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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 21:49:07
January 12 2012 00:18 GMT
#1
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10 Weeks have passed and here we stand before you, with a match of unprecedented brilliance. Both teams having proven great skill and dedication time and time again thus bringing these teams to a whole new level from what we have previously witnessed. Though both are equally deserving of the title, only one will take home the money. Team USA has shown the absolute best management in the league up to date which is in no small portion to credit for their flawless record, while on the other side of the table we have a team whom has made it through with brute force by the best and most consistent lineup in the league. Now it comes to it, one loss between the two teams, who will take it home? Tune in to find out!

Maps
< Jade >
< Electric Circuit >
< Troy >
< Ground Zero >
< Destination >
< La Mancha >
< Neo Aztec >

+ Show Spoiler [Lineups] +

Jumper < Jade > Pike
Modesty < Electric Circuit > Mazur
Michael < Troy > Choosy
Game < Ground Zero > TrutaCz
Semih < Destination > SouthPark
LuMiX Jiraya < La Mancha > SouthPark Johnek

+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

Jumper 0 < Jade > 2 Pike
Modesty 1 < Electric Circuit > 2 Mazur
Michael 1 < Troy > 2 Choosy
Game 0 < Ground Zero > 2 TrutaCz
Semih 2 < Destination > 0 SouthPark
LuMiX Jiraya 0 < La Mancha > 2 SouthPark Johnek



Date: Saturday, January 14th 2012
Time: 1900CET
Stream: Sayle
Sponsor: Nimbly Games - www.altitudegame.com

Hype!!
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Poland has only taken 1 loss in the Altitude Nation Wars and that came early in the season to Team Russia. Ever since, Poland has been making minced meat out of their competition. No team has proven to be a challenge for this Polish team ever since the beginning of the second half of the season. Poland has the strongest 1v1 and 2v2 line ups in the league, that being said, they are the favorite to win this match. However, weaknesses do linger in their lineup and they could find themselves taking losses to knowledgeable and prepared players.

Top Players

Mazur - Team Captain
Race:
Stats: 8-0

Mazur has thus far been the go-to guy for Poland. He has won his matches all over the course of the season and playoffs, he's made it through the group of death without a scratch and took the ace games when needed. He's probably feeling pretty confident going into this week's match considering that he trusts in his own capability and his team also does. Now, Mazur is of course really well known for his PvZ and everyone is aware that his PvP and PvT are much much weaker. Before people rage about me saying that Mazur's other match ups are vulnerable, let me elaborate. So, While Mazur has played many Protosses and Terrans in the Altitude Nation Wars, none of these Terrans and Protosses were of high enough caliber to really take advantage of Mazur's weaknesses. Mazur's PvZ is A caliber so naturally, even if his PvT and PvP are weaker, B-/B players will not be able to exploit this. Realistically, Heroes and LML are not good illustrations for PvP, LML is B- and Heroes is better in his other match ups. Also, M is just a B rank Terran yet he still managed to take a game off Mazur. So while the statistics would say that his other match ups are up to par, they really aren't which is what I was saying previously about Poland still being mortal, most of their players have very specific strengths which could hurt them against a very well prepared team. Now, off the subject of his other races, Mazur's PvZ while this is his best match up and it's capable of defeating any foreign Zerg, its predictable. It's the same early Zealot aggression, cannon rush(if unseen), very little mid game, massive lategame. He plays the same style every game of course because it works and the more familiar he is, the better he'll be at repeating that style, however the reason I am putting all of this out there is not because I think for sure Mazur will lose, no, I think his chances of winning are probably around 80%, however, if any team could take him down, its the United States because as I've said previously, they seem to have the best staff as far as getting game insight.

SouthPark
Race:
Stats: 6-2 // 3-0
SouthPark is another player who has done extraordinarily well over the course of Nation Wars. He holds the second best score on team Poland and is nearly guaranteed to be their 2v2 player along with Lurek. Realistically, SouthPark's success in 1v1 is in no small portion due to his opponents not being prepared for his play style. He is very proficient within the ZvZ match up and can take any unsuspecting Terran and/or protoss. Though as we narrow down the competition, scenarios of unprepared players becomes more and more unlikely. There is not much real hope for a mid to late game win from SouthPark in these match ups. A solid two base play capable of holding off any muta/ling(for terran) and Hydra/ling(for Protoss) should make easy work at SouthPark. Any over expansion and greedy play will really be punished hard by SouthPark's micro oriented style. In terms of ZvZ, he'll be facing players of fairly even caliber. And so, it'll really come down to build orders and small variations in micro ability/stamina. So, SouthPark will most likely win the 2v2 unless somehow the united states learns to counter zz very well. Otherwise, I don't think he'll fair too well in a non-ZvZ 1v1, though this prediction really depends more on the preparation taken by his opponent then his own play.

Choosy
Race:
Stats: 6-3
Choosy is pretty much the opposite of his teammates, absolutely unpredictable to the largest possible extent. He is proficient in all three races, however, realistically, he should refrain from playing Terran being as it's his weakest and I don't expect him to. So, Choosy is a very knowledgeable player which always has an interesting play to pull out on his opponent with both Protoss and Zerg. There is no real easy way to counter Choosy aside from good scouting and overall stronger play. Being as he can't be predicted, there wont be any win based on preparation. Choosy on his own is deadly to start with, however he's even more dangerous given proper preparation. He is basically the master of countering a predictable player which of course has to be taken into account by his opponent's scouting. Against an even strength opponent, it'll really come down to scouting and proper response timings. Choosy can defeat almost any player on team USA, however he can also be defeated by any of their players.

TrutaCz
Race:
Stats: 5-2 // 3-3
TrutaCz is a very proficient 2v2 player which really makes him a lot like SouthPark as far as skill. However, TrutaCz puts in a greater effort to play standard in 1v1 games. His ZvZ is obviously his best match up considering that he is such a micro oriented player. However, his other match ups don't really hold up. His late game play really is not up to par and so any player who can make it past the mid game should be able to take a series against TrutaCz. Now, I really think out of all the players on team Poland, TrutaCz is the least likely to gather a win vT or vP, however, he has the best vZ.

Pike
Race:
Stats: 4-1
Pike is another of the more well rounded players from Poland. Though, given the situation, I think he'd be best suited against Semih or Jumper as he has shown great skills in ZvP in the past which is probably his best match up. I don't think he would fare was well against flip or Michael in ZvZ and while he could take out Game, I think he would be better off taking a Protoss opponent being as he is more proficient in this match up than the other players on his team. There is no real easy way of defeating Pike, really just comes down to outplaying him, there is no big risk of cheese and he doesn't use outrageous builds, he's a solid standard zerg players.

SneazeL
Race:
Stats: 3-1
SneazeL is one of the players who could play, but I do not expect to see. As far as I know, he hasn't been very active if at all. Active, SneazeL is most proficient in PvT and PvP with his PvZ trailing slightly behind. While he is active, SneazeL is probably the most well rounded and the top player from Poland. However, this doesn't seem to be the case and if he is indeed inactive, I don't see how he would be able to pull a win against players who are specifically practicing for this one nation war. While SneazeL is a very strong replacement player while inactive, he is not a top line player and as I stated in the Semi-Final thread, it shows the depth of the Polish team to have too many top tier players and the inability to fit them all in a lineup.

Track Reccord

Regular Season
Stats: 5-1
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed] +

4-2 L - Russia
4-3 W - Eastern Europe
4-2 W - Hungary
4-2 W - Russia
5-1 W - Hungary
5-1 W - Eastern Europe


Playoffs
Stats: 3-0
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed] +

4-2 W - Asia Pacific
5-1 W - Germany
5-1 W - Latin America


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The United States are currently undefeated in the Altitude Nation Wars, in general, their matches have been slightly easier than Poland's Opposition, however, having won 4 Nation Wars against Semi-Finalist teams is no easy feat. So it's really difficult to say how much harder of a progression Poland had. Though, we can't take away from the team's dedication nor their leadership for getting them this far.

Top Players
Michael
Race:
Stats: 6-1
Michael is the absolute best the United States have, the team rests on his shoulders, the team cannot win if Michael loses. This is a difficult feat for Michael being as 3 of the 5 players who will be playing for Poland are vZ specialists. So, Michael is going to have his biggest challenge yet this week. Though, Michael cannot do it alone this time, being as Poland has a 2v2 lineup(arguably the best in the world) and has a full line up of 5 players, he will also need his team's support this time. I have no doubt that Michael is fully capable of winning his games being as he has shown he can play under pressure, being 1 loss away from having the United States eliminated from the competition, beating Pro7ect, cvcvbvbv and The.WK. Michael is a monster and he can only hope that his team will be able to provide him with the two wins he needs to take the ace match. Now, Michael is a very cheesy player, he loves his cheese and it's actually quite good for him because, while he is an expert at these cheesy plays, he's also one of the best standard players in the foreign scene. So people can't commit to anything, if you play a 2v2 player, you can recognize they'll probably cheese and overcompensate a little bit because they won't be able to follow up. If you're playing Michael, you can't overcompensate on defense because he'll destroy you in the long game and if you cut corners because you fear his late game, he'll destroy you with a hydra bust. There's just no real good way to go about stopping Michael. And as I was talking about above, he is the only reason the United States is still in the competition and he'll be the reason if they win it (No pressure).

Game
Race:
Stats: 7-1
Game has played remarkably well in the Altitude Nation Wars, winning all of his sets up to the quarter finals, beating players such as Must and CaStrO even taking a set off the beast that is The.WK. Now, he only needs to take one more set and the United States will really be looking at him to do so. Though as I understand it, Game was recently injured and so, he may not be in full shape for this NW, and if this is the case it'll really be quite bad for the United States because they need him more than they ever have. Game would probably want to be matched up against Choosy, SouthPark or Mazur. These opponents would probably be best for Game and I would guess that he could beat anyone one of these while in shape, however, none of them are a guarantee. There is no telling what shape he'll be in this Saturday and so it is difficult to make a prediction.

Jumper
Race:
Stats: 5-2
Jumper has been playing great as of late, unfortunately he wasn't tested in the Semi-Final match like he was in the Quarter Finals. It would have been nice to see how he would have done against some of the top Chinese players, however, that's behind us and fact is, Jumper is a total beast, being one of the top players on team USA and being an alternative ace for Michael in Gt. He specializes in PvT, however this is a bit unfortunate for him because there aren't any Terran players on team Poland that will be playing 1v1. So he'll probably end up with a PvZ, which is definitely preferred over PvP, being as his PvP is definitely below par. I would be expecting Jumper to want a pair up against either SouthPark or TrutaCz, being as I haven't really witnessed many PvZ games from Jumper, it's really quite hard to judge what kind of play style would counter him. Jumper's fate will inevitably be determined by his match up because I don't think he will be able to win a PvP nor is he of the same skill as Pike to be honest. He could have a good chance against SouthPark, TrutaCz and Choosy though, since their standard games aren't the strongest.

fLIp
Race:
Stats: 2-1
fLIp is basically one of the less consistant players in foreign tournament play. He's one of the guys where you can say "I know this guy is good, but I rarely have seen impressive games from him". This needs to change and the United States is really going to need a win from him, he's been active on ladder, however missed his semi-final match and that poses another problem, it's not only that he's inconsistent with his skill level, but also, he doesn't consistently show up which is best illustrated with his stats. fLIp showed for 2 NWs this season and there is no telling whether he will show or not this time. I think he would fair well in a ZvZ but, lets face it most of the Zergs on Poland are ZvZ masters and so, it doesn't really make sense that he would want one of these players aside from maybe Pike whom is better in ZvP. In the end, fLIp is really a loose cannon, there's no telling if he'll be there or if he'll be ready to win.

Semih
Race:
Stats: 2-1 // 1-2
Either Semih or LuMiX will be playing the 2v2 along side with Game, from the looks of it, there is a good possibility that Semih will be in the lineup on Saturday, however, for this to be true, he first has to show up. which like fLIp, Semih hasn't been the most reliable player ever. Now, with that being said, if he does show, I'm not exactly sure who he'd be better matched against because he has been inactive in the foreign scene for a good chunk of time and has played a minor amount of non-ladder games since his return. With that being said, if he can, the United States will be looking at having him snipe Mazur, if not, then they'll probably be trying to match him up against one of the less Macro oriented Zergs.

Modesty
Race:
Stats: 3-4
Modesty has performed decently for team USA, he's not had particularly good results, but they haven't been terrible either. He has played his part for them as far as reliability, so I expect him to show up on Saturday, but he's not expected to play. I think they'll have a 5 man lineup which is superior skill to Modesty, though by no means is he a bad backup player. And given the consistency of some of the other players showing, there is a decent chance that he'll be forced into the line up.

Track Record

Regular Season
Stats: 6-0
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed] +

5-1 W - Asia Pacific
5-1 W - Central Europe
4-3 W - Canada
4-3 W - Asia Pacific
4-0 W - Canada
6-0 W - Central Europe


Playoffs
Stats: 3-0
+ Show Spoiler [Detailed] +

4-3 W - Russia
4-2 W - Latin America
4-3 W - Asia Pacific



+ Show Spoiler [ Prediction] +

4-2 Poland

Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10158 Posts
January 12 2012 00:28 GMT
#2
GOGOGO USA!!! USA!!!
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
January 12 2012 00:40 GMT
#3
AMERICA

AAAAAAAAAMERICA
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
January 12 2012 00:44 GMT
#4
^ ^
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Exil
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland88 Posts
January 12 2012 00:53 GMT
#5
no way, ez for poland
:)
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines399 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 01:32:25
January 12 2012 01:32 GMT
#6
Go Mazur! Go Pike! Go Poland! but flip <3!
NrT.Artunit
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
January 12 2012 02:50 GMT
#7
On January 12 2012 09:40 flamewheel wrote:
AMERICA

AAAAAAAAAMERICA

Voice recognition program enabled... Invalid entry... Did you mean Michael Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiichaaaaaaaaaael?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
RonNation
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States385 Posts
January 12 2012 03:22 GMT
#8
U S A
U S A

GO JUMPER

hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
January 12 2012 03:59 GMT
#9
flip< Jade >mazur
modesty< Electric Circuit >pike
jumper< Troy >choosey
game< Ground Zero >sneazel
michael< Destination >southpark
game lumix< La Mancha >southpark trutacz
michael< Neo Aztec >mazur

Predicting the upset, go USA! I'm glad that Poland is the other team to make it to the finals, I think they have the most entertaining lineups of any of the teams.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
January 12 2012 05:17 GMT
#10
On January 12 2012 12:59 hacklebeast wrote:
flip< Jade >mazur
modesty< Electric Circuit >pike
jumper< Troy >choosey
game< Ground Zero >sneazel
michael< Destination >southpark
game lumix< La Mancha >southpark trutacz
michael< Neo Aztec >mazur

Predicting the upset, go USA! I'm glad that Poland is the other team to make it to the finals, I think they have the most entertaining lineups of any of the teams.

The Prediction is not impossible as far as score, but the line ups are absolutely impossible ;d
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
January 12 2012 06:20 GMT
#11
Michael going to be playing in 3 sets most likely. :p
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
January 12 2012 06:42 GMT
#12
On January 12 2012 15:20 Metal[x] wrote:
Michael going to be playing in 3 sets most likely. :p

If that's an accurate report on your 2v2 line up imma laugh my ass off (not because I don't think Michael should be playing 2v2 but because its stupid to reveal your lineup prior to the game ;d)
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
January 12 2012 06:59 GMT
#13
Lineup doesn't matter in terms of 2v2. Well not for me at least. :o
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 12 2012 07:52 GMT
#14
go go Poland !!!

we shall take this !!!

T H C makes ppl happy
PiKe
Profile Joined July 2005
Poland181 Posts
January 12 2012 10:46 GMT
#15
hacklebeast xDDDDD

POLAND FTW EZZZ
ggnore
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 14:31:54
January 12 2012 12:17 GMT
#16
Hoping that USA's top players will actually show up to this one :S

Also, Mazur 8-0 so gosu.

Edit: wait...you put Troy in the map pool?!
SouthPark
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland143 Posts
January 12 2012 15:29 GMT
#17
Hacklebeast :D You really believe that Poland will lose 2x2? Predictions 6:0 Poland!


GL!
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
January 12 2012 15:40 GMT
#18
POLAND IMBA! !!!!!!!
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
January 12 2012 17:14 GMT
#19
Really nice decision mega admin Eywa, "Give me your player or it will be W.O for USA" -.-
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
January 12 2012 17:22 GMT
#20
On January 13 2012 02:14 Mazur wrote:
Really nice decision mega admin Eywa, "Give me your player or it will be W.O for USA" -.-


What is this about?
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
January 12 2012 17:26 GMT
#21
Thers one game PP, With witch i dont have a problem, the problem is that I didnt want to tell Eywa my player if he wont send me a ss with USA player right after. And it ended with a statement like that above. I MUST GIVE HIM A PLAYER WHEN HE WANTS OR HE'LL: GIVE W/O TO USA -.-
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 17:29:57
January 12 2012 17:28 GMT
#22
On January 13 2012 02:22 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:14 Mazur wrote:
Really nice decision mega admin Eywa, "Give me your player or it will be W.O for USA" -.-


What is this about?

It's about people refusing to provide a draw.

I didn't resort to that statement untill already 30 minutes + of talking. I can't waste my time running after teams for their draws/etc. When I ask for one, they have to provide it.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
January 12 2012 17:30 GMT
#23
It's about ppl making an opportunity to cheat.
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 17:37:59
January 12 2012 17:36 GMT
#24
On January 13 2012 02:30 Mazur wrote:
It's about ppl making an opportunity to cheat.


I agree with this. I don't see the point of him sending you the player so far in advance.

Also, when exactly is the match PP'd to? That means we won't even get to know the results of the finals on Saturday?
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 17:42:49
January 12 2012 17:40 GMT
#25
On January 13 2012 02:36 Sayle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:30 Mazur wrote:
It's about ppl making an opportunity to cheat.


I agree with this. I don't see the point of him sending you the player so far in advance.

Also, when exactly is the match PP'd to? That means we won't even get to know the results of the finals on Saturday?

._. dude, I can send you logs of everything I've chatted with nOoNe/Game since getting the draw. All that was said was "Make sure you get their player an advance so they can't switch" - From nOoNe "I have it" - Me.

Like I have said before, this has always been the procedure for PP matches and I've never cheated in the past. Quite frankly I don't understand why Mazur would waste my time given the leagues I'm managing.

Also, in response to your edit, it's in 1 hour.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 17:46:30
January 12 2012 17:45 GMT
#26
I told u that I can send u my player, then you will send to me the usa player, to usa leader the PL player, It wouldt be a problem, but u made it a problem saying U HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW and that If I refuse to make a draw then u'll give a W/O to US... Frankly, I dont belive that you're sideless.
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
January 12 2012 17:47 GMT
#27
On January 13 2012 02:45 Mazur wrote:
I told u that I can send u my player, then you will send to me the usa player, to usa leader the PL player, It wouldt be a problem, but u made it a problem saying U HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW and that If I refuse to make a draw then u'll give a W/O to US... Frankly, I dont belive that you're sideless.

Dude, I haven't sent it to either of you yet. Chill.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
January 12 2012 17:53 GMT
#28
Good thing Mazur aint stupid. With lineup cheat USA could even up the teams strength disadvantage
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
January 12 2012 17:56 GMT
#29
On January 13 2012 02:47 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:45 Mazur wrote:
I told u that I can send u my player, then you will send to me the usa player, to usa leader the PL player, It wouldt be a problem, but u made it a problem saying U HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW and that If I refuse to make a draw then u'll give a W/O to US... Frankly, I dont belive that you're sideless.

Dude, I haven't sent it to either of you yet. Chill.


And I should be sure of it why... ?
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
January 12 2012 18:25 GMT
#30
On January 13 2012 02:56 Mazur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:47 Eywa- wrote:
On January 13 2012 02:45 Mazur wrote:
I told u that I can send u my player, then you will send to me the usa player, to usa leader the PL player, It wouldt be a problem, but u made it a problem saying U HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW and that If I refuse to make a draw then u'll give a W/O to US... Frankly, I dont belive that you're sideless.

Dude, I haven't sent it to either of you yet. Chill.


And I should be sure of it why... ?


of him cheating.but not tell this to one.its secret :D
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
January 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#31
game and eywa would never abuse their orga positions ;-)

gl both teams, i hope we get some great games to watch.
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
PiKe
Profile Joined July 2005
Poland181 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 19:13:09
January 12 2012 19:08 GMT
#32
wtf is going on >.<
ggnore
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 19:08:27
January 12 2012 19:08 GMT
#33
On January 13 2012 04:06 EnjoYmE wrote:
game and eywa would never abuse their orga positions ;-)



gl both teams, i hope we get some great games to watch.

R U Trolling me ;d? didnt u see what Joekim did write ?
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 19:08:57
January 12 2012 19:08 GMT
#34
On January 13 2012 04:08 PiKe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:14 Mazur wrote:
Really nice decision mega admin Eywa, "Give me your player or it will be W.O for USA" -.-


whooooot ? wtf is going on ? o.o


well i think he says that to all teams
said that to us too
BW forever!
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
January 12 2012 19:36 GMT
#35
On January 13 2012 04:08 Mazur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:06 EnjoYmE wrote:
game and eywa would never abuse their orga positions ;-)



gl both teams, i hope we get some great games to watch.

R U Trolling me ;d? didnt u see what Joekim did write ?

I agree, don't trust me because Joekim said game cheats! I hear Joekim was a real straight shooter!
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
January 12 2012 20:02 GMT
#36
On January 13 2012 04:08 HaFnium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:08 PiKe wrote:
On January 13 2012 02:14 Mazur wrote:
Really nice decision mega admin Eywa, "Give me your player or it will be W.O for USA" -.-


whooooot ? wtf is going on ? o.o


well i think he says that to all teams
said that to us too

Actually with Fold it was worse, Mazur didn't bring me to the point of counting down. It's a game of chicken, one which I will always win by default because weather I win the game of chicken or not, the player still loses ;D.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:34:25
January 12 2012 20:30 GMT
#37
On January 13 2012 05:02 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:08 HaFnium wrote:
On January 13 2012 04:08 PiKe wrote:
On January 13 2012 02:14 Mazur wrote:
Really nice decision mega admin Eywa, "Give me your player or it will be W.O for USA" -.-


whooooot ? wtf is going on ? o.o


well i think he says that to all teams
said that to us too

Actually with Fold it was worse, Mazur didn't bring me to the point of counting down. It's a game of chicken, one which I will always win by default because weather I win the game of chicken or not, the player still loses ;D.


well at least u are fair to everyone ^^
in some aspects I do agree with u, u just want to simplify the process and make life easier

however on that day some plaeyrs werent there so we couldnt decide~
and reveal later = more suspence

edit: deleted something
BW forever!
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:54:04
January 12 2012 20:47 GMT
#38
Judging from the previous games VS Poland/USA
I'd say overall Poland should be better.
However if US somehow makes it into ACE match (Through some good match-ups/2v2) then I think USA does have a chance as Individually Michael might be the best of this lot...

Hopefully there'll be an exciting series~
BW forever!
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 21:26:28
January 12 2012 21:23 GMT
#39
With a lone exeption of Fantasy and SKT1, I have a really bad luck with my teams and favorite players, so i predict that:



(song: "Jinxed like a Pole" by BigCyc)
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
KT Practice
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden20 Posts
January 12 2012 21:23 GMT
#40
On January 13 2012 02:45 Mazur wrote:
I told u that I can send u my player, then you will send to me the usa player, to usa leader the PL player, It wouldt be a problem, but u made it a problem saying U HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW and that If I refuse to make a draw then u'll give a W/O to US... Frankly, I dont belive that you're sideless.


How do you think Proleague handles this? The way you want it or the way Eywa does it?

Obviously preparation time is a huge factor and announcing the opponent to each team at the same times gives an equal advantage. There would definitely be a fuss if that wasn't the case.

If you don't trust the organizer why are you even participating? Stop causing drama and just leave us alone.

//Prowler
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists" Midas
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
January 12 2012 21:44 GMT
#41
On January 13 2012 04:08 Mazur wrote:
R U Trolling me ;d?

definitely

On January 13 2012 04:08 Mazur wrote:
didnt u see what Joekim did write ?

nope
aka EnjoYmE - streaming on http://www.twitch.tv/myprobe
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
January 13 2012 00:41 GMT
#42
On January 13 2012 06:23 KT Practice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:45 Mazur wrote:
I told u that I can send u my player, then you will send to me the usa player, to usa leader the PL player, It wouldt be a problem, but u made it a problem saying U HAVE TO HAVE IT NOW and that If I refuse to make a draw then u'll give a W/O to US... Frankly, I dont belive that you're sideless.


How do you think Proleague handles this? The way you want it or the way Eywa does it?

Obviously preparation time is a huge factor and announcing the opponent to each team at the same times gives an equal advantage. There would definitely be a fuss if that wasn't the case.

If you don't trust the organizer why are you even participating? Stop causing drama and just leave us alone.

//Prowler


PL dose not PP games.If there would not be any pp games there would not be a problem.
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
January 13 2012 01:07 GMT
#43
--- Nuked ---
Mazur
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland476 Posts
January 13 2012 01:12 GMT
#44
On January 13 2012 10:07 Jumperer wrote:
hey mazur you are doing it wrong. Please wait for your team to lose first before coming up with excuses.


I think ill leave it to your team.
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
January 13 2012 01:49 GMT
#45
wow. i cant wait to see these guys play.
Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
January 13 2012 03:17 GMT
#46
If Game wins, I will sponsor ISL3 with a yearlong Amazon subscription to monthly 24-packs of Chef Boyardee Ravioli.
coffeetoss | "Team Liquid Fantasy Proleague: Tales of Miserable Failure and Deep Regret" -Kanil
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 13 2012 10:57 GMT
#47
lol wtf is going on here ? o.0
T H C makes ppl happy
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6590 Posts
January 13 2012 11:35 GMT
#48
hmm good luck proland.but guys i think with this orga ur chaces to win are very low T_T
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3128 Posts
January 13 2012 11:49 GMT
#49
USA USA USA!!!
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Kici
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland57 Posts
January 13 2012 12:20 GMT
#50
Gogo
P(R)OLAND!
Boxer :*
insanesky
Profile Joined July 2009
Poland24 Posts
January 13 2012 13:19 GMT
#51
gogo SouthPark, and whole P(r)oland team, proud of you guys!
iS powah
dOTY
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany483 Posts
January 13 2012 14:00 GMT
#52
On January 13 2012 12:17 Trap wrote:
If Game wins, I will sponsor ISL3 with a yearlong Amazon subscription to monthly 24-packs of Chef Boyardee Ravioli.


LOOOOOL made my day <3<3<3
It’s cool to cry, don’t ever question your strength .
SKiller
Profile Joined November 2011
Poland39 Posts
January 13 2012 18:35 GMT
#53
GoGO Poland!
"More GG, more skill" White Ra
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
January 13 2012 19:13 GMT
#54
Semifinals VOD:+ Show Spoiler +
blanks.yuC
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland61 Posts
January 14 2012 11:30 GMT
#55
Poland EZZZ
Come at me bro!
LittLeLives
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States692 Posts
January 14 2012 18:09 GMT
#56
needs more hype
+ Show Spoiler +
go land of the free
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 14 2012 18:21 GMT
#57
noooooooooooooooooooo jumper T-T
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
January 14 2012 18:42 GMT
#58
Stream online now
Game vs trutacz
BW forever!
HaFnium
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United Kingdom1074 Posts
January 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#59
why is the event not on the tl calander T_T
tune in fellas!
BW forever!
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 18:52:50
January 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#60
where the hell is the stream ?!?

edit: Sayle's streaming

but I dont know why its not in the streams list on the right... -,-
T H C makes ppl happy
Mewka
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland1458 Posts
January 14 2012 18:52 GMT
#61
Poland will win
Mewka, Mewka[AoV], Fox.Mewka, Mewman
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 14 2012 19:32 GMT
#62
can somebody post the lineups here ? the pairings

would be cool
T H C makes ppl happy
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 14 2012 19:54 GMT
#63
hahaha... oh.my.god.

that game... xD looolz
T H C makes ppl happy
PiKe
Profile Joined July 2005
Poland181 Posts
January 14 2012 19:56 GMT
#64
TrutaCz vs Game
Mazur vs Modesty
Choosy vs Michael
SouthPark vs Semih
Pike vs Jumper
ggnore
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
January 14 2012 20:01 GMT
#65
wow clutch maels. my god. i never knew that skill existed
mevshero
Profile Joined December 2009
911 Posts
January 14 2012 20:02 GMT
#66
i really love that double commentator thing.
even if it's hard, it kind of reminds me of the good old TSL days... <3
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 14 2012 20:10 GMT
#67
On January 15 2012 04:56 PiKe wrote:
TrutaCz vs Game
Mazur vs Modesty
Choosy vs Michael
SouthPark vs Semih
Pike vs Jumper

thanks
T H C makes ppl happy
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
January 14 2012 20:10 GMT
#68
yes, please do more double commentators.
i rmb how day9 and chill made fun in a boring game.
SC forever!
mevshero
Profile Joined December 2009
911 Posts
January 14 2012 20:13 GMT
#69
On January 15 2012 05:10 stevewch wrote:
yes, please do more double commentators.
i rmb how day9 and chill made fun in a boring game.


oh yeah damn, the day+chill casts were so much more amazing than tasteless+artosis
i definitely gotta watch the old tsl1 games on yt again soon, especially that game on outsider (?) between mondragon and this romanian terran :D
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
January 14 2012 20:15 GMT
#70
DAT BALD EAGLE. gogogo usa fighting
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 14 2012 20:34 GMT
#71
wtf lol..
T H C makes ppl happy
icyF
Profile Joined June 2008
Finland305 Posts
January 14 2012 21:08 GMT
#72
what is this..i dont even
mjf
Profile Joined April 2010
United States436 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 21:24:55
January 14 2012 21:24 GMT
#73
lol this clan they're talking about.. i would be swordfish

go usa
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 14 2012 21:32 GMT
#74
On January 15 2012 06:24 mjf wrote:
lol this clan they're talking about.. i would be swordfish

go usa

no chance go go Poland !!!

I would be like

Kraken or something..

its technically a fish right ?

lol..
T H C makes ppl happy
mortines
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland1 Post
January 14 2012 22:20 GMT
#75
MIAZZZZZZZZZZGEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDD
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
January 14 2012 22:26 GMT
#76
congrats poland!
Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
January 15 2012 00:23 GMT
#77
Gj Semih, way to carry the team per usual

lol congrats Poland
Luck makes talent look like genius.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 15 2012 02:29 GMT
#78
Wow two 1-2 losses, that sux...!~

so close.
Choosy
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland40 Posts
January 15 2012 08:07 GMT
#79
GG :>
I am hero
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
January 15 2012 12:09 GMT
#80
Wow...PL won...FUCK YEAH!
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
January 15 2012 13:27 GMT
#81
--- Nuked ---
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
January 15 2012 15:13 GMT
#82
I'd like to first of all, congratulate Poland on their victory and their ongoing commitment.

I'd also like to thank all the teams who have made themselves nice to deal with. Your good manners are appreciated. I hope everyone enjoyed this first season and I wish you all good luck in other tournaments.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
LRM)Semih
Profile Joined October 2011
United States9 Posts
January 15 2012 15:30 GMT
#83
gg's poland, congrats
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 15 2012 22:02 GMT
#84
I really need to get into the foreign scene. When is this being streamed?
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
January 15 2012 22:16 GMT
#85
GGs to proland, too good!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
January 16 2012 01:22 GMT
#86
On January 16 2012 07:02 TheShimmy wrote:
I really need to get into the foreign scene. When is this being streamed?

It was streamed yesterday.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 16 2012 21:00 GMT
#87
On January 16 2012 10:22 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 07:02 TheShimmy wrote:
I really need to get into the foreign scene. When is this being streamed?

It was streamed yesterday.



I noticed

I really wanna get more into the foreign scene.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
BygoneEra
Profile Joined February 2012
Great Britain11 Posts
February 02 2012 06:27 GMT
#88
I noticed Semih showed some really intelligent play in this tournament. Congrats to Poland even though I rooted for USA.
Dana44
Profile Joined December 2011
Poland29 Posts
June 09 2012 12:03 GMT
#89
EZ PZ poland !
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 09 2012 12:18 GMT
#90
I suddenly have the urge to celebrate some american victory.

BRB going to go bump a thread about the spanish american war.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
June 09 2012 13:02 GMT
#91
What a totally unnecessary necro
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
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