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On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed.
Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/
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gogo team 2, i bless you guys!
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On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/
Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player.
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On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player.
So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that.
We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right?
Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great.
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On March 06 2012 18:31 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player. So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that. We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right? Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great.
I'm just saying, if its that easy to get a top player to play twice, every team might as well do it.
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On March 06 2012 18:34 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 18:31 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player. So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that. We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right? Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great. I'm just saying, if its that easy to get a top player to play twice, every team might as well do it.
I'm just saying that it isn't that easy because the other team can always just say no. There were times last season where subs were disallowed by the other team. Also, you have to consider the fact that every person on the line-up WANTS to play, but sometimes there are altercations that can't be avoided, THAT is when subs are REQUESTED. If you're so desperate to win this league, go ahead and snub yourself or your teammates of games in favor of getting someone to play twice.
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On March 06 2012 18:48 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 18:34 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:31 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player. So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that. We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right? Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great. I'm just saying, if its that easy to get a top player to play twice, every team might as well do it. I'm just saying that it isn't that easy because the other team can always just say no. There were times last season where subs were disallowed by the other team. Also, you have to consider the fact that every person on the line-up WANTS to play, but sometimes there are altercations that can't be avoided, THAT is when subs are REQUESTED. If you're so desperate to win this league, go ahead and snub yourself or your teammates of games in favor of getting someone to play twice.
Calm down bro, we're just talking. I just like to get a fair win or a fair loss either way.
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On March 06 2012 18:34 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 18:31 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player. So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that. We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right? Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great. I'm just saying, if its that easy to get a top player to play twice, every team might as well do it.
I understand Eywa's point. In fact, when Kaspra suggested this to me, I was against it because I had already won my match. However, Nikon and both the team captains had a private meeting and they came up with the decision themselves. I also didn't know the map, because I never bothered playing in CB. In fact, I popped up a TL window before the game started just so I could see the spawns. Nevertheless, the fact remains that the organizer made a decision and I accepted it.
I guess I should be flattered that you're implying that I'm better than KasPra; nevertheless, I don't believe the differences in skill are that significant. Neither do I know whether I'm, in fact, better than him. I dropped to D- last season and managed to pull myself back to D on the last couple days. I already dropped to D- this season and cleared stats to start over. I wouldn't consider myself a "top player".
@L_master. They tried to lat break. It didn't work. For whatever reason their connections seemed incompatible with one-another.
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On March 06 2012 19:02 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 18:34 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:31 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player. So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that. We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right? Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great. I'm just saying, if its that easy to get a top player to play twice, every team might as well do it. I understand Eywa's point. In fact, when Kaspra suggested this to me, I was against it because I had already won my match. However, Nikon and both the team captains had a private meeting and they came up with the decision themselves. I also didn't know the map, because I never bothered playing in CB. In fact, I popped up a TL window before the game started just so I could see the spawns. Nevertheless, the fact remains that the organizer made a decision and I accepted it. I guess I should be flattered that you're implying that I'm better than KasPra; nevertheless, I don't believe the differences in skill are that significant. Neither do I know whether I'm, in fact, better than him. I dropped to D- last season and managed to pull myself back to D on the last couple days. I already dropped to D- this season and cleared stats to start over. I wouldn't consider myself a "top player". @L_master. They tried to lat break. It didn't work. For whatever reason their connections seemed incompatible with one-another.
O_O You're 6-1 in your last 7 DRTL games, only loss is to Conversion who's a beast.  Safe to say, you're pretty good for this league.
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On March 06 2012 19:08 Eywa- wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 19:02 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:On March 06 2012 18:34 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:31 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player. So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that. We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right? Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great. I'm just saying, if its that easy to get a top player to play twice, every team might as well do it. I understand Eywa's point. In fact, when Kaspra suggested this to me, I was against it because I had already won my match. However, Nikon and both the team captains had a private meeting and they came up with the decision themselves. I also didn't know the map, because I never bothered playing in CB. In fact, I popped up a TL window before the game started just so I could see the spawns. Nevertheless, the fact remains that the organizer made a decision and I accepted it. I guess I should be flattered that you're implying that I'm better than KasPra; nevertheless, I don't believe the differences in skill are that significant. Neither do I know whether I'm, in fact, better than him. I dropped to D- last season and managed to pull myself back to D on the last couple days. I already dropped to D- this season and cleared stats to start over. I wouldn't consider myself a "top player". @L_master. They tried to lat break. It didn't work. For whatever reason their connections seemed incompatible with one-another. O_O You're 6-1 in your last 7 DRTL games, only loss is to Conversion who's a beast. Safe to say, you're pretty good for this league.
@_@ Last season I got really lucky with the last 2 wins. I can give you the replays and you'd be like: "wow how lucky can this mofo be?" This season I prepared gay-imba-unorthodox builds for my scheduled matches; and the game vs Jakalo... he gged before I could even try to move out of my base :/
I will concede that Conversion is a beast, though
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On March 04 2012 04:36 Skeggaba wrote:UED y u no show  Ty to the people that showed!
WTF - I don't get what's going on here!? I specifically scheduled my day for DRTL, left a meeting early, came online way in time just to be told that we would be rescheduled to an unknown date (at that point), because there hadn't been a lineup in time, I played like 2 ladder games and left, frustrated. Now I'm told that we no show and should have been playing?
When did you play? Saturday night?
I kinda feel like jumping ship....
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On March 06 2012 19:02 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 18:34 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:31 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player. So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that. We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right? Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great. I'm just saying, if its that easy to get a top player to play twice, every team might as well do it. I understand Eywa's point. In fact, when Kaspra suggested this to me, I was against it because I had already won my match. However, Nikon and both the team captains had a private meeting and they came up with the decision themselves. I also didn't know the map, because I never bothered playing in CB. In fact, I popped up a TL window before the game started just so I could see the spawns. Nevertheless, the fact remains that the organizer made a decision and I accepted it. I guess I should be flattered that you're implying that I'm better than KasPra; nevertheless, I don't believe the differences in skill are that significant. Neither do I know whether I'm, in fact, better than him. I dropped to D- last season and managed to pull myself back to D on the last couple days. I already dropped to D- this season and cleared stats to start over. I wouldn't consider myself a "top player". @L_master. They tried to lat break. It didn't work. For whatever reason their connections seemed incompatible with one-another.
We talked it over briefly with both team captains and the both agreed that this was the most reasonable solution. It is unfortunate that we have to deal with such incidents, but nevertheless it is something that we must and will deal with.
As the poet once said, the show must go on, and I'll be trying as hard as I can to ensure that it does. While some people may think that this was not the most ideal solution to the matter at hand, please accept accept it for the moment. After all, this is only the first season that I have been running, and I still have a lot to learn myself. But be assured, incidents like this are noted and there will be rules to deal with them set in place later.
On March 06 2012 21:38 floi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 04:36 Skeggaba wrote:UED y u no show Ty to the people that showed! WTF - I don't get what's going on here!? I specifically scheduled my day for DRTL, left a meeting early, came online way in time just to be told that we would be rescheduled to an unknown date (at that point), because there hadn't been a lineup in time, I played like 2 ladder games and left, frustrated. Now I'm told that we no show and should have been playing? When did you play? Saturday night? I kinda feel like jumping ship....
Oh, so that's what's going on. Just to clarify: I hadn't heard anything from Bloodspray for the entirety of the week. When he finally showed up on Saturday, I told him to not be late with the lineup for the next week. Now, I obviously meant the lineup for Week 3, but he somehow has managed to misconstrue that as me telling him that the game will be postponed. No idea how that happened, but it did. Not to mention that I explicitly stated that the team will be playing with a deficit due to the delayed lienup previously, and not "you'll have to postpone your games". *shrug*
Please do not leave the team, it is still very much functional, there's just been a miscommunication along the line.
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Haha, so much confusion. No, I'm not leaving, but I'm sending a lineup reminder to Bloodspray right now :D
Hope things work out this week!
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On March 06 2012 22:34 floi wrote:
Haha, so much confusion. No, I'm not leaving, but I'm sending a lineup reminder to Bloodspray right now :D
Hope things work out this week!
I imagine that you could also contact the rest of your team yourself and send a line-up if he doesn't answer...
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Please please crazyhorse get the same map as me.
Because the amazingly funny thing is that i also have a 5000 word essay due beginning of next week. And a huge assignment thursday. Oh, let it just be!
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I just saw the rep of Keedcuddy vs sabas123, and I'm confused how the game can be legitimate. The loser ppp'd and then his apm dropped towards 0. Did he forget to pause, or did the winner unpause?
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On March 07 2012 02:17 ninini wrote:
I just saw the rep of Keedcuddy vs sabas123, and I'm confused how the game can be legitimate. The loser ppp'd and then his apm dropped towards 0. Did he forget to pause, or did the winner unpause?
I am pretty sure that pausing is a courtesy call, as in unpausing is legitimate (it's in ICCup rules which I believe this tournament follows?). Not saying that this is what happened, I personally don't know, but still.
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On March 06 2012 21:38 floi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 04:36 Skeggaba wrote:UED y u no show Ty to the people that showed! WTF - I don't get what's going on here!? I specifically scheduled my day for DRTL, left a meeting early, came online way in time just to be told that we would be rescheduled to an unknown date (at that point), because there hadn't been a lineup in time, I played like 2 ladder games and left, frustrated. Now I'm told that we no show and should have been playing? When did you play? Saturday night? I kinda feel like jumping ship....
I know the feeling dude apparently my clan mates don't seem to favor training for favorable results the day before and when I ask them to do so they get defensive or make up excuses. I also feel like jumping ship, but that wont help any just worsen the problem. Regardless if ya want to you can add me on Skype I'll pm you my ID on that and ya I cant log on till Friday since I have a buttload of Business work to deal with throughout the week. I also sent a reminder to Blood on the chatbox in our iccup homepage hoping for no issues this week.
By the way its UED_MyStiC.RG aka UED_VariaL in case ya didnt know.
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On March 06 2012 10:26 ZoW wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 09:35 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 08:43 ZoW wrote:On March 06 2012 08:26 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 07:59 Skeggaba wrote:On March 06 2012 07:48 Eywa- wrote:
wtf, Crazyhorse played twice? ... Also for ace yes? Team 3 v Team 1 this weekend, i hope i get set up against crazyhorse, would be soooooo epic ... No, he had to fill in for a player of the same race who was having internet issues with his opponent. God please no, I've seen the reps xD (sorry Cr4). I'll take you down instead. Also, we won't no-show like UED, get ready to lose. ~ ZoW: I know you, I know what you are capable of you sly demon. i could say the same to you mr.babo noblesse oblige my good sir Forsooth we have a history in which I have shown my prowess, but long has the day passed when I was capable of defeating thy Protoss in a match against my own and we were both in the ranks of C. I presume that your skill has diminished less than my own, resulting in a great difference between our current powers. my most worthy adversary, i believe thou hath greatly underestimated the extent of time i've neglected to maintain my proficiency. i humbly assure that much like yours, my skills have degraded quite a considerable amount since the last time our wills had clashed
You guys are both so full of shit.
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Go Team Courage? :D
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On March 06 2012 18:31 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2012 18:25 Eywa- wrote:On March 06 2012 18:18 Jealous wrote:On March 06 2012 16:18 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
I do want to bring up a point. I know Team 1 had a player not show up, so CrazyHorse played for that player in the same MU (And it's already said and done) but what is to keep say, myself, from playing all the races on all the maps if none of my teammates show up? I thought that was the reason for lineups? I would have played for R-Dizzle week 1 if I knew that was allowed. Last season it was left to the discretion of the other team whether they wanted to take a w/o or allow a sub-in. I don't know if this is the case this season, but I think it's an honorable thing to do. The point of line-ups remains because at least you'll still be playing the same race as you initially thought, don't be coy :/ Same race, different caliber player... Would rather different race, worse player. So, when it comes time for you to decide whether or not you will allow a sub-in, you can just say no as expected of you. There's really no point in discussing this further than that. We're sorry that no one bothered to ask you whether or not you allow this sub, but you were also not there on the day so it can't be helped. For the future, I recommend you send your line-ups with a message saying "NO SUBS ALLOWED BY EYWA-, UNLESS THEY ARE WORSE PLAYER". That way you can avoid this issue entirely, right? Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great.
Okay before I comment I want to be clear I don't really have any issue at all with what happened. If teams agree for subs for various reasons then that's a perfectly fine, legitimate resolution of the problem.
Also, we are all in the D ranks, in the same league. The relative differences in skill are not so great.
That statement though is incredibly false. The difference between a D- player and a D+ play is incredibly huge. I would be shocked if a D- player could take one game in a hundred from someone ranked D+.
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