Snow, I know I might not love you as much as I do Movie. Especially over Facebook But win please <3 I should go back to posting on the CJ player's facebook pages to hopefully get them to win Last with his rax on the ground above his ramp Snow gate-gas-core Both players scouting incorrectly, Snow even going to be scouting cross positions first it seems WAIT proxy pylon from Snow at the 5 oclock 3rd
On March 11 2012 12:06 Xiphos wrote: I aboslutely love SK cultures. Not only they have male adolescent watching ESPORT, they have everyone from all genders, ages and ethnics.
there was a family beside me watching one of the games, the dad was teaching his son what the units did and what was going on
On March 11 2012 12:06 Xiphos wrote: I aboslutely love SK cultures. Not only they have male adolescent watching ESPORT, they have everyone from all genders, ages and ethnics.
there was a family beside me watching one of the games, the dad was teaching his son what the units did and what was going on
Last is just one lose behind Leta? Oh no, their even at 3rd according to the screen poop up Snow starting his own nat First fact just about done, and academy is being added Second fact now too Two goons hammering away at the bunker infront of the nat, 3 scvs pulled off
One tank on the low ground pokes at a goon, but it shuffles over continuing the harass of the bunker, but now it sems that the tank has seige and the goons pull back 3rd CC for Last in the main Robo and support bay are up for Snow, but Last scouts Ebay started right away
Turrets being added in now Mines being planted behind the nat mineral line Shuttle gets pushed away from the nat Snow going to attempt elevator? Looks like he was trying to go for it Not going to drop on top of the mines though Armory being added
One obs headed towards Last's main Citadel, and gates being added didn't get a count Last going to push out a bit from his nat 4 vultures run out from the main, and head towards Snow's expos to try and pick off probes A few are picked off from the transfer
77-91 supply in favor of Last Both players on 3 base now Archives and stargate are up, tribunal on the way I assume Speed shutlte is done GOing to run his shuttle into the main Only one scv goes down Reaver and shuttle stuck behind the main mineral line Dies before they can get away
8 facts to 8? gates 101-131 supply Last favored Snow expanding to the natural of 1 ocolck 0-1 upgrades for Last, 1-2 should kick in soon Snow's mineral wall at his 3rd is going down Probes pulled back already Arbiter on the way
On March 11 2012 12:15 Kiett wrote: Seriously? 6 SCVs surrounding his reaver, and he targets the one at the turret? -_-
He wanted to kill the turret cause he couldn't pick the reaver up without getting shot at.
Those SCVs were blocking that scarab from going through for ages. In that time, he could have easily killed the mob surrounding it, and then the turret.
Big engagement midmap Snow's forces getting pushed back towards 1 oclock Reaver micro from the single shutte there is pretty good Last just a-moving towards Snow's army 131-170 1 oclock is revealed, a few tanks and vultures peel off to take care of it Snow defending with reaver+DT+goons at the 1nat, but 2 tanks are still left to shell at the wall Arbiter going to recall in the nat of Last! DT's manage to pick off the tanks shelling the 1nat, but more units are piuring in The nat has no mining whatsoever, Last's
Arbiter heads to Last's 3rd to recall - some forces explode to mines, Last losing scvs but I don't think it'll matter he's sending more forces to attack Snow's 4th - dt dealing some damage - but scanned
Snow microing down the forces at 1nat, with his hero 14 kill reaver, but still more terran mech is coming in Snow rebuilding on the debris of his 3rd 144-157 More units being pulled to reinforce the push at 1nat Two reavers, from two shuttles are trying to push this, two reavers do a pretty good job, but one of them falls DT's being pumped constantly to try and break the push Snow's units sneak through the mine field and try to get damage done at the nat, but is unable too The 1 nat is no longer mining, and is going to go down soon REACLLU Nevermind, Snow let his arbiter die
1 main is broken now Two reavers and some gateway units defending Snow manages to clean up for the time being Hero reaver dies D= Snow pushes Last's nat again Only two tanks with the vulture/gol force 138-125 supply Snow favored! Last's supply is falling! Only goons left for Snow though 109-110 now
Finally no more units seem to be defending the 1 main But a round of zealots just pop out, and two goons seem to be stuck Snow's 1 oclock is going to fall it seems Snow going to push the weakened contain at his main area 97-117 supply Last favored
Mass vulture going to push back the goons Nexus going to come under fire at the 1 main 12.5 is scouted by a vulture, as the nexus starts Last on one base, Snow just about on one base Finally clearing out the minefield 12.5 is forced to cancel by mass vulture
109-151 supply Last favored ARbiter trying to get a recall off, at the 3rd Successful recall, but mainly goon, and inside the Terran's heavily fortified position 100-151 after all of that Snow trying to take 12.5 again
96-145 supply Last favored Snow's goons are melting like ice cream down to 77 supply Reaver dies to a surround of spider mines Tanks going to start to shell the 12.5, defensive recall Reavers manage to kill off the tanks in range, but nothing left but reavers to defend
why was last ahead in supply the whole game? it was like 90 to 75 when i first started paying attention to it. it's very rare to see a P so fully, ah, snowed vT
man cj really needs to win this cj needs to win khan needs to win woonjin needs to win and kt needs to lose then we can get some SKT vs KHAN finals! booyeah
On March 11 2012 12:31 Fenrax wrote: Can someone explain to me why Korean Progamer Terrans refuse to ever take a fourth base in TvP, NO MATTER WHAT.
I think it was the map.
Ye.
A 3rd is real easy for this map, but a 4th... Plus the Toss late army is so mobile, spending resources on trying to bash their faces in is usually more... effective? Compared to defending another, relatively distant, part of the map, of course
2 reasons I want CJ to lose so bad this time: - i don't like CJ (particularly effort) - if CJ lost, khan will 100% advance to play-off regardless of the result of their match against wongjing.
On March 11 2012 12:46 illidanx wrote: 2 reasons I want CJ to lose so bad this time: - i don't like CJ (particularly effort) - if CJ lost, khan will 100% advance to play-off regardless of the result of their match against wongjing.
I'm pretty sure reason number 2 holds for KT too right?
Lair morphing for both players Speed done for Hyvaa, but not for Effort? I can't ever tell Looks like both players going to go in with their lings to each other's main Both players losing drones like mad
On March 11 2012 12:46 illidanx wrote: 2 reasons I want CJ to lose so bad this time: - i don't like CJ (particularly effort) - if CJ lost, khan will 100% advance to play-off regardless of the result of their match against wongjing.
Stars will also have a much better chance of advancing
I had a little debbies snack and got up to get a 2nd one betting myself the zvz would be over before I even finished this 2nd one...the game ended moments after I sat down again...didn't even get to open it.
On March 11 2012 12:49 Soft`Soap wrote: effort really reminds me of a turtle
why is that? i think alien fits him quite right
I don't know whenever he comes out of the booth I just picture the 'tuuurtleee tuuurtleee' guy in a pretty old movie. I don't know the name of it and I never watched it (I think it was a spy movie) but the commercial played all the time lol.
On March 11 2012 12:49 Zona wrote: LOL CJ doesn't realize their mascot is fucking ugly and is still using it?
they don't listen to their foreign fans.
Koreans think the mascot is dogshit too.
the fact that you say dogshit means that its legit.
so why don't they get rid of onester?
Because someone inside CJ probably thought it was a good idea? Or it might have been chosen through the CJ fanclub or something. The general consensus among Korean Starcraft communities is a very resounding "wtf".
On March 11 2012 12:56 Kiante wrote: [오후 1:52:39] Andrew: do you find this mascot creepy [오후 1:52:39] Andrew: http://i.imgur.com/hBwOq.jpg [오후 1:55:07] Amy: haha no its cute!
according to a non-starcraft fan onester is....cute
On March 11 2012 12:56 Kiante wrote: [오후 1:52:39] Andrew: do you find this mascot creepy [오후 1:52:39] Andrew: http://i.imgur.com/hBwOq.jpg [오후 1:55:07] Amy: haha no its cute!
according to a non-starcraft fan onester is....cute
That settles it. We all have bad taste and the mascot is amazing.
Is that spittle-sounding CHGGGHAAAH sound part of the Korean language or just a thing that announcer does? I cringe every time I hear it. Sounds like he's gargling his saliva.
Armory up for Bogus Rax being chased out by a wraith 2 more facts being added for Bogus, 3 total Cloak researching Wraiths going to poke into Bogus' main mineral line, no going to camp the starport to wait for the valk that pops But the wraiths take some damage Pull back without losing any, maybe one and pew pew pewing at some tanks
Two valks out for Bogus 2nd fact is up for Leta, but it's making a machine shop Leta pushes back Bogus, before seige mode finishes Bogus' seige finishes first and then Leta pulls back
92-102 supply Bogus leading 2 more facts for Bogus, 3 total Bogus trying to take a 3rd at 3 oclock, Leta snipes the scv with vultures, and the second one Leta getting in some nice scv kills from the harass
4 valks for Bogus Leta going to push into Bogus' line with unsieged tanks, get a shot off, and then seige Supply dead even 118, and btoh players have a 3rd up and running 3rd port for Leta
On March 11 2012 13:15 Zona wrote: Leta moving south and a bit east with 6 or so tanks, Bogus with just 1 tank and a bunch of vultures there, has to back off
Bogus's depot placement in his main is so haphazard...
On March 11 2012 13:04 Hinanawi wrote: Is that spittle-sounding CHGGGHAAAH sound part of the Korean language or just a thing that announcer does? I cringe every time I hear it. Sounds like he's gargling his saliva.
It means like 'onwards' or 'anyways...' or 'lets see...' basically transitioning from talking to talking about the game and it's a part of the language but like all other caster-given dialogue it is highly enunciated.
This is what I recall from previous discussions on the subject, my own Korean is very weak.
Vulture warfare around the 9 oclock? 147-144 Leta-Bogus Bogus trying to pick away at Leta's tank line, but to no avail Bogus trying to inch up into shooting range of Leta's tanks Both player's with a sizable air fleet, but Bogus has one valk extra I think Bogus going to push Leta's middle siege line Leta's vultures going to harass the 3 oclock, and get off one scv kills
Wraiths pew pew pew at Bogus's tanks, valks take each other out, but Leta gets ahead from that engagement 156-136 Leta-Bogus after the harass and air engagement Leta pushing vulture into Bogus' nat, gets even more scv kills
Bogus advancing a large formation of tanks towards leta's tanks to the south...gains ground
vulture raid on Bogus's 3rd at 3 - scvs flee, vultures respond quickly
Leta's 5 wraiths attacking tanks ...Bogus scans and approaches with his valks, and wraiths later and now goliaths Leta with surviving valks but nobody has wraiths anymore I think?
Bogus has 5 oclock main, and just transferred a ton of scvs down there 152-146 Bogus going to press into Leta's forward tanks Leta going to counter that by pressing back Bogus' forces at teh bottom of the map Even more vultures pouring into the 5 oclock main, and killing more and more scvs Bogus down to 130 supply
0-2 for both players upgrades Dropships are in play now Leta protecting his with his air fleet, and looks like he is going to try and drop Bogus' main 3 dropships from Bogus to counter that, but Leta moves away at the last moment, and goes to drop at the 3 colock Vultures run through Bogus' tank line into the 5 oclock also Tons of scvs are going down
Leta goes to drop the main. Bogus drops to defend, Leta goes nope then just drops an expansion instead and does a vulture harass on another base too. Bogus defends but a little late.
163-91 Leta in the lead Bogus has literally 10 minerals right now Leta still has a tank at the 3 oclock, but it gets cleaned up Vultures still at the 5 oclock, so no mining there either Leta inching his was forward towards Bogus' nat
On March 11 2012 13:24 JIJIyO wrote: Holy fuck. WE GOT A MASCOT?!?!?!? THAT GUY IS THE BEST SHIT EVER. He even has a CJ face holy shit. CJ face mascot>Bunkie.
On March 11 2012 13:24 JIJIyO wrote: Holy fuck. WE GOT A MASCOT?!?!?!? THAT GUY IS THE BEST SHIT EVER. He even has a CJ face holy shit. CJ face mascot>Bunkie.
On March 11 2012 13:27 Soft`Soap wrote: what the hell are we watching now nanashin lol
Apparently it is called Stalker...
Probably better than that movie from a few weeks ago, with the rather graphic serial killer. >.>
I guess it's better than when we watch the stupid pirate crap my gf always looks at me like i'm some overgrown kindergarten whenever that stuff plays lol
On March 11 2012 13:33 Bagration wrote: What were they asking him?
Q - who uses wraiths best in the world?! <@Kimoleon> Q - Who is the cutest progamer?! <@nalho> A - Shin Sang moon <@nalho> A - Shin sang moon <+kjwcj> <3 <@lubbbbbem> <3 <@Kimoleon> Q - Who GETS ALL THE FAN POPULARITY OF ALL PROGAMER <@nalho> A - shin sang moon <3 <@rainei> haha <@Kimoleon> Q - Who is the miracle boy who will lead CJ TO VICTORY <@nalho> A - shin sang moon <3 <3
2nd cannon at the ant for Mini 6 lings just out of range, poke in to take one shot, but run straight back out Spire, and 4th and 5th hatches are on the way Citadel, archives and stargate are up
3 zealots 1 goon poke into Hydra's 3rd, but get forced back out by lings and a sunken Hydra den is up DT tries to sneak into the nat, but an overlord and hydras are tehir to deflect it
4 cannons at the front for Mini First HT manages to get away, just barely Speedlots going to push that the hydras at the nat Scourge eng up killing off, two, maybe 3 sairs not sure Hydra ling headed into Mini's nat Huge storm though, Zealot/HT is going to push back the hydras, and the overlords that were with them will fall to the +1 upgraded sairs 4th base for Hydra at 11.5
sairs find 2 ovies to kill 1 down, and the sairs flee as some scourge arrive...and stop and allow 2 sairs to be scourged and the other one also allows another scourge pair to destroy it
Zealots and one HT are pushing into Hydra's nat The one HT gets sniped, but the zealots are in the mineral line Zealots try to pull out, but only 5 of them get out Lurkers being morphed robo is up, and 5 gates are up also Shuttle going to drop, 8 zealots into Hydra's main Spire is going to get focused down, and a few drones are going to fall also Queens nest under fire, no, not its the lair
This guy mini definately shows promise, even tho he doesnt have the best record thus far, he always puts up very solid performances for his little experience
Lair morphing at the nat now Hydra going to deny a 3rd from Mini, but the goon/HT composition is going to be alot for Hydra to take on He manages to snipe a HT or two, and the obs though
Shuttle is still alive Going to head to the main again I think Yes!, more zealots going to get ferried in, as Mini tries to push. Drones are going to go down, to 8 zealots inside of the main Mroe is being ferried in Lings going to counter at Mini's 3rd base, but zealots and cannons are pretty good 56-122 supply
Nice to who called the Horang2 vs Calm. I'm looking forward to this matchup.. unless it involves Calm going for some sort of hydra bust. I have a 95% certainty he will attempt this though.
A lot of collective ineptitude. But CJ fans need not worry. After all, Stars is probably most well known for underachieving for years now. Perhaps this time they will again live up to their reputation.
On March 11 2012 14:15 Caihead wrote: I dont know how I feel about CJ being out of the play offs, just strange for such a deep team.
We are the kings of choke in team based leagues.
My team would like to say something about that, although I don't necessarily disagree that CJ is the Proleague choke king. Woongjin is more of a specialist in general choking.
On March 11 2012 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: A lot of collective ineptitude. But CJ fans need not worry. After all, Stars is probably most well known for underachieving for years now. Perhaps this time they will again live up to their reputation.
Then again, T8 3-0ed Khan...
it's so amazing to me that stars can make the playoffs despite the poor shape of zero/light/free. like fuck those 3 ARE stars.
On March 11 2012 14:15 Caihead wrote: I dont know how I feel about CJ being out of the play offs, just strange for such a deep team.
We are the kings of choke in team based leagues.
That must have hurt to joke about. ;;
Joke? It's the reality of the team lol. At least for the amount of time I've been watching them, the Skyhigh WL being the exception. I don't really count that since it wasn't an official PL win.
On March 11 2012 14:15 Caihead wrote: I dont know how I feel about CJ being out of the play offs, just strange for such a deep team.
We are the kings of choke in team based leagues.
My team would like to say something about that, although I don't necessarily disagree that CJ is the Proleague choke king. Woongjin is more of a specialist in general choking.
I'm not going to disagree with you there. Choke club is like CJ, Stars, Stx.
On March 11 2012 14:18 MountainDewJunkie wrote: A lot of collective ineptitude. But CJ fans need not worry. After all, Stars is probably most well known for underachieving for years now. Perhaps this time they will again live up to their reputation.
Then again, T8 3-0ed Khan...
it's so amazing to me that stars can make the playoffs despite the poor shape of zero/light/free. like fuck those 3 ARE stars.
Actually, Stars is really a 2 man team to me: Shy and Soulkey. Shy is a lovely replacement for deadweight free, but I do agree, Zero and Light are really responsible for the team's condition.
Man, can Calm win a game without cheesing? He should be called dirty zerg imo.. The way people play zvp recently is just depressing in general, I don't feel like a zerg fan anymore.
On March 11 2012 20:47 Elroi wrote: Man, can Calm win a game without cheesing? He should be called dirty zerg imo.. The way people play zvp recently is just depressing in general, I don't feel like a zerg fan anymore.
How is using the glitch trick to get in lurkers in to horang main a cheese ? Nal_Ra use to cannon rush people to death and people respect him for being bold and creative . Is that cheesy ? If you ask me no, however in this case horang2 didn't expect this to happen to him after all the one who is able to adapt wins and horang2 wasn't able to that .
It's purely calm's ability to mess around with the opponent head is one of his critical strengths and if it takes weird strategy to win your game than so be it .
On March 11 2012 20:47 Elroi wrote: Man, can Calm win a game without cheesing? He should be called dirty zerg imo.. The way people play zvp recently is just depressing in general, I don't feel like a zerg fan anymore.
How is using the glitch trick to get in lurkers in to horang main a cheese ? Nal_Ra use to cannon rush people to death and people respect him for being bold and creative . Is that cheesy ? If you ask me no, however in this case horang2 didn't expect this to happen to him after all the one who is able to adapt wins and horang2 wasn't able to that .
It's purely calm's ability to mess around with the opponent head is one of his critical strengths and if it takes weird strategy to win your game than so be it .
Its just boring to watch in the long run and it feels lame.. just like that series against Fanta (I think it was the one with the dancing BC) where I felt Calm just refused to play a real game against his opponent.
This is the old cheese debate that is never going to be settled though
On March 11 2012 20:47 Elroi wrote: Man, can Calm win a game without cheesing? He should be called dirty zerg imo.. The way people play zvp recently is just depressing in general, I don't feel like a zerg fan anymore.
How is using the glitch trick to get in lurkers in to horang main a cheese ? Nal_Ra use to cannon rush people to death and people respect him for being bold and creative . Is that cheesy ? If you ask me no, however in this case horang2 didn't expect this to happen to him after all the one who is able to adapt wins and horang2 wasn't able to that .
It's purely calm's ability to mess around with the opponent head is one of his critical strengths and if it takes weird strategy to win your game than so be it .
Because back then there was now such thing as cheese, nowadays for most people if you don't go into macro game boring standard play, its called cheese.
On March 11 2012 20:47 Elroi wrote: Man, can Calm win a game without cheesing? He should be called dirty zerg imo.. The way people play zvp recently is just depressing in general, I don't feel like a zerg fan anymore.
How is using the glitch trick to get in lurkers in to horang main a cheese ? Nal_Ra use to cannon rush people to death and people respect him for being bold and creative . Is that cheesy ? If you ask me no, however in this case horang2 didn't expect this to happen to him after all the one who is able to adapt wins and horang2 wasn't able to that .
It's purely calm's ability to mess around with the opponent head is one of his critical strengths and if it takes weird strategy to win your game than so be it .
Its just boring to watch in the long run and it feels lame.. just like that series against Fanta (I think it was the one with the dancing BC) where I felt Calm just refused to play a real game against his opponent.
This is the old cheese debate that is never going to be settled though
YOU think its boring to watch, I (yes I, im not saying its) find standard play 100% of the games boring and lame to watch.
GET A FUCKING GRIP, CJ!! I hope they can come back strong vs. Ace and secure a spot. None of the other teams stand a chance vs. CJ in the playoffs so all that's necessary is to slay the Airforce team and we're in the money.
On March 11 2012 23:26 Emon_ wrote: GET A FUCKING GRIP, CJ!! I hope they can come back strong vs. Ace and secure a spot. None of the other teams stand a chance vs. CJ in the playoffs so all that's necessary is to slay the Airforce team and we're in the money.
On March 11 2012 23:26 Emon_ wrote: GET A FUCKING GRIP, CJ!! I hope they can come back strong vs. Ace and secure a spot. None of the other teams stand a chance vs. CJ in the playoffs so all that's necessary is to slay the Airforce team and we're in the money.
Lolololz that's why CJ has been winning playoffs so often right? Oh wait...
On March 11 2012 23:26 Emon_ wrote: GET A FUCKING GRIP, CJ!! I hope they can come back strong vs. Ace and secure a spot. None of the other teams stand a chance vs. CJ in the playoffs so all that's necessary is to slay the Airforce team and we're in the money.
Lolololz that's why CJ has been winning playoffs so often right? Oh wait...
haha, this. CJ is a great team ON PAPER, but only Leta is really exciting right now. Neither Hydra or Effort have been performing up to expectations; Snow, Horang2, and Movie have been underachieving, and the rest of CJ is a combined.
CJ does have some good snipers for sure (Horang2 vP, Snow & Skyhigh vT), so if they get some really good matchups, they may be able to take down KT in the first round (assuming they beat ACE, which they probably will (although you never know... Any team could suddenly lose to ACE *COUGH* KT *COUGH*). Effort/Hydra vs. Stats would be good for CJ, as would Leta vs. any KT zerg, Horang2 vs. Perfectman, or Snow vs. Barracks.
It's also worth noting that CJ's choice of ace is debatable against KT. Both of CJ's Zerg aces have vT as their poorest matchup... if it does come down to an ace match against Flash on a Terran-favored map (since KT gets to pick the first and last ace match maps - probably Ground Zero, at 78.6% TvZ (11-3)), CJ would probably be better off sending Leta as their ace, even though Flash's best matchup is vT.
On March 12 2012 06:55 Hesmyrr wrote: Is anyone doing the winners interview for this? I'll probably try to translate it once again if no one else does for the next hour.
I'm guessing that the entire team got interviewed since it is the last game.
On March 12 2012 06:55 Hesmyrr wrote: Is anyone doing the winners interview for this? I'll probably try to translate it once again if no one else does for the next hour.
I'm guessing that the entire team got interviewed since it is the last game.
On March 11 2012 23:26 Emon_ wrote: GET A FUCKING GRIP, CJ!! I hope they can come back strong vs. Ace and secure a spot. None of the other teams stand a chance vs. CJ in the playoffs so all that's necessary is to slay the Airforce team and we're in the money.
Lolololz that's why CJ has been winning playoffs so often right? Oh wait...
haha, this. CJ is a great team ON PAPER, but only Leta is really exciting right now. Neither Hydra or Effort have been performing up to expectations; Snow, Horang2, and Movie have been underachieving, and the rest of CJ is a combined.
CJ does have some good snipers for sure (Horang2 vP, Snow & Skyhigh vT), so if they get some really good matchups, they may be able to take down KT in the first round (assuming they beat ACE, which they probably will (although you never know... Any team could suddenly lose to ACE *COUGH* KT *COUGH*). Effort/Hydra vs. Stats would be good for CJ, as would Leta vs. any KT zerg, Horang2 vs. Perfectman, or Snow vs. Barracks.
It's also worth noting that CJ's choice of ace is debatable against KT. Both of CJ's Zerg aces have vT as their poorest matchup... if it does come down to an ace match against Flash on a Terran-favored map (since KT gets to pick the first and last ace match maps - probably Ground Zero, at 78.6% TvZ (11-3)), CJ would probably be better off sending Leta as their ace, even though Flash's best matchup is vT.
Keep in mind that Stats has a winning record over both Hydra and Effort, if I were CJ coach I'd try to put Leta or Horang2 vs Stats who's the only I'd really put him even with
Leta's vT has been inspiring ever since spring of '11. He had a Bo3/5 series vs. another top Terran in the MSL / OSL (I think vs. Flash). Together with Skyhigh I think they worked on a lot of tactics and it's still working for him to this day. As for KT being a threat to CJ - not so much. Snow, Leta & Skyhigh can give Flash a run for his money any day. Seeing as he lost to Dear & Stardust, Snow has a nice chance to point a finger at the emperor with no clothes. KT Zergs are non-issue since CJ can deal with them with any race. What's left?
When CJ qualifies I'm hoping for the best possible match-ups. Effort/Hydra vs. Stats / Perfectman, Leta/ Skyhigh / Snow vs. Flash / Barracks, Horang 2 vs. P, Effort / Hydra vs. Z. Just something that's fun to watch. Skyhigh vs. Perfectman would be hilarious though
On March 11 2012 23:26 Emon_ wrote: GET A FUCKING GRIP, CJ!! I hope they can come back strong vs. Ace and secure a spot. None of the other teams stand a chance vs. CJ in the playoffs so all that's necessary is to slay the Airforce team and we're in the money.
Lolololz that's why CJ has been winning playoffs so often right? Oh wait...
haha, this. CJ is a great team ON PAPER, but only Leta is really exciting right now. Neither Hydra or Effort have been performing up to expectations; Snow, Horang2, and Movie have been underachieving, and the rest of CJ is a combined.
CJ does have some good snipers for sure (Horang2 vP, Snow & Skyhigh vT), so if they get some really good matchups, they may be able to take down KT in the first round (assuming they beat ACE, which they probably will (although you never know... Any team could suddenly lose to ACE *COUGH* KT *COUGH*). Effort/Hydra vs. Stats would be good for CJ, as would Leta vs. any KT zerg, Horang2 vs. Perfectman, or Snow vs. Barracks.
It's also worth noting that CJ's choice of ace is debatable against KT. Both of CJ's Zerg aces have vT as their poorest matchup... if it does come down to an ace match against Flash on a Terran-favored map (since KT gets to pick the first and last ace match maps - probably Ground Zero, at 78.6% TvZ (11-3)), CJ would probably be better off sending Leta as their ace, even though Flash's best matchup is vT.
Keep in mind that Stats has a winning record over both Hydra and Effort, if I were CJ coach I'd try to put Leta or Horang2 vs Stats who's the only I'd really put him even with
I don't know. I never remember Leta's vP to be all that good. (2-4 in the last year, with relatively unimpressive opposition. He did won against monstrous-form-Bisu last year though). Stats, despite being in poor form has always had rather good vT, and hes a Protoss. I ll say Stats has good chance vs Leta, and KT would probably wanna put Stats against Leta anw.
On March 12 2012 23:56 Emon_ wrote: Leta's vT has been inspiring ever since spring of '11. He had a Bo3/5 series vs. another top Terran in the MSL / OSL (I think vs. Flash). Together with Skyhigh I think they worked on a lot of tactics and it's still working for him to this day. As for KT being a threat to CJ - not so much. Snow, Leta & Skyhigh can give Flash a run for his money any day. Seeing as he lost to Dear & Stardust, Snow has a nice chance to point a finger at the emperor with no clothes. KT Zergs are non-issue since CJ can deal with them with any race. What's left?
When CJ qualifies I'm hoping for the best possible match-ups. Effort/Hydra vs. Stats / Perfectman, Leta/ Skyhigh / Snow vs. Flash / Barracks, Horang 2 vs. P, Effort / Hydra vs. Z. Just something that's fun to watch. Skyhigh vs. Perfectman would be hilarious though
I don't think Snow or Skyhigh can be considered to be able to "give Flash a run for his money" anymore (not many people can, mind.. But Snow or Skyhigh, imo, are even worse than those people (like Stork, Fanta, etc)..). Snow's vT is a thing of the past, as his recent games have been uninspiring at best. He almost lost to hOn_Sin this season (a bit better crisis management from Sin would have outright win him the game, if memory serves), and he lost to Last recently.. Neither of whom are impressive vP opponents.
Skyhigh's recent vT form is even worse, i think.
That leaves Leta, whos (imo) the clear best choice for Ace match. In a normal game though, CJ would probably want him to secure a win vs the Zergs, rather than siccing him on the Ultimate Weapon, who more likely than not would destroy him.
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