Stx will win. Gogo modesty (me), he (i) is (am) in great shape, there is no need for others, I (Modesty) 3:0 ALL.. Muahaha and darkness will rule the Light oh yea!!
Modesty > Effort
Modesty > Hydra
Modesty > Horang2
Modesty 1v3 (4pool) > hydra + effort + horran2 (team melle) And after that all CJ members has started to think for retire! xd
Stx can , want and will destroy them in 30 minutes. xd
I'd feel pretty terrible for CJ if their lose-streak extended to 5 in a row. I guess I'll cheer for... whichever team plays the best games in the first 2 sets.
i think the competition for playoffs in the future would be far more interesting if CJ wins today hoping for close 3:2 for whoever comes better prepared today though
Cheering for CJ because I like their coach, but I expect STX to win because they haven't been losing to everyone lately, whereas CJ... I don't know, they've been looking pretty bad.
Wheeee, almost time for Proleague! *hyperventilates*
Man, now that KeSPA changed the schedule and I can't watch the weekday games, five days without Proleague seems like a very long time... I get all excited and happy about now. I hope Leta plays.
On February 04 2012 11:51 Reaper9 wrote: Argh, I have night-shift work nowadays... D:< This means I'll miss proleague 100% of the time during broadcast...luckily theres the vids *-*
Well the bright side is you won't have to sit through any bad games that inevitably occur.
On February 04 2012 12:06 Kiett wrote: CJ, when you're in a 4 game losing streak, it's NOT a good time to be fielding rookies. You need WINS.
bbyong's not a rookie.. that said, i'm not sure why they'd field him over leta, hydra, effort, horang2, and snow
Meh. Seems anyone who debuted after 2008 is considered a rookie now (people are calling Last a rookie, and he also started in 08), so I guess I'm following that definition too. You may also substitute that with "weaker player that needs experience" or what have you.
Ahh got caught up in a BW game, lost it to a stupid doom drop =/ Oh well Lets see here BByong yellow terran 1 oclock Last teal terran 7 oclock Looks like Last is up on BByongs side of the map 84-76 supply Lead goes towards Last BByong getting some vultures into the nat of Last to kill off osme scvs
On February 04 2012 12:06 Kiett wrote: CJ, when you're in a 4 game losing streak, it's NOT a good time to be fielding rookies. You need WINS.
bbyong's not a rookie.. that said, i'm not sure why they'd field him over leta, hydra, effort, horang2, and snow
Meh. Seems anyone who debuted after 2008 is considered a rookie now (people are calling Last a rookie, and he also started in 08), so I guess I'm following that definition too. You may also substitute that with "weaker player that needs experience" or what have you.
fair enough. also i should have added movie to that list.
4 fact for both players I believe 0-0 in terms of upgrades 102-86 supply Last-BByong BByong trys to push out, but his army gets crushed 92-64 scv's being brought off the ling It looks like the game is over But BByong has scvs raiding the mineral lines again, a few scv kills before death 6 fact for BByong, he somehow holds onto his nat, 6 fact for both players
What a godawfully terrible build by BByong, the lost mining from floating that command center basically equals the cost of building a new one, why? WHY?
BByong pushes out with his force Manages to clean up the rest of Last's tanks outside of his nat Little bit of breathing room, and supplies are evening up slightly 80-78 now More vultures setting up for a raid Both players adding on a starport 3 base on 3 base, but Last has 3 base Vultures raid the 9 oclock again, to net more scvs BByong expanding to his 3 oclock expo now, and it looks like hes trying to take the mineral only of 5 ocolck
No, BByong is not taking the 5 oclock mineral only, what am I thinking 30ish supply lead for Last 130-104 Back door is taken down Last going for wraiths, BByong going for dropships Lots of vultures get into the mineral only of BByong, killing lots of scvs Dropship moving out for BByong, but it looks like its on intercept coarse for the wraiths Vultures of Last are in BByong's main now More of Last's droops are moving into the mineral only
Wraiths headed toawrds the mineral only Going to kill the lifted CC, ouch Theres nothing to counter the wraiths, BByong's only armory got taken down 148-113 Last-BByong Wraiths are just causing havoc, and the mech army is just rolling into the high ground
On February 04 2012 12:23 pvzvt wrote: this last guy is good at tvt a new skyhigh with pvt skills why do cj insist on sending new guys when they have such a rolster of stars
"My nickname for playing long, macro, starvation TvTs...was just a result of me not being able to fully utilize my playing. I've gotten a lot better so I am able to end games faster - my eyes are opened"
"In regards to me seunbaes (older terran players - fanta/flash, etc), it's an honor to be even placed near the same category as them... i will try and do my best"
On February 04 2012 12:25 Taekwon wrote: dat was a decent tvt wth
Which is pretty low on the excitement scale. Loser loses and then gg's 10min later, zzzzzzzzz
wat? quirky build, unorthodox unit comp at the beginning, explotation of late mines, good harrassment, epic mine daebak, backdoor kill, surprise wraiths
I'm always subconsciously referring to him as Clam, always Snow's probe, and Clam's initial overlord going to scout incorrectly Wait, Clam's overlord stops for a second, resumes scouting Overbuild of some sort, hatch first, Snow just sees it get planted down
Pool planted now Snow doing some nice probe micro, going to try and get the drone, Nah, hes not going to get it Forge->nexus->gate No cannon yet Clam taking his 3rd hatch at the inner 9 oclock position Pool finishes for Clam, and the extractor is morphing Snow almost gets the drone kill with his probe, just about, one hit left
Lings are out now, getting hits off on the probe, but that probe is going to live for a little while longer, as Clam opted for lair first it seems, lair first at his nat one cannon for Snow at his own nat, and he scouts out the 3rd of the zerg
Core is up and spinning, stargate warping in Scouting probe finally falling to the lings Citadel being added aswell, forge isnt spinning yet, and theirs one zealot being a ninja behind the gateway First sair is out 4th hatch and hydra den being morphed in for simcity at the nat
Archives is warped in, as are the additional gateways First hydra is out to ward away the sairs 5th hatch for Clam at his 3rd Snow going up to 4 gates, and 4 sairs
Overlord speed is finished Hydras poking away at the front gateway, it falls DT snuck right on by Forge is spinning, and first HT is out, waiting to see if it has storm yet or now
5 cannons for Snow's front More hydras reinforcing the front there ~8 hydras defending the 3rd DT being sneaking nets 3 drone kills before Clam notices +1 attack is done for the protoss ground army Lurkers are out, Sairs scout them, looks like Clam wanted to go a drop of some sorts Lurker dropped behind the nat mineral line, and beside the main mineral line Robotics is out, storm gets a couple of probes, and almost gets the shuttle Obs are in the making though 3 lurkers in the main of Snow 11 kills on that one lurker
Hydras in the front of Snow's nat, going to try and bust HUGE STORM, 10 hydras atleast fell to that But more and more and streaming in The sairs are just being given away DT trying to be sneaky, but to no avail OH But wait another DT at the main killed off all the drones 15 kills on that one Hydras are trying to break into the main Some cute drop micro is helping Clam, One DT got pulled back and another is being pulled to try and help Nat nexus goes down
Oh man STX has been doing really well these past few weeks. CJ in big danger of getting 3-0'd. Might have to bring out Effort this time around given that Hydra's muta control can get real iffy and that STX might send out Modesty/Bogus.
On February 04 2012 12:47 darkmetal505 wrote: lol I thought Snow would make a cannon in his mineral line after he flew over the lurkers with his sairs.
So, before the interviews or the next game, I have a question for you all If I'm getting doom dropped, what should I do in terms of crisis management? Pull probes, rush to plant down tech again, try to counter push?
On February 04 2012 12:51 X10A wrote: So, before the interviews or the next game, I have a question for you all If I'm getting doom dropped, what should I do in terms of crisis management? Pull probes, rush to plant down tech again, try to counter push?
Isn't that very situational? While probes might help against pure hydra drop, against lurkers they are not so hot.
On February 04 2012 12:51 X10A wrote: So, before the interviews or the next game, I have a question for you all If I'm getting doom dropped, what should I do in terms of crisis management? Pull probes, rush to plant down tech again, try to counter push?
...If it's a doom drop...there shouldn't be any probes left in the main unless you had horrible saturation.
and it will be in most circumstances almost always be wiser to defend a doom drop rather than counter your first concern should not be tech but putting down gates asap wherever your other main is then see what tech is left and rebuild from there
On February 04 2012 12:51 X10A wrote: So, before the interviews or the next game, I have a question for you all If I'm getting doom dropped, what should I do in terms of crisis management? Pull probes, rush to plant down tech again, try to counter push?
Isn't that very situational? While probes might help against pure hydra drop, against lurkers they are not so hot.
Well, I was dropped with HydraUltraLingDefiler, but Hydra doom drops are what kill me the most problably
"this build was meant to distract him as much as possible ans waste all his storms. from then, ruin his econ as much as poissible and push at the ftront"
"I didn't play as well as I thought I could.. whenever i hear words like 'you played very well', i feel burdened and feel that i have a higher threshold to shoot for"
On February 04 2012 12:56 Taekwon wrote: "I didn't play as well as I thought I could.. ㅗㄷㅁ갸ㅜㅎ 솜ㅅ ㅑ ㅔㅣ묟ㅇ ㅈ디ㅣ ㅐㅟㅛ ㅔㅕㅅㄴ ㅁ ㅠㅕㄱㅇ두 ㅐㅜ ㅡㅛ 뭉 뇆ㄴ ㅑ ㅗㅁㅍㄷ ㅁ ㅗㅑ혿ㄱ 속ㄷ놰ㅣㅇ 새 ㅔㅕㄱ녇"
On February 04 2012 12:51 X10A wrote: So, before the interviews or the next game, I have a question for you all If I'm getting doom dropped, what should I do in terms of crisis management? Pull probes, rush to plant down tech again, try to counter push?
...If it's a doom drop...there shouldn't be any probes left in the main unless you had horrible saturation.
and it will be in most circumstances almost always be wiser to defend a doom drop rather than counter your first concern should not be tech but putting down gates asap wherever your other main is then see what tech is left and rebuild from there
I'm horrible, I still had a TON of minerals left in the main /Embarrased Mini vs Effort Captain Effort, please avenge your subordinate Insertrankhere Piano <3
Nexus first for Mini Overpool for Effort Forge warping in Effort taking his second expo at the 6.5 expo Only one pair of lings for Effort One cannon being planted, as the nexus comes up
Lair for Effort starting with his first 100 I think Not really sure, didn't catch gas timing Effort's nat is morphing in now too Core is up for Mini, his probe is still alive, but 8 lings sandwich it Spire is morphing in now
2 stargate out of Mini Core is spinning, first sair is out Hydra den and hatch being added for simcity Another hatch being added to the 3rd Three sairs total, 2 cannons at the front of the nat, and one in the main mineral line
Citadel now in the main, Scourge scout the main, meet the cannon - did they see the 2nd 2targate? well now that lots of sairs are at Effort's 3rd - they must know
Effort gets a few scourge, I think 2 pairs off on the sairs of Mini The muta pops out, but barley lives Core is spinning again, not sure if its a different upgrade Citadel being added Sairs on the run from the mutas Two sairs got one scourge a piece I don't think Effort lost any mutas
Effort taking out 2 or 3 of Mini's sairs with his scourge No +1 for the zerg air yet 6 gates for Mini, and he has templar tech up Queens nest for Effort is up, and lurkers are out
Speedlots are moving into the nat So many overlord clumped up, are are going to go down The speedlots are moving into the main now too! One lurker and quite a few lings are out now Effort is supply blocked a bit Two lurkers burrow just before the zealots kill them, at the toss's 3rd, but the HT storm is enogu to kill them off The 3rd is going to go up pretty much uncontested Scourge being given away to cannons Goons being pumped out now, hive is up, and core is spinning again Defiler mound is morphing in, and the cracklings are taking out the back door temple to the 3rd
Lots of cracklings going to attack the 3rd No thing to defend Obs get sniped at the 3rd of Effort And the 3rd of the protoss is going to go down Lots of probes going down, as does the nexus The observer outside the nat goes down!
Another observer is there Defilers not in play yet? Mni 50 supply ahead of Effort Mini swining back around to the 3rd No lurkers, just one sunken Lots of cracklings coming out of their eggs, but the lots are blocking well A few HT get sniped, but it doesn't seem to matter Train of zealots streaming into the 3rd
One hatchery goes down at the 3rd The main one is still there Zealots are tanking the sunkens, lings are under the swarm and 0-0-2 for the protoss Effort going to back stab with more cracklings at the 3rd of the toss Effort's own 3rd goes down though No wait, the 3rd doesn't go down Muta switch for Effort, no sairs are out
Effort has another base at 5 oclock, not doing much of anything 5 HT ready for the picking off The nat of Effort is broken He hardly has any economy to speak off Effort holds onto his nat, but Mini has more troops headed towards Effirt
Stargates are in full production now Mutas are dealing some damage to Mini, but the sairs will be back out soon Mini going to go for the 5 oclock expo of Effort Nothing left to defend it Scout is out >< + Show Spoiler +
Mini you have moved up past Shuttle, and possibly Classic in terms of STX hate
mutaling attack is not too bad against pure goon mutaling attack on mini's 3rd cannons being taken down - goons coming back but it's not enough and Effort concedes
On February 04 2012 13:20 Kuzmorgo wrote: With this mini will be at 75% win percent! So he is better than Flash!!! muhahahaha what a shame CJ what a shame...
On February 04 2012 13:20 Kuzmorgo wrote: With this mini will be at 75% win percent! So he is better than Flash!!! muhahahaha what a shame CJ what a shame...
On February 04 2012 13:19 shaftofpleasure wrote: Fuck yeah STX .. Fuck yeah underdogs .. !!
CJ are the underdogs.
WHAT?
Horang2 Hydra Effort Movie Leta Skyhigh
Such a fucking stellar line up and you say they are the underdog? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Might want to quote Team 8 line up too. Doesn't work that way. I say that according to their recent form. How many among the players you mentioned are at least 50%+ this season anyway? pretty sure Movie Hydra Horang2 and SKyhigh are not.
On February 04 2012 13:19 shaftofpleasure wrote: Fuck yeah STX .. Fuck yeah underdogs .. !!
CJ are the underdogs.
WHAT?
Horang2 Hydra Effort Movie Leta Skyhigh
Such a fucking stellar line up and you say they are the underdog? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Might want to quote Team 8 line up too. Doesn't work that way. I say that according to their recent form. How many among the players you mentioned are at least 50%+ this season anyway? pretty sure Movie Hydra Horang2 and SKyhigh are not.
Seems like the coach is missing all the matchups compounded by the fact that the players arent playing well = ez loss
On February 04 2012 13:19 shaftofpleasure wrote: Fuck yeah STX .. Fuck yeah underdogs .. !!
CJ are the underdogs.
WHAT?
Horang2 Hydra Effort Movie Leta Skyhigh
Such a fucking stellar line up and you say they are the underdog? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Might want to quote Team 8 line up too. Doesn't work that way. I say that according to their recent form. How many among the players you mentioned are at least 50%+ this season anyway? pretty sure Movie Hydra Horang2 and SKyhigh are not.
Stable sponsorships Full Coaching staff Plenty of practice partners Stable Facilities
CJ has everything. Comparing them to team 8 will is the opposite of underdog.
On February 04 2012 13:19 shaftofpleasure wrote: Fuck yeah STX .. Fuck yeah underdogs .. !!
CJ are the underdogs.
WHAT?
Horang2 Hydra Effort Movie Leta Skyhigh
Such a fucking stellar line up and you say they are the underdog? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Might want to quote Team 8 line up too. Doesn't work that way. I say that according to their recent form. How many among the players you mentioned are at least 50%+ this season anyway? pretty sure Movie Hydra Horang2 and SKyhigh are not.
Seems like the coach is missing all the matchups compounded by the fact that the players arent playing well = ez loss
Skyhigh v T, Snow v Z and Effort v P are good matchups. The players are just getting outplayed.
On February 04 2012 13:19 shaftofpleasure wrote: Fuck yeah STX .. Fuck yeah underdogs .. !!
CJ are the underdogs.
WHAT?
Horang2 Hydra Effort Movie Leta Skyhigh
Such a fucking stellar line up and you say they are the underdog? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Might want to quote Team 8 line up too. Doesn't work that way. I say that according to their recent form. How many among the players you mentioned are at least 50%+ this season anyway? pretty sure Movie Hydra Horang2 and SKyhigh are not.
Seems like the coach is missing all the matchups compounded by the fact that the players arent playing well = ez loss
Skyhigh v T, Snow v Z and Effort v P are good matchups. The players are just getting outplayed.
On February 04 2012 13:19 shaftofpleasure wrote: Fuck yeah STX .. Fuck yeah underdogs .. !!
CJ are the underdogs.
WHAT?
Horang2 Hydra Effort Movie Leta Skyhigh
Such a fucking stellar line up and you say they are the underdog? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Might want to quote Team 8 line up too. Doesn't work that way. I say that according to their recent form. How many among the players you mentioned are at least 50%+ this season anyway? pretty sure Movie Hydra Horang2 and SKyhigh are not.
Stable sponsorships Full Coaching staff Plenty of practice partners Stable Facilities
CJ has everything. Comparing them to team 8 will is the opposite of underdog.
Ok I'll make it simple for you, the 1-4 team is underdog to the 2-2 team. (now 1-5 and 3-2 respectively).
On February 04 2012 13:19 shaftofpleasure wrote: Fuck yeah STX .. Fuck yeah underdogs .. !!
CJ are the underdogs.
WHAT?
Horang2 Hydra Effort Movie Leta Skyhigh
Such a fucking stellar line up and you say they are the underdog? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Might want to quote Team 8 line up too. Doesn't work that way. I say that according to their recent form. How many among the players you mentioned are at least 50%+ this season anyway? pretty sure Movie Hydra Horang2 and SKyhigh are not.
Seems like the coach is missing all the matchups compounded by the fact that the players arent playing well = ez loss
Skyhigh v T, Snow v Z and Effort v P are good matchups. The players are just getting outplayed.
Yea i said the players arent playing well
Was referring to the first part of your post. Anyway I'm not too bothered, just unhappy about the fact that there were only 3 games.
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