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Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
December 14 2011 20:19 GMT
#1461
Oh man who'd have expected that result :D

Poor Light, he was playing so well, but Best is just a beast in PvT. Light could have beaten most Ps in that shape.

GJ Woongjin, happy to see Free actually doing something right for once.
Always smile~
IGotPlayguuu
Profile Joined June 2011
Italy660 Posts
December 14 2011 20:27 GMT
#1462
NOOO my FPL!
BW |JaeDong|Bisu|FBH|BeSt| SC2 |MC|DRG|MMA|TLO|HuK|July|ClouD| ||| Boxer best player ever! ||| "HuK never use penix" ||| I <3 SeleCT ||| GO Space! ||| Nerf Roach! |||
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 20:30:17
December 14 2011 20:29 GMT
#1463
Dang it . Bisu. Taek Yong. How could you lose in the ace match . Oh well.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
December 14 2011 20:59 GMT
#1464
On December 15 2011 05:29 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Dang it . Bisu. Taek Yong. How could you lose in the ace match . Oh well.


I blame the terminology...it's not an ace match so he didn't win.

Then again he likes to fumble the ace against Woongjin so i say Park Hyuked us there after Best brilliance :{
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
December 14 2011 21:06 GMT
#1465
"While analyzing VODs, when Bisu meets a player of my skill level, he always plays safely. As a result, I completely excluded the possibilities of Dark Templars and proxy plays from my thoughts. I think it worked out well because Bisu did what I wanted him to do."
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
December 14 2011 21:10 GMT
#1466
On December 15 2011 06:06 Jindo wrote:
"While analyzing VODs, when Bisu meets a player of my skill level, he always plays safely. As a result, I completely excluded the possibilities of Dark Templars and proxy plays from my thoughts. I think it worked out well because Bisu did what I wanted him to do."


Gogo comes to mind
But.....
▲ ▲ ▲
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 14 2011 21:54 GMT
#1467
On December 15 2011 06:10 Taekwon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:06 Jindo wrote:
"While analyzing VODs, when Bisu meets a player of my skill level, he always plays safely. As a result, I completely excluded the possibilities of Dark Templars and proxy plays from my thoughts. I think it worked out well because Bisu did what I wanted him to do."


Gogo comes to mind
But.....


But Free was gambling that Bisu thought that He was a shitty player and capatilized on that. Thus Free got the win.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
December 14 2011 21:59 GMT
#1468
On December 15 2011 06:54 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:10 Taekwon wrote:
On December 15 2011 06:06 Jindo wrote:
"While analyzing VODs, when Bisu meets a player of my skill level, he always plays safely. As a result, I completely excluded the possibilities of Dark Templars and proxy plays from my thoughts. I think it worked out well because Bisu did what I wanted him to do."


Gogo comes to mind
But.....


But Free was gambling that Bisu thought that He was a shitty player and capatilized on that. Thus Free got the win.


Winception.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
December 14 2011 22:10 GMT
#1469
On December 15 2011 06:59 Saechiis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:54 amazingxkcd wrote:
On December 15 2011 06:10 Taekwon wrote:
On December 15 2011 06:06 Jindo wrote:
"While analyzing VODs, when Bisu meets a player of my skill level, he always plays safely. As a result, I completely excluded the possibilities of Dark Templars and proxy plays from my thoughts. I think it worked out well because Bisu did what I wanted him to do."


Gogo comes to mind
But.....


But Free was gambling that Bisu thought that He was a shitty player and capatilized on that. Thus Free got the win.


Winception.

This made me laugh.

But truth. Winception it is.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
December 14 2011 22:44 GMT
#1470
On December 15 2011 07:10 Keone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:59 Saechiis wrote:
On December 15 2011 06:54 amazingxkcd wrote:
On December 15 2011 06:10 Taekwon wrote:
On December 15 2011 06:06 Jindo wrote:
"While analyzing VODs, when Bisu meets a player of my skill level, he always plays safely. As a result, I completely excluded the possibilities of Dark Templars and proxy plays from my thoughts. I think it worked out well because Bisu did what I wanted him to do."


Gogo comes to mind
But.....


But Free was gambling that Bisu thought that He was a shitty player and capatilized on that. Thus Free got the win.


Winception.

This made me laugh.

But truth. Winception it is.


So if i take an arrow to my kneecap so i wake up finding myself falling down a bridge in a car into water which leads me to wake up to falling into my bathtub...I MIGHT WAKE UP TO BISU MAYBE WINNING?!

hang on i just have to grab my bow and let in some water :o
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 14 2011 22:57 GMT
#1471
fuck yeah soulkey!

SK is god!
BW is back
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
December 14 2011 23:04 GMT
#1472
oh fuck free
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 14 2011 23:36 GMT
#1473
Free you take my breathe away.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Jackoo
Profile Joined May 2008
12 Posts
December 14 2011 23:53 GMT
#1474
horrible VODs, all out of sync!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 14 2011 23:59 GMT
#1475
The VODs are fine to me?

Where are they out of sync? I didnt watch them all
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 15 2011 00:29 GMT
#1476
On December 15 2011 06:54 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:10 Taekwon wrote:
On December 15 2011 06:06 Jindo wrote:
"While analyzing VODs, when Bisu meets a player of my skill level, he always plays safely. As a result, I completely excluded the possibilities of Dark Templars and proxy plays from my thoughts. I think it worked out well because Bisu did what I wanted him to do."


Gogo comes to mind
But.....


But Free was gambling that Bisu thought that He was a shitty player and capatilized on that. Thus Free got the win.

And Gogo was just gambling matchfixing... (He was involved too right? or am I mixing him up with someone else?)
Jaedong.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 15 2011 00:29 GMT
#1477
On December 14 2011 21:48 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 21:36 kamikami wrote:
On December 14 2011 21:31 hp.Shell wrote:
On December 14 2011 21:19 ZoW wrote:
I just woke up and I demand an explanation for this madness

free went early nexus and Bisu didn't scout it in time. It was a build order loss and it's one of those builds from free that isn't allowable by meta. Had he been scouted it would have been over.


So basically Bisu was just unlucky and Free gambled ? OK good explaination bro that settled it, the loss was not Bisu's fault at all.


No. It was definitely his fault. It took him so long to get an obs up to scout, and he sat there with two dragoons in the middle of the map doing nothing for ages. Couldn't he at least have killed the zealots blocking the ramp, then ran either a probe or a goon in to check for any shenanigans? Whatever the risk, it would have been better than sitting there blind for 5 minutes. Even after he finally scouted it, instead of attacking, he ran his army back and waited until free had massed up more dragoons and 2 reavers.

Bisu, I love you, but I can't defend you on this one :\


um .. not really? There's almost no way to scout past core against a decent player, and his obs timing was standard. Free got the positional advantage, so if Bisu wanted to do any sort of early aggression he'd have to run around a long way, which would give free more than enough time to reinforce for defense (attacking through the small path is a huge nono, especially with Zealots blocking). The timing advantage of 2gate obs-double vs range-double is very small, and compounded with the roundabout path Bisu would've had to take, it wouldn't have had worked out.

Free got the really good positional advantage, and played a build that really worked for the situation. However, the game wasn't over despite the build advantage .. when Bisu let up his position by the small path/ramp between his base and Free's, the game was over. Bisu should've kept that position to force Free take the long path, and then set up a concave to force an engagement more favorable for him (then play with perfect Reaver micro .. which didn't happen).

Basically yes, Bisu did get unlucky but it wasn't an unwinnable disadvantage like 4gate vs DT. Though it seems like a lot of times in pro PvP nowadays any disadvantage will lead to an inevitable loss :\
Writerptrk
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 15 2011 00:31 GMT
#1478
On December 15 2011 08:59 Torenhire wrote:
The VODs are fine to me?

Where are they out of sync? I didnt watch them all

Yeah, the audio was on a 1-2 second delay. Not a big issue as its an easy fix future vods so esportstv should fix it soon (hopefully).
Jaedong.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
December 15 2011 00:36 GMT
#1479
Woot! Go woongjin!! Sad zero keeps losing though
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19235 Posts
December 15 2011 01:45 GMT
#1480
I just finished crying.
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