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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#541
3 hatch build for CH
Factory going up for Leta
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#542
On December 18 2011 15:34 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:32 o[twist] wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:21 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:19 Legatus Lanius wrote:
huge blow for esports


What the fuck?


flash wins everything, sponsors pull out

jangbi beats flash and wins a starleague, renewed interest

Yes Flash is singlehandedly killing broodwar, not all the scandals and lack of profitability and other teams dominating proleague regular season.


flash is definitely a contributing factor. nobody was roaring for him when jangbi was up in the corner


No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


this is exactly right. everybody likes an underdog beating a dominant player but there's not much interest in an underdog beating another underdog


While I agree having a tyrant isn't necessarily a bad thing. There was far more back story to JangBi's win than that.


Well, when the actual tyrant was dominating, I was screaming my pants off but no players other than him had made me feel like that ever since (except for Stork)
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#543
Fact is coming up for Leta
CH scouts out Leta
CH's nat hatch is complete and has a 3rd in main
Drone slips by into the main
Scouts everything, but gets killed
Vulture before machine shop
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#544
yes leta going mech


drone gets in tt
ace hwaiting!!
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#545
On December 18 2011 15:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:21 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:19 Legatus Lanius wrote:
huge blow for esports


What the fuck?


flash wins everything, sponsors pull out

jangbi beats flash and wins a starleague, renewed interest

Yes Flash is singlehandedly killing broodwar, not all the scandals and lack of profitability and other teams dominating proleague regular season.


flash is definitely a contributing factor. nobody was roaring for him when jangbi was up in the corner


No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


people were happy because they were sick of flash winning. they wouldve been happy even if soo clinched the victory. people like dynamism


There is no dynamism if Flash isn't a godly player. How can you not understand this? If Flash doesn't dominate the sport before, there's nothing but mediocre stagnation as titles alternate between players of similar skill level.


if flash wasnt there, we'd have all sorts of people winning titles. its not as if bisu or jaedong would be winning everything

just because players are good, doesnt mean they are fun to watch. ac milan could very well be a great team but they doesnt make them any easier to watch
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#546
On December 18 2011 15:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:21 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:19 Legatus Lanius wrote:
huge blow for esports


What the fuck?


flash wins everything, sponsors pull out

jangbi beats flash and wins a starleague, renewed interest

Yes Flash is singlehandedly killing broodwar, not all the scandals and lack of profitability and other teams dominating proleague regular season.


flash is definitely a contributing factor. nobody was roaring for him when jangbi was up in the corner


No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


people were happy because they were sick of flash winning. they wouldve been happy even if soo clinched the victory. people like dynamism


There is no dynamism if Flash isn't a godly player. How can you not understand this? If Flash doesn't dominate the sport before, there's nothing but mediocre stagnation as titles alternate between players of similar skill level.


Well, that's just not true. You're talking as if Flash didn't exist BW would die...
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#547
Lets taking natural with Vulture moving out
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
December 18 2011 06:37 GMT
#548
letting that drone in.... bad mistake
POGGERS
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 18 2011 06:37 GMT
#549
On December 18 2011 15:36 doothegee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:21 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[quote]

What the fuck?


flash wins everything, sponsors pull out

jangbi beats flash and wins a starleague, renewed interest

Yes Flash is singlehandedly killing broodwar, not all the scandals and lack of profitability and other teams dominating proleague regular season.


flash is definitely a contributing factor. nobody was roaring for him when jangbi was up in the corner


No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


people were happy because they were sick of flash winning. they wouldve been happy even if soo clinched the victory. people like dynamism


There is no dynamism if Flash isn't a godly player. How can you not understand this? If Flash doesn't dominate the sport before, there's nothing but mediocre stagnation as titles alternate between players of similar skill level.

Boy, I wonder why people hate Flash fanboys.


You can replace Flash with any player. Flash is just the recent and most relevant example. If you noticed, I kind of brought up all the previous dominant players of the game and how they forged the game's popularity despite being godly players who won everything. If Flash suddenly gets hit by a meteor and Jangbi wins a bunch of titles, this courtesy extends to him, as well.
Remember Violet.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
December 18 2011 06:37 GMT
#550
On December 18 2011 15:37 konadora wrote:
letting that drone in.... bad mistake


Bad mistake... for CH! Drones are precious loveable, creatures, you should never send one into danger.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#551
jangbi's play is also inherently more interesting to watch
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#552
Unnecessary ovie loss right outside the nat
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50609 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#553
well I'm pulling out of this argument because just like KT TwoTone's got this.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
S-Class
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (North)665 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#554
nanashiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin streaaaammmmmmuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#555
ovie sniped by 2 marines armory going up vulture laying mines
ace hwaiting!!
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#556
On December 18 2011 15:37 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:37 konadora wrote:
letting that drone in.... bad mistake


Bad mistake... for CH! Drones are precious loveable, creatures, you should never send one into danger.

It is funny because the drone tried to high in the mineral line, tried to be a SCV. :<
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#557
On December 18 2011 15:36 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:21 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[quote]

What the fuck?


flash wins everything, sponsors pull out

jangbi beats flash and wins a starleague, renewed interest

Yes Flash is singlehandedly killing broodwar, not all the scandals and lack of profitability and other teams dominating proleague regular season.


flash is definitely a contributing factor. nobody was roaring for him when jangbi was up in the corner


No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


people were happy because they were sick of flash winning. they wouldve been happy even if soo clinched the victory. people like dynamism


There is no dynamism if Flash isn't a godly player. How can you not understand this? If Flash doesn't dominate the sport before, there's nothing but mediocre stagnation as titles alternate between players of similar skill level.


if flash wasnt there, we'd have all sorts of people winning titles. its not as if bisu or jaedong would be winning everything

just because players are good, doesnt mean they are fun to watch. ac milan could very well be a great team but they doesnt make them any easier to watch


so you're pretty much arguing that you would rather have a brand new champion every time?
And THAT would boost bw ratings?
are you kidding me?
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 18 2011 06:38 GMT
#558
Been a while since I've seen pure mech, I think.
Liquipedia
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
December 18 2011 06:39 GMT
#559
On December 18 2011 15:36 Nikon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 15:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:33 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:28 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:25 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:24 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:22 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:21 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On December 18 2011 15:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[quote]

What the fuck?


flash wins everything, sponsors pull out

jangbi beats flash and wins a starleague, renewed interest

Yes Flash is singlehandedly killing broodwar, not all the scandals and lack of profitability and other teams dominating proleague regular season.


flash is definitely a contributing factor. nobody was roaring for him when jangbi was up in the corner


No he isn't. This is a dumb argument. Broodwar was at its height of popularity when there were single players dominating the game beyond reason. You are exactly the opposite of right.


lmao, aint nobody wouldve given a fuck if flash had've won jin air


I guess nobody gave a fuck when Nada, Savior, Oov, won their multiple titles.

People are drawn to extremes and standouts. A single dominant player has done nothing but help broodwar popularity in the past. The decline of broodwar is directly coorelated to one of them betraying everyone. It is disgusting that you would blame Flash for the hard times that are befalling the sport.

You know why people were so happy Jangbi won?

Because he beat Flash.

Without Flash, the dominant uberplayer, there is no drama to his loss and Jangbi's victory. This is how it worked with every bonjwa in the past being upset and dethroned.

Come. Off. It.


people were happy because they were sick of flash winning. they wouldve been happy even if soo clinched the victory. people like dynamism


There is no dynamism if Flash isn't a godly player. How can you not understand this? If Flash doesn't dominate the sport before, there's nothing but mediocre stagnation as titles alternate between players of similar skill level.


Well, that's just not true. You're talking as if Flash didn't exist BW would die...


Nope, I'm saying Flash is another in a long line of dominant players who help the sport grow by creating drama when he loses. Federer to Nadal, if you will. Broodwar is obviously fine without a single bonjwa, as there wasn't one for like 3 years after savior's loss and Flash's rise. But I do think there was an obvious coorelation between bonjwas dominating and being dethroned and the game's popularity curve.
Remember Violet.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 18 2011 06:39 GMT
#560
3 words. The four pillars.

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