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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
January 06 2012 06:16 GMT
#161
LR thread is already at 7 pages of hype and smack talk 2 days before the match? Must be SKT VS KT.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 06 2012 06:26 GMT
#162
On January 06 2012 15:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 15:04 ffreakk wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm not going to be part of this shitfest, started once again by the usual suspects, you know who you are you 3..

shit should come out of my ass not my mouth.


C'mon, it's difficult to support a losing team i know.. But you have to at least try, since you are wearing a Rolster icon, no?

On January 06 2012 11:24 George_the_man wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:20 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:07 Kiett wrote:
And come on people, stop taking things so seriously. Trashtalk is the best part of any SKT vs. KT match ^__^
Just have fun with it.


I respectfully disagree, the best part of any SKT vs KT match is the part where we crush their ultimate weapon, see their players driven before us and hear the lamentation of their mascots!


and the worst part is when you wake up?


Hardly, the worst part is facing Reach, after we obliterated his team

@horusray

Isn't trashtalk the only reason one would come into an LR thread before the game? o.O That and wel... hype..

why do you post so much nonsense?

On the contrary, why do you post such short, concise nonsense?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 06 2012 06:29 GMT
#163
On January 06 2012 15:26 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 15:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 06 2012 15:04 ffreakk wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm not going to be part of this shitfest, started once again by the usual suspects, you know who you are you 3..

shit should come out of my ass not my mouth.


C'mon, it's difficult to support a losing team i know.. But you have to at least try, since you are wearing a Rolster icon, no?

On January 06 2012 11:24 George_the_man wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:20 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:07 Kiett wrote:
And come on people, stop taking things so seriously. Trashtalk is the best part of any SKT vs. KT match ^__^
Just have fun with it.


I respectfully disagree, the best part of any SKT vs KT match is the part where we crush their ultimate weapon, see their players driven before us and hear the lamentation of their mascots!


and the worst part is when you wake up?


Hardly, the worst part is facing Reach, after we obliterated his team

@horusray

Isn't trashtalk the only reason one would come into an LR thread before the game? o.O That and wel... hype..

why do you post so much nonsense?

On the contrary, why do you post such short, concise nonsense?


because I'm at a physics lecture.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 06 2012 06:33 GMT
#164
On January 06 2012 15:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 15:26 Lightwip wrote:
On January 06 2012 15:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 06 2012 15:04 ffreakk wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm not going to be part of this shitfest, started once again by the usual suspects, you know who you are you 3..

shit should come out of my ass not my mouth.


C'mon, it's difficult to support a losing team i know.. But you have to at least try, since you are wearing a Rolster icon, no?

On January 06 2012 11:24 George_the_man wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:20 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:07 Kiett wrote:
And come on people, stop taking things so seriously. Trashtalk is the best part of any SKT vs. KT match ^__^
Just have fun with it.


I respectfully disagree, the best part of any SKT vs KT match is the part where we crush their ultimate weapon, see their players driven before us and hear the lamentation of their mascots!


and the worst part is when you wake up?


Hardly, the worst part is facing Reach, after we obliterated his team

@horusray

Isn't trashtalk the only reason one would come into an LR thread before the game? o.O That and wel... hype..

why do you post so much nonsense?

On the contrary, why do you post such short, concise nonsense?


because I'm at a physics lecture.

I'll admit, that's a pretty good reason.
Physics feels so zetta slow when you first start to learn it.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 06 2012 06:37 GMT
#165
On January 06 2012 15:33 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 15:29 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 06 2012 15:26 Lightwip wrote:
On January 06 2012 15:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 06 2012 15:04 ffreakk wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:14 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'm not going to be part of this shitfest, started once again by the usual suspects, you know who you are you 3..

shit should come out of my ass not my mouth.


C'mon, it's difficult to support a losing team i know.. But you have to at least try, since you are wearing a Rolster icon, no?

On January 06 2012 11:24 George_the_man wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:20 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote:
On January 06 2012 11:07 Kiett wrote:
And come on people, stop taking things so seriously. Trashtalk is the best part of any SKT vs. KT match ^__^
Just have fun with it.


I respectfully disagree, the best part of any SKT vs KT match is the part where we crush their ultimate weapon, see their players driven before us and hear the lamentation of their mascots!


and the worst part is when you wake up?


Hardly, the worst part is facing Reach, after we obliterated his team

@horusray

Isn't trashtalk the only reason one would come into an LR thread before the game? o.O That and wel... hype..

why do you post so much nonsense?

On the contrary, why do you post such short, concise nonsense?


because I'm at a physics lecture.

I'll admit, that's a pretty good reason.
Physics feels so zetta slow when you first start to learn it.


sure it does feel like I'm learning the subject again
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
January 06 2012 06:40 GMT
#166
In an attempt to be unbiased, I'll just say our P line is > KT's and their T line is > ours... which leaves the determinant for victory as...

SKT Zergs vs KT Zergs, or a competition of who will fail less?

For SKT's part, we have the venerable and distinguished lineup of Captain s2, Former-Captain Hyuk (probably got promoted to Major or something - Major Hyuk, got a nice ring to it), and n.die_soO (my favorite of the bunch). Truth be told, that's a pretty bad lineup. But if you look a little deeper, you will see that we have:

1. normal ZvZ - s2/Hyuk
2. good ZvP - soO
3. lol ZvT - Hyuk

So that amounts to a normal Z lineup, depending on how well we snipe. I agree with the coaching analysis on SKT, in that their players tend to prepare for maps, and not specifically opponents except for the rare occasion when the ace is pretty obvious (ex: Flash). I do believe, however, that the Z lineup has potential if used not specifically on maps but to snipe players, as CJ is prone to do.The prep time allows an otherwise mediocre proleague member to become an asset because of the higher chance of upsetting someone with a snipe. In particular, I think the key snipe would be soO vs Stats because he's the KT player who's sure to be sent out looking for a win (aside from Flash, who's a sure win).

On KT's side we have CH, Action, and Hoejja. Again, it's not a very formidable lineup. But just like SKT, KT's Zerg line has it covered:

1. ZvZ - CH
2. ZvP - Hoejja
3. ZvT - Action

Actually, I'd consider KT's Zergs much better were it not for the fact that soO is a nightmare in ZvP. If KT can get CH the proper matchup, I believe the KT Zerg line is strong enough to put the fate of KT on the hands of Stats (since Flash, again, is a sure win by most standards). So really, the entire battle will be on how predictable KT can be for SKT on which map they'll put Stats on and in what matchup (since all matchups will potentially be difficult for him). If SKT is able to slug it out until they can snipe Stats with soO or Fantasy, then they win. Otherwise, if Stat gets a good matchup like Best or any non-soO Zerg, then that's 2 wins for KT with the final one being a good snipe using a Zerg.

So I dunno, I think the chances of both teams will fall upon how well their coaching staff can use their respective (and respectable?) Zerg lineups against the two star-driven teams. My guess is as good as yours, but I trust in SKT's firepower vs Stats and predict that we'll get this one 3-1, with BvZ, Fantasy vs Stats, and a clutch Zerg snipe on Action.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
January 06 2012 06:46 GMT
#167
That's so... inaccurate T_T

Their T line may be better than hours, but their T line can bring home ONE win at best (Mind isn't exactly part of their T line, same way Paralyze isn't exactly part of our P line). But our Ps, often bring home 2 wins, even 3 wins on a good day.

I maintain that though our victory is pretty much decided, the degree of that victory lies in whether we can match our 2nd Ace (Fantasy) against theirs (Stats).
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 06:49:34
January 06 2012 06:47 GMT
#168
I wonder do other Live report for other teams , get's so well documented prediction , like SKT v KT ??? , some thing must be wrong some where in the system ......

Edit : as usual SKT1 predicting their victory over us . I say KT has the chance to close this out 3-1.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 06 2012 06:48 GMT
#169
Why do people think Soo is good at ZvP?
His best matchup is vT, I thought everyone else thought so too.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 07:07:55
January 06 2012 06:53 GMT
#170
On January 06 2012 15:46 ffreakk wrote:
That's so... inaccurate T_T

Their T line may be better than hours, but their T line can bring home ONE win at best (Mind isn't exactly part of their T line, same way Paralyze isn't exactly part of our P line). But our Ps, often bring home 2 wins, even 3 wins on a good day.

I maintain that though our victory is pretty much decided, the degree of that victory lies in whether we can match our 2nd Ace (Fantasy) against theirs (Stats).


The problem is still matching up properly. An otherwise guaranteed win in Bisu can quickly end up as a loss if he faces Flash or a prepared Stats. Same goes for Fantasy. Ideally, FBB should avoid Flash completely because that's not really just one loss, that's one loss AND another lost opportunity for a win. Flash brings an entirely new dimension into a normal BW team game.

@ Lightwip:

I thought soO had pretty much proven his vP last season + OSL? I know he got owned by Jangbi but that was the legend of the fall.

EDIT: Minus his last 6 games (which really hurts the argument, but I go on faith of what I saw last season), he's been a pretty good sniper.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 06 2012 06:56 GMT
#171
Soo has never impressed me that much with his vP.
Any and every zerg is good vP. He really shines more in vT.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 07:01:52
January 06 2012 07:01 GMT
#172
9 pages of hype , this wouldn't go more than that right o.o ? I mean after all , there's nothing left to be hype about for now , except smack talking about how SKT is best KT , KT is OP and such " because tomorrow is like another 20 hours more to go .

Edit make that 20 hours ...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
January 06 2012 07:48 GMT
#173
On January 06 2012 16:01 Sawamura wrote:
9 pages of hype , this wouldn't go more than that right o.o ? I mean after all , there's nothing left to be hype about for now , except smack talking about how SKT is best KT , KT is OP and such " because tomorrow is like another 20 hours more to go .

Edit make that 20 hours ...

There is always something left to hype about when SKT vs KT are playing!
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
January 06 2012 08:00 GMT
#174
KT vs SKT! YUSH! Must call of every appointment I have! Cuz one can not miss SKT vs KT!
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
January 06 2012 08:03 GMT
#175
9 pages and still no bans yet.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
January 06 2012 08:07 GMT
#176
On January 06 2012 17:03 shaftofpleasure wrote:
9 pages and still no bans yet.


people post flame inducing nonsense but rarely do people get banned because of it or in responding to it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 06 2012 08:17 GMT
#177
On January 06 2012 17:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 17:03 shaftofpleasure wrote:
9 pages and still no bans yet.


people post flame inducing nonsense but rarely do people get banned because of it or in responding to it.

This is a BW LR.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 06 2012 08:25 GMT
#178
If you want bans, start a lengthy balance discussion in every thread.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 06 2012 08:29 GMT
#179
Some people are taking this way too seriously. Just leave it be and chill out, christ..
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
January 06 2012 08:51 GMT
#180
SKT1 should win unless they play Soo for some reason. Stick to Hyuk, please.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
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