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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
December 18 2011 06:42 GMT
#581
On December 18 2011 15:39 Legatus Lanius wrote:
flash is pretty much the rock of esports, refusing to move on, refusing to pass on the torch

jangbi is a true warrior, and jin air was like wrestlemania 18

Oh my God, make the noise stop.

Tiny screen on my HTC shows that CH's mutas are ineffective vs charon-boosted goliaths
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 18 2011 06:42 GMT
#582
Hydras are out
I assume lurkers are going to morph soon
Vultures run into the 3rd, and kill off 3 drones
Starport and vessel tech are up
OL speed is done
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 18 2011 06:42 GMT
#583
On December 18 2011 15:41 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:40 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:36 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
[quote]

flash is definitely a contributing factor. nobody was roaring for him when jangbi was up in the corner


No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


people were happy because they were sick of flash winning. they wouldve been happy even if soo clinched the victory. people like dynamism


There is no dynamism if Flash isn't a godly player. How can you not understand this? If Flash doesn't dominate the sport before, there's nothing but mediocre stagnation as titles alternate between players of similar skill level.


Well, that's just not true. You're talking as if Flash didn't exist BW would die...


Nope, I'm saying Flash is another in a long line of dominant players who help the sport grow by creating drama when he loses. Federer to Nadal, if you will. Broodwar is obviously fine without a single bonjwa, as there wasn't one for like 3 years after savior's loss and Flash's rise. But I do think there was an obvious coorelation between bonjwas dominating and being dethroned and the game's popularity curve.


Zzz.. yes, let's forget about Jaedong. Really?


This isn't an argument about Jaedong's relevant dominance. It's an argument about dominant players killing the sport -- which isn't true. You might as well have said that Boxer and Nada were killing broodwar because they were so good.


yeah people were definitely throwing their panties at jaedong when he 4pooled and then 9pooled in that osl semis.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 18 2011 06:42 GMT
#584
is it just me or is the upgrade timing off on leta's mech?
WriterXiao8~~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50586 Posts
December 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#585
On December 18 2011 15:42 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:39 Legatus Lanius wrote:
flash is pretty much the rock of esports, refusing to move on, refusing to pass on the torch

jangbi is a true warrior, and jin air was like wrestlemania 18


so you want him to throw games?

are you justifying ruining professionalism for publicity stunts?

He just cited pro wrestling. You are being trolled.


yes i am, but who cares.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#586
When was the last time a terran went pure mech in TvZ?
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
December 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#587
On December 18 2011 15:41 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:40 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:36 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
[quote]

flash is definitely a contributing factor. nobody was roaring for him when jangbi was up in the corner


No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


people were happy because they were sick of flash winning. they wouldve been happy even if soo clinched the victory. people like dynamism


There is no dynamism if Flash isn't a godly player. How can you not understand this? If Flash doesn't dominate the sport before, there's nothing but mediocre stagnation as titles alternate between players of similar skill level.


Well, that's just not true. You're talking as if Flash didn't exist BW would die...


Nope, I'm saying Flash is another in a long line of dominant players who help the sport grow by creating drama when he loses. Federer to Nadal, if you will. Broodwar is obviously fine without a single bonjwa, as there wasn't one for like 3 years after savior's loss and Flash's rise. But I do think there was an obvious coorelation between bonjwas dominating and being dethroned and the game's popularity curve.


Zzz.. yes, let's forget about Jaedong. Really?


This isn't an argument about Jaedong's relevant dominance. It's an argument about dominant players killing the sport -- which isn't true. You might as well have said that Boxer and Nada were killing broodwar because they were so good.


What... I never said that dominant players were killing BW. Please don't put words into my mouth.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
December 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#588
On December 18 2011 15:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:39 Legatus Lanius wrote:
flash is pretty much the rock of esports, refusing to move on, refusing to pass on the torch

jangbi is a true warrior, and jin air was like wrestlemania 18


so you want him to throw games?

are you justifying ruining professionalism for publicity stunts?


alls im saying is that we need more wrestlemania 6s

imo he shouldve left before he dropped out of both of those leagues together. flash fans could have their invincible god forever, and i could have some good wrestlemania 18-like finals. everybody wins
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#589
On December 18 2011 15:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:39 Legatus Lanius wrote:
flash is pretty much the rock of esports, refusing to move on, refusing to pass on the torch

jangbi is a true warrior, and jin air was like wrestlemania 18


so you want him to throw games?

are you justifying ruining professionalism for publicity stunts?


Don't feed the troll anymore... Pointless to discuss with this dude
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50586 Posts
December 18 2011 06:43 GMT
#590
CH GOING GANDALF ON THOSE VULTURES!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
December 18 2011 06:44 GMT
#591
On December 18 2011 15:29 Rodiel3 wrote:
Flash: well You know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him.

LOL jaedong never gg's :x
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 18 2011 06:44 GMT
#592
3rd CC for Leta, academy too
Vultures roaming the map, misses a drone moving to another expo
Mutas clean up, hydras are too slow off creep. Oh wait.
lmao
CH taking 7 main as a 4th base
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 18 2011 06:44 GMT
#593
On December 18 2011 15:43 Elyvilon wrote:
When was the last time a terran went pure mech in TvZ?


Bogus v soulkey?
WriterXiao8~~
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 18 2011 06:44 GMT
#594
On December 18 2011 15:43 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:41 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:40 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:39 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:36 Nikon wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
[quote]

No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


people were happy because they were sick of flash winning. they wouldve been happy even if soo clinched the victory. people like dynamism


There is no dynamism if Flash isn't a godly player. How can you not understand this? If Flash doesn't dominate the sport before, there's nothing but mediocre stagnation as titles alternate between players of similar skill level.


Well, that's just not true. You're talking as if Flash didn't exist BW would die...


Nope, I'm saying Flash is another in a long line of dominant players who help the sport grow by creating drama when he loses. Federer to Nadal, if you will. Broodwar is obviously fine without a single bonjwa, as there wasn't one for like 3 years after savior's loss and Flash's rise. But I do think there was an obvious coorelation between bonjwas dominating and being dethroned and the game's popularity curve.


Zzz.. yes, let's forget about Jaedong. Really?


This isn't an argument about Jaedong's relevant dominance. It's an argument about dominant players killing the sport -- which isn't true. You might as well have said that Boxer and Nada were killing broodwar because they were so good.


What... I never said that dominant players were killing BW. Please don't put words into my mouth.


Well then I don't know what your Jaedong comment was for.
Remember Violet.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
December 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#595
queens
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
December 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#596
On December 18 2011 15:43 Elyvilon wrote:
When was the last time a terran went pure mech in TvZ?



I recall Fanta doing it a few times last year
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#597
queens out
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
December 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#598
The last time wrestling was good was when Macho Man Randy Savage, pumped full of coke, was around.
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
December 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#599
Sneaky. :D
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 18 2011 06:45 GMT
#600
On December 18 2011 15:44 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:43 Elyvilon wrote:
When was the last time a terran went pure mech in TvZ?


Bogus v soulkey?

Ah, I still haven't seen that game, although I've heard it was really good.
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