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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:06 Sawamura wrote: Protoss of all time can win an osl , bisu hasn't never win an osl , reach is clearly better than pretty boy bisu -_-. It's based on records and achievement dude, not performance in a specific league. Stork is the only one that comes close, but he failed to get his 3rd OSL (vs Fantasy), and so still behind. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:11 kamikami wrote: It's based on records and achievement dude, not performance in a specific league. Stork is the only one that comes close, but he failed to get his 3rd OSL (vs Fantasy), and so still behind. Record and achievement pffff , individual leagues is where the importance lies in , your individual skill that set's your higher than the other competitors who are playing the same game . Sadly bisu doesn't have that kind of skill to deliver and win an osl . Of course if he does win hat's off to him and until than . Insert (any protoss osl champion ) is better than bisu . | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:06 Sawamura wrote: Protoss of all time can win an osl , bisu hasn't never win an osl , reach is clearly better than pretty boy bisu -_-. Hahaha yea this was obviously coming. Everytime you lose an argument, or everytime our OSL-less Bisu crushed your sorry excuses for players (with the exception of Flash), you come back to your OSL argument in a sad attempt to bring him down. In all honesty though, we won today, so it is probably a bad idea to pick a fight. The wind isn't blowing in your favor. On January 07 2012 21:15 Sawamura wrote: Record and achievement pffff , individual leagues is where the importance lies in , your individual skill that set's your higher than the other competitors who are playing the same game . Sadly bisu doesn't have that kind of skill to deliver and win an osl . Of course if he does win hat's off to him and until than . Insert (any protoss osl champion ) is better than bisu . I do hope you will remember these words when we talk about Stats the next time  . | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:15 ffreakk wrote: Hahaha yea this was obviously coming. Everytime you lose an argument, or everytime our OSL-less Bisu crushed your sorry excuses for players (with the exception of Flash), you come back to your OSL argument in a sad attempt to bring him down. In all honesty though, we won today, so it is probably a bad idea to pick a fight. The wind isn't blowing in your favor. Yeah I dare bisu to play straight game versus wooki and I can bet he was feeling that he is going to lose if he played it up straight . Manly indeed , to do a strategy where if you don't scout , leads to an auto loss for the other protoss player. | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:15 Sawamura wrote: Record and achievement pffff , individual leagues is where the importance lies in , your individual skill that set's your higher than the other competitors who are playing the same game . Sadly bisu doesn't have that kind of skill to deliver and win an osl . Of course if he does win hat's off to him and until than . Insert (any protoss osl champion ) is better than bisu . He won 3 individual leagues, that's what made him the toss of all time (until someone achieves the same thing). Even progamers said so, what the hell was you talking about ? | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:23 kamikami wrote: He won 3 individual leagues, that's what made them the toss of all time (until someone achieves the same thing). Even progamers said so, what the hell was you talking about ? You know who is a protoss of all time to me ??? Bisu is not one , Reach , Anytime , Nal_Ra are much more better candidates than him . | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:25 Sawamura wrote: You know who is a protoss of all time to me ??? Bisu is not one , Reach , Anytime , Nal_Ra are much more better candidates than him . And who care about your opinion lol. Paralyze is the toss of all time for me, yeah. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:27 kamikami wrote: And who care about your opinion lol. Paralyze is the toss of all time for me, yeah. Lol that's the point , You guy's don't want to admit , Bisu is not worthy of a all time protoss if he can't win the prestigious osl . It's just too bad because any significant protoss player would have been able to do it . But your so call revolutionist ? Can't ever translate a single osl win for him self . | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:29 Sawamura wrote: Lol that's the point , You guy's don't want to admit , Bisu is not worthy of a all time protoss if he can't win the prestigious osl . It's just too bad because any significant protoss player would have been able to do it . But your so call revolutionist ? Can't ever translate a single osl win for him self . Lol ok, osl is the only factor to count, winning 3 msl doesn't mean anything lol, and sorry, bisu is the toss with the best record of all time, this is just a fact, which can be easily verified by counting the number of invidual leagues he won. It's you who have to admit your illogical point of view lol. First you said "individual leagues" are the only things that matter, but since you discover that Bisu happened to win 3 individual leagues and no other toss seems to achieve the same thing, you said "osl" is the only thing that matters lol. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:37 kamikami wrote: Lol ok, osl is the only factor to count, winning 3 msl doesn't mean anything lol, and sorry, bisu is the toss with the best record of all time, this is just a fact, which can be easily verified by counting the number of invidual leagues he won. It's you who have to admit your illogical point of view lol. Osl has always been considered a much more prestigious league compared to the MSL -_- , So as long as bisu doesn't win an osl , you can't nominate him as protoss of all time . Totally lol for my view to be illogical if he cant satisfy a basic criteria that is to win a simple osl . Don't win an osl , you simply won't be nominated as the best protoss . | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:40 Sawamura wrote: Osl has always been considered a much more higher league than MSL -_- , So as long as bisu doesn't win an osl , you can't nominate him as protoss of all time . Totally lol for my view to be illogical if he cant satisfy a basic criteria that is to win a simple osl . Yeah sorry but "protoss with the best record of all time" title has been given to him by esport reporters and commentators here and there for a long time already (because it's just too easy to verify), I don't even need to nominate him lol. You can keep your own criteria, no one care about it. And please stop saying what I can and what I cannot, it's none of your business. Also, MSL = OSL in term of competition, no league is "harder" or "easier" than the other. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:48 kamikami wrote: Yeah sorry but "protoss with the best record of all time" title has been given to him by esport reporters and commentators here and there for a long time already (because it's just too easy to verify), I don't even need to nominate him lol. You can keep your own criteria, no one care about it. And please stop saying what I can and what I cannot, it's none of your business. Lol who is limiting what you can and can't ?????? As long as he doesn't prove that he can take an osl he ain't the number one protoss in the world . | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:50 Sawamura wrote: Lol who is limiting what you can and can't ?????? As long as he doesn't prove that he can take an osl he ain't the number one protoss in the world . Only to you, and we were talking about the toss with the best achievement of all time, not the "number one" toss in the world. He is the toss with the best achievements of all time, this is just a fact which can easily be verified by clicking on his page on TLPD. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 07 2012 21:54 kamikami wrote: Only to you, and we were talking about the toss with the best achievement of all time, not the "number one" toss in the world. He is the toss with the best achievements of all time, this is just a fact which can easily be verified by clicking on his page on TLPD. Like I said Stork,Jangbi,Anytime , Reach and Nal_Ra , makes your "so called " better achievement player look's really shallow . How is he better than all this player if he can't win an osl ? | ||
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cybertopo
Spain525 Posts
Also, most wins on PL. Edit: Last post for me, you are either a blind fanboy or a troll. Enjoy your loss today. | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
Nal_ra cheesed plenty of times, way more than Bisu did. Why don't you rag on him? Seriously, I'm being objective here but you're just hating for the sake of hating with no logical back-up. | ||
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jaQi
1121 Posts
@Sawamura: Your criterion is completely bullshit. Look at the list of guys who have won an OSL. Is each of them considered one of the alltime best player of his race? You are just pointing on things that Bisu does not have, if you compare the things he actually has achieved (MSL, PL) then it is just stupid, if you can't nominate him as one of the candidates for best P of all time. But maybe your hate against him (where ever it comes from) is just too big and makes you blind. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 07 2012 22:00 cybertopo wrote: OSL is the same thing as a MSL, do Jaedong and Flash participate on MSLs? Yes. OSL having more production value and being the original doesn't mean that is more prestigious. Also, most wins on PL. Edit: Last post for me, you are either a blind fanboy or a troll. Enjoy your loss today. Am I troll for saying wooki shouldn't follow Bisu footstep's after what he did to the poor rookie today ??? Yeah KT FLASH is good I am loving it . On January 07 2012 22:05 Dakkas wrote: Sawamura, honest question though blunt, are you still a teenager? I haven't seen such butt-hurt drivel like yours in a long time. Nal_ra cheesed plenty of times, way more than Bisu did. Why don't you rag on him? Seriously, I'm being objective here but you're just hating for the sake of hating with no logical back-up. Being objective my ass , I didn't started the hate band wagon , I was merely stating that wooki shouldn't follow bisu foot steps after cheese shenanigans that he pulled it out on him today . But Noooooooooo , people have to come and tell me wooki should aspire to be like bisu so he can become as good as him to cheese a poor rookie in a box game . | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
[QUOTE]Being objective my ass , I didn't started the hate band wagon , I was merely stating that wooki shouldn't follow bisu foot steps after cheese shenanigans that he pulled it out on him today . But Noooooooooo , people have to come and tell me wooki should aspire to be like bisu so he can become as good as him to cheese a poor rookie in a box game .[/QUOTE] I see you completely ignored what I was saying | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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