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NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 28 2012 08:11 GMT
#1101
On January 28 2012 17:03 SimonB wrote:
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On January 28 2012 16:59 FirstProbe wrote:
I wonder if Flash will go undefeated this year.

Improbable but not impossible.

Improbable to the point that it's essentially impossible.

Come on, guys. Flash is a playing unbelievable, but losses just happen in BW. Nobody can even sustain a 90% for an entire year, much less 100%.

You doubt because it never happened before. You're lucky you're alive to witness it happen for the first and the last time.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
January 28 2012 08:11 GMT
#1102
On January 28 2012 17:03 SimonB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:59 FirstProbe wrote:
I wonder if Flash will go undefeated this year.

Improbable but not impossible.

Improbable to the point that it's essentially impossible.

Come on, guys. Flash is a playing unbelievable, but losses just happen in BW. Nobody can even sustain a 90% for an entire year, much less 100%.


I'll quote you in a year :D
Nukid
Profile Joined April 2010
United States240 Posts
January 28 2012 08:11 GMT
#1103
On January 28 2012 17:09 One Page Memory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 17:04 Nukid wrote:
after losing 2 science vessels, Flash didn't produce anymore vessel, only relying on his "maphack" to detect lurkers.

I was wondering this too ...
Why no vessels at all?

To save gas for tanks. Vessel cost too much gas + you need galioth to protect the vessel
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
January 28 2012 08:12 GMT
#1104
On January 28 2012 17:09 One Page Memory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 17:04 Nukid wrote:
after losing 2 science vessels, Flash didn't produce anymore vessel, only relying on his "maphack" to detect lurkers.

I was wondering this too ...
Why no vessels at all?

He handicapped Himself because He wasn't impressed with his opponent's effort.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
sniperb
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore148 Posts
January 28 2012 08:15 GMT
#1105
On January 28 2012 17:12 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 17:09 One Page Memory wrote:
On January 28 2012 17:04 Nukid wrote:
after losing 2 science vessels, Flash didn't produce anymore vessel, only relying on his "maphack" to detect lurkers.

I was wondering this too ...
Why no vessels at all?

He handicapped Himself because He wasn't impressed with his opponent's effort.


I see what you did there!

I believe he had enough scans though, he was expanding while containing effort. G-Class maphax.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
January 28 2012 08:23 GMT
#1106
you dont need vessels when you go mass tanks transition specially in that situation where flash had 5 comsats and there was only 1 spot where engagements happened. you really only need it when zerg goes queens.
Woo Jung Ho
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
January 28 2012 08:25 GMT
#1107
On January 28 2012 17:09 One Page Memory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 17:04 Nukid wrote:
after losing 2 science vessels, Flash didn't produce anymore vessel, only relying on his "maphack" to detect lurkers.

I was wondering this too ...
Why no vessels at all?
Save gas for tanks. irradiate is not necessary when everything dies in less than 5 seconds
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
January 28 2012 08:28 GMT
#1108
flash had so many bases with comsats that he didnt need to waste gas on vessels
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 08:35:15
January 28 2012 08:34 GMT
#1109
lol i should upgrade my intuition

but today when i woke up (its 12 pm here) i somehow "saw" that flash>effort had that feeling of predicting what i will see in topic

memes about that game made me rofl
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-28 08:58:22
January 28 2012 08:57 GMT
#1110
On January 28 2012 17:03 SimonB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:59 FirstProbe wrote:
I wonder if Flash will go undefeated this year.

Improbable but not impossible.

Improbable to the point that it's essentially impossible.

Come on, guys. Flash is a playing unbelievable, but losses just happen in BW. Nobody can even sustain a 90% for an entire year, much less 100%.


The new format means Flash will be playing around 25-30 proleague games for the entire year. He's held near 90% winrates in the teamleague format over that number of games before. From 10/10/2009 - 10/5/2010 Flash had a record of 53-7 in proleague (88%) and from 10/19/2010 - 2/15/2011 he went 35-3 (92%). With no individual leagues to split his preparation time, no ace matches to play against the other members of TBLS or vT snipers and no burden to carry KT all by himself, there's no reason why Flash wouldn't be able to hit 90% for the whole year. 100% is unlikely simply because somebody will eventually beat Flash with a cheese or all-in but I see no way Flash doesn't completely demolish the record for win% in proleague.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 28 2012 09:11 GMT
#1111
On January 28 2012 17:03 SimonB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:59 FirstProbe wrote:
I wonder if Flash will go undefeated this year.

Improbable but not impossible.

Improbable to the point that it's essentially impossible.

Come on, guys. Flash is a playing unbelievable, but losses just happen in BW. Nobody can even sustain a 90% for an entire year, much less 100%.


...It's already halfway through Round 2. With the less amount of games and stress on Flash with no OSL/MSL, he can put all his attention into Proleague. He could very well go through the first season without a single loss.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
January 28 2012 09:31 GMT
#1112
On January 28 2012 16:52 Motivate wrote:
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On January 28 2012 16:51 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:50 Heimatloser wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:48 OtoshimonoU wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:47 J1.au wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:46 GTR wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:44 kingalexxx wrote:
Honestly don't think anyone can beat Flash.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


BELIEVE

So overrated.


Bring em in!

Related:
Stats slump?


stats has been a player of ups and downs but I'm not worried.

yeah stats is a bit streaky. he was like this last season. he did a great job supporting flash in WL.


Don't think it's a slump. Even in the loss against bogus he played pretty well. This loss to snow was a bit unfortunate. Was dominating until he lost the shuttle.

He's still playing at a high level.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
January 28 2012 10:18 GMT
#1113
I love Jangbi as much as you guys but he beat Flash before the surgery. Can't say he's the most-favored to defeat Flash. I'd put Fantasy or even Zero (minus the current slump he's in) as the more likely candidates.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
January 28 2012 10:20 GMT
#1114
I hate Flash as much as the next Anti-fan but I despise CJ more. So fuck yeah, KT.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
malignant
Profile Joined August 2011
United States35 Posts
January 28 2012 10:54 GMT
#1115
I really dont get why Flash did not build 4-5 Science Vessel.
They would cost about 1200 gas, pretty cheap when you are at 5 base.
In terms of cost efficiency its really hard to beat.
Even if a science vessel only manage to irradiate a single defiler and get sniped by scourge, it already paid for itself. Anything more than that, and Flash being Flash, he'd get waaaaaaaay more, is a bonus.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
January 28 2012 11:09 GMT
#1116
On January 28 2012 19:54 malignant wrote:
I really dont get why Flash did not build 4-5 Science Vessel.
They would cost about 1200 gas, pretty cheap when you are at 5 base.
In terms of cost efficiency its really hard to beat.
Even if a science vessel only manage to irradiate a single defiler and get sniped by scourge, it already paid for itself. Anything more than that, and Flash being Flash, he'd get waaaaaaaay more, is a bonus.

no need for vessels if you are that far ahead.
FTD
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
January 28 2012 11:25 GMT
#1117
On January 28 2012 14:48 Hyde wrote:
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On January 28 2012 14:47 GTR wrote:
someone used a couple to semi-get a teamliquid sign on camera

Could it be Kona? He said he would be there today

yeah that was me lol OGN refused to take my cheerful :/

btw i took photos with jaehoon jaedong reach and flash and got their autographs

i feel so high
POGGERS
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
January 28 2012 11:38 GMT
#1118
On January 28 2012 16:54 krissless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:35 lexpoa wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:33 GTR wrote:
loses two vessels to scourge? is this really flash?


Yeah. I don't think I can call Flash S-class anymore.


lol this joke.


Flash is now G-class ( God )


This joke has gotten really old, might want to drop it at some point, you know?
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
January 28 2012 11:40 GMT
#1119
On January 28 2012 20:38 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 16:54 krissless wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:35 lexpoa wrote:
On January 28 2012 16:33 GTR wrote:
loses two vessels to scourge? is this really flash?


Yeah. I don't think I can call Flash S-class anymore.


lol this joke.


Flash is now G-class ( God )


This joke has gotten really old, might want to drop it at some point, you know?

audience after watching flash's game:
"how do you win that?"
"ridiculous"
"he really is god"
POGGERS
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
January 28 2012 11:45 GMT
#1120
I humbly request a blog with said pics, kona. I jelly.
Woo Jung Ho
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