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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 22 2012 11:53 GMT
#1741
On March 22 2012 20:32 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 15:17 DKing6297 wrote:
On March 20 2012 19:19 Itachii wrote:
REAVER GOES DOWN
DONT TELL ME YOU WERENT MAKING ANOTHER ONE


summary of the series
Isn't it pretty hard to churn out stuff frequently from 6 gates & 1 robo on 2 bases, especially when your nat is razed?
I recall the moment where the observer zoomed to Horang2's robo that wasn't building anything , he had only 70~80 ish gas

Yeah, but making a reaver should be his highest priority next to goons(that just died poorly microed) when it comes to his gas consumption while pumping more zealots with that 500+ banked minerals.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 22:45:46
March 22 2012 22:43 GMT
#1742
On March 22 2012 20:12 ImbaTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 10:27 hellbound wrote:
What's all this last game as BW team bullshit?

This. I wish people would just stuff it, and enjoy the BW without the negative conjecture crap.

Shame about this match though.. (

There's negative conjecture and then there's valid discussion. The end of the BW scene is a VERY real possibility seeing as LoL and SC2 are gaining ground while BW teams are disbanding. Players are switching over, MSL shutting down, no new rookies are being picked up and OSL has been delayed for 6 months. Even if it doesn't die - it's being watered down to the top teams and who cares about another Flash vs. Stork, really. Bisu hasn't had an heir to his throne and it's been 5 fucking years since he got it from Nal_ra. Same with Jaedong, same with Flash.

As for the CJ / KT games - I had higher hopes. Horang2 archons to swoop in on that critical timing to seal the win. Snow reaver's micro'd to perfection killing off an entire army piece by piece. Leta wraiths to rain down on workers from the sky while he sets up his favorite style and directs the flow of the game. Supreme commander no doubt. Effort lings and early busts halting any chance of a macro game. I saw it so vividly on game day. I felt it everywhere. CJ got this. The momentum created in day2 would carry on, everyone would perform clutch and KT, KHAN or SKT wouldn't be able to stop this CJ tidal wave. When I saw the results I was stunned. I watch the games but there's nothing that can explain what I'm watching. It's best forgotten. By Brood war fans and CJ fans alike. Horang2 played a great game vs. Flash showing how vulnerable he really is. Flash was a reaver away from death. At least we had Day2. Flash beat-down and Hydra drone rush. That'll last a while more =)
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8213 Posts
March 22 2012 23:07 GMT
#1743
On March 23 2012 07:43 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 20:12 ImbaTosS wrote:
On March 21 2012 10:27 hellbound wrote:
What's all this last game as BW team bullshit?

This. I wish people would just stuff it, and enjoy the BW without the negative conjecture crap.

Shame about this match though.. (

There's negative conjecture and then there's valid discussion. The end of the BW scene is a VERY real possibility seeing as LoL and SC2 are gaining ground while BW teams are disbanding. Players are switching over, MSL shutting down, no new rookies are being picked up and OSL has been delayed for 6 months. Even if it doesn't die - it's being watered down to the top teams and who cares about another Flash vs. Stork, really. Bisu hasn't had an heir to his throne and it's been 5 fucking years since he got it from Nal_ra. Same with Jaedong, same with Flash.

As for the CJ / KT games - I had higher hopes. Horang2 archons to swoop in on that critical timing to seal the win. Snow reaver's micro'd to perfection killing off an entire army piece by piece. Leta wraiths to rain down on workers from the sky while he sets up his favorite style and directs the flow of the game. Supreme commander no doubt. Effort lings and early busts halting any chance of a macro game. I saw it so vividly on game day. I felt it everywhere. CJ got this. The momentum created in day2 would carry on, everyone would perform clutch and KT, KHAN or SKT wouldn't be able to stop this CJ tidal wave. When I saw the results I was stunned. I watch the games but there's nothing that can explain what I'm watching. It's best forgotten. By Brood war fans and CJ fans alike. Horang2 played a great game vs. Flash showing how vulnerable he really is. Flash was a reaver away from death. At least we had Day2. Flash beat-down and Hydra drone rush. That'll last a while more =)

I like how when people's team lose, they claim that it was bad for Brood War and hurting e-sports.

I enjoyed tremendously the three series, than you. Someone who claims that Flash vs Horang2 wasn't an incredibly tense and beautiful game with the highest quality is just a bitter fan imo. That was everything one can expect from BW: revenge, sexy unusual build very hard to pull, surprise, incredible push, brilliant defense, hardcore contain almost broken, and finally, clean vitory from the better player.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
March 23 2012 05:19 GMT
#1744
On March 23 2012 08:07 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 07:43 Emon_ wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:12 ImbaTosS wrote:
On March 21 2012 10:27 hellbound wrote:
What's all this last game as BW team bullshit?

This. I wish people would just stuff it, and enjoy the BW without the negative conjecture crap.

Shame about this match though.. (

There's negative conjecture and then there's valid discussion. The end of the BW scene is a VERY real possibility seeing as LoL and SC2 are gaining ground while BW teams are disbanding. Players are switching over, MSL shutting down, no new rookies are being picked up and OSL has been delayed for 6 months. Even if it doesn't die - it's being watered down to the top teams and who cares about another Flash vs. Stork, really. Bisu hasn't had an heir to his throne and it's been 5 fucking years since he got it from Nal_ra. Same with Jaedong, same with Flash.

As for the CJ / KT games - I had higher hopes. Horang2 archons to swoop in on that critical timing to seal the win. Snow reaver's micro'd to perfection killing off an entire army piece by piece. Leta wraiths to rain down on workers from the sky while he sets up his favorite style and directs the flow of the game. Supreme commander no doubt. Effort lings and early busts halting any chance of a macro game. I saw it so vividly on game day. I felt it everywhere. CJ got this. The momentum created in day2 would carry on, everyone would perform clutch and KT, KHAN or SKT wouldn't be able to stop this CJ tidal wave. When I saw the results I was stunned. I watch the games but there's nothing that can explain what I'm watching. It's best forgotten. By Brood war fans and CJ fans alike. Horang2 played a great game vs. Flash showing how vulnerable he really is. Flash was a reaver away from death. At least we had Day2. Flash beat-down and Hydra drone rush. That'll last a while more =)

I like how when people's team lose, they claim that it was bad for Brood War and hurting e-sports.

I enjoyed tremendously the three series, than you. Someone who claims that Flash vs Horang2 wasn't an incredibly tense and beautiful game with the highest quality is just a bitter fan imo. That was everything one can expect from BW: revenge, sexy unusual build very hard to pull, surprise, incredible push, brilliant defense, hardcore contain almost broken, and finally, clean vitory from the better player.
Except it wasn't. Flash used Turn's build which I didn't find interesting. Turn overreacted and did a spontaneous timing attack while Flash just stole it. The interesting part was how much better Horang2's defense was than Stats. Nevermind, KT troll. Go back under your bridge. Khan will rip you apart.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
March 23 2012 05:41 GMT
#1745
On March 23 2012 14:19 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 08:07 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 23 2012 07:43 Emon_ wrote:
On March 22 2012 20:12 ImbaTosS wrote:
On March 21 2012 10:27 hellbound wrote:
What's all this last game as BW team bullshit?

This. I wish people would just stuff it, and enjoy the BW without the negative conjecture crap.

Shame about this match though.. (

There's negative conjecture and then there's valid discussion. The end of the BW scene is a VERY real possibility seeing as LoL and SC2 are gaining ground while BW teams are disbanding. Players are switching over, MSL shutting down, no new rookies are being picked up and OSL has been delayed for 6 months. Even if it doesn't die - it's being watered down to the top teams and who cares about another Flash vs. Stork, really. Bisu hasn't had an heir to his throne and it's been 5 fucking years since he got it from Nal_ra. Same with Jaedong, same with Flash.

As for the CJ / KT games - I had higher hopes. Horang2 archons to swoop in on that critical timing to seal the win. Snow reaver's micro'd to perfection killing off an entire army piece by piece. Leta wraiths to rain down on workers from the sky while he sets up his favorite style and directs the flow of the game. Supreme commander no doubt. Effort lings and early busts halting any chance of a macro game. I saw it so vividly on game day. I felt it everywhere. CJ got this. The momentum created in day2 would carry on, everyone would perform clutch and KT, KHAN or SKT wouldn't be able to stop this CJ tidal wave. When I saw the results I was stunned. I watch the games but there's nothing that can explain what I'm watching. It's best forgotten. By Brood war fans and CJ fans alike. Horang2 played a great game vs. Flash showing how vulnerable he really is. Flash was a reaver away from death. At least we had Day2. Flash beat-down and Hydra drone rush. That'll last a while more =)

I like how when people's team lose, they claim that it was bad for Brood War and hurting e-sports.

I enjoyed tremendously the three series, than you. Someone who claims that Flash vs Horang2 wasn't an incredibly tense and beautiful game with the highest quality is just a bitter fan imo. That was everything one can expect from BW: revenge, sexy unusual build very hard to pull, surprise, incredible push, brilliant defense, hardcore contain almost broken, and finally, clean vitory from the better player.
Except it wasn't. Flash used Turn's build which I didn't find interesting. Turn overreacted and did a spontaneous timing attack while Flash just stole it. The interesting part was how much better Horang2's defense was than Stats. Nevermind, KT troll. Go back under your bridge. Khan will rip you apart.


Turn didn't even expand and the bunker was just to fake stats that he was going for your usual 1rax fe and Flash version of turn builds was much more economical and he can continue reinforcing his push even though it will fail at the first time . Turn builds was an all in and if he was not able to completely destroy stats in one single push, it's pretty much game over . It's your problem if you don't find it interesting however to me it's quite viable in the current modern tvp where greedy tosses go for fast third this timing push will immediately punish protoss who are playing very greedy at that time .

The interesting part on how horang2 defense was better because his observers were much more faster than stats and he had a lot of gateways from the starting point when stats is only going for 2 gate robo observer . Earlier scouting of the build gave horang2 much more time to react to what flash was doing and while stats despite valiantly attempting to slow the push his goon count was much lower than horang2 because of the lack of gateways .

Flash stole it yeah but he refined it and it become his build now . Flash 1 rax fe into bio mech and I don't see the point of calling people troll why do you need to be so sensitive ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
March 23 2012 07:11 GMT
#1746
Did KT get mad or even? o_O
Fnatic - TSM - EG
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
March 23 2012 08:58 GMT
#1747
Don't hate the playa..hate the race! haha
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 09:04:03
March 23 2012 09:00 GMT
#1748
On March 23 2012 16:11 Slangen wrote:
Did KT get mad or even? o_O


Only time i've ever seen flash get noticeably mad was during last playoffs when he lost against leta.

Everybody on KT including the coaches were like oh shit flash is angry. Honestly I wish that perfective had lost the next match so we could have seen how Flash would have handled the ACE match that day, the man was pissed.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
March 23 2012 09:44 GMT
#1749
Effort 0 for 3 this series.

D:

I really wanted to see CJ do well.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
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