme commander no doubt. Effort lings and early busts halting any chance of a macro game. I saw it so vividly on game day. I felt it everywhere. CJ got this. The momentum created in day2 would carry on, everyone would perform clutch and KT, KHAN or SKT wouldn't be able to stop this CJ tidal wave. When I saw the results I was stunned. I watch the games but there's nothing that can explain what I'm watching. It's best forgotten. By Brood war fans and CJ fans alike. Horang2 played a great game vs. Flash showing how vulnerable he really is. Flash was a reaver away from death. At least we had Day2. Flash beat-down and Hydra drone rush. That'll last a while more =)
I like how when people's team lose, they claim that it was bad for Brood War and hurting e-sports.
I enjoyed tremendously the three series, than you. Someone who claims that Flash vs Horang2 wasn't an incredibly tense and beautiful game with the highest quality is just a bitter fan imo. That was everything one can expect from BW: revenge, sexy unusual build very hard to pull, surprise, incredible push, brilliant defense, hardcore contain almost broken, and finally, clean vitory from the better player.
Except it wasn't. Flash used Turn's build which I didn't find interesting. Turn overreacted and did a spontaneous timing attack while Flash just stole it. The interesting part was how much better Horang2's defense was than Stats. Nevermind, KT troll. Go back under your bridge. Khan will rip you apart.
On March 21 2012 10:27 hellbound wrote: What's all this last game as BW team bullshit?
This. I wish people would just stuff it, and enjoy the BW without the negative conjecture crap.
Shame about this match though.. (
There's negative conjecture and then there's valid discussion. The end of the BW scene is a VERY real possibility seeing as LoL and SC2 are gaining ground while BW teams are disbanding. Players are switching over, MSL shutting down, no new rookies are being picked up and OSL has been delayed for 6 months. Even if it doesn't die - it's being watered down to the top teams and who cares about another Flash vs. Stork, really. Bisu hasn't had an heir to his throne and it's been 5 fucking years since he got it from Nal_ra. Same with Jaedong, same with Flash.
As for the CJ / KT games - I had higher hopes. Horang2 archons to swoop in on that critical timing to seal the win. Snow reaver's micro'd to perfection killing off an entire army piece by piece. Leta wraiths to rain down on workers from the sky while he sets up his favorite style and directs the flow of the game. Supreme commander no doubt. Effort lings and early busts halting any chance of a macro game. I saw it so vividly on game day. I felt it everywhere. CJ got this. The momentum created in day2 would carry on, everyone would perform clutch and KT, KHAN or SKT wouldn't be able to stop this CJ tidal wave. When I saw the results I was stunned. I watch the games but there's nothing that can explain what I'm watching. It's best forgotten. By Brood war fans and CJ fans alike. Horang2 played a great game vs. Flash showing how vulnerable he really is. Flash was a reaver away from death. At least we had Day2. Flash beat-down and Hydra drone rush. That'll last a while more =)
I like how when people's team lose, they claim that it was bad for Brood War and hurting e-sports.
I enjoyed tremendously the three series, than you. Someone who claims that Flash vs Horang2 wasn't an incredibly tense and beautiful game with the highest quality is just a bitter fan imo. That was everything one can expect from BW: revenge, sexy unusual build very hard to pull, surprise, incredible push, brilliant defense, hardcore contain almost broken, and finally, clean vitory from the better player.
Except it wasn't. Flash used Turn's build which I didn't find interesting. Turn overreacted and did a spontaneous timing attack while Flash just stole it. The interesting part was how much better Horang2's defense was than Stats. Nevermind, KT troll. Go back under your bridge. Khan will rip you apart.
Turn didn't even expand and the bunker was just to fake stats that he was going for your usual 1rax fe and Flash version of turn builds was much more economical and he can continue reinforcing his push even though it will fail at the first time . Turn builds was an all in and if he was not able to completely destroy stats in one single push, it's pretty much game over . It's your problem if you don't find it interesting however to me it's quite viable in the current modern tvp where greedy tosses go for fast third this timing push will immediately punish protoss who are playing very greedy at that time .
The interesting part on how horang2 defense was better because his observers were much more faster than stats and he had a lot of gateways from the starting point when stats is only going for 2 gate robo observer . Earlier scouting of the build gave horang2 much more time to react to what flash was doing and while stats despite valiantly attempting to slow the push his goon count was much lower than horang2 because of the lack of gateways .
Flash stole it yeah but he refined it and it become his build now . Flash 1 rax fe into bio mech and I don't see the point of calling people troll why do you need to be so sensitive ?
On March 23 2012 16:11 Slangen wrote: Did KT get mad or even? o_O
Only time i've ever seen flash get noticeably mad was during last playoffs when he lost against leta.
Everybody on KT including the coaches were like oh shit flash is angry. Honestly I wish that perfective had lost the next match so we could have seen how Flash would have handled the ACE match that day, the man was pissed.
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