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[OSL] Jin Air OSL Grand Final - Page 296

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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
September 17 2011 13:42 GMT
#5901
This series reminds me of Kal vs ForGG, when Kal went for the same DT/Scout build in games 1 and 5, and got blocked in game 5 when the Terran adapted. Only Jangbi somehow pulled it out.
May the BeSt man win.
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
September 17 2011 13:43 GMT
#5902
On September 17 2011 22:37 Kipsate wrote:
Pathfind is so stupid regardless though, both the sieging the main(or nat) from below and carriers floating over ridges.

it really needs to go.

But it’s a map that produces very interesting and exiting games. I like that the OSL map pool mixes in some unique maps every now and then, not every map can look like Fighting Spirit.
-_-
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 17 2011 13:43 GMT
#5903
There's so many different things to point out that were possible in Game 4/5 i don't think it's even worth talking about to be honest. It's just awesome how it did turn out.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 13:44:20
September 17 2011 13:43 GMT
#5904
On September 17 2011 22:41 infinity2k9 wrote:
This was incredible.. best series i've seen. My favourite OSL run. It's just been perfect, nothing could be better. After Ro8 game 1 there wasn't particularly much hype at all about the OSL.. Then the surprise underdog Jangbi takes out Flash. A special moment in itself in a lot of ways... a lot of people including me then obviously wanted Jangbi to go on and take it and be the first P of this modern era to win it. However Soo would have been silly to underestimate, while i desperately wanted him to win i knew in the back of my head PvZ is very harsh sometimes if you're a P fan.

Yet amazingly he smashes him 3-0.. a great series in itself, in his weakest matchup, and he does the perfect thing and completely dominates. So he's definitely serious and hype building up massively for the final.. but there was still a nagging feeling about possible fluke form and Fantasy's form always showing in tournament in a matchup he specializes in. It was always possible but would it really happen.

Then this finals. Wow... it was awesome from the start with Jangbi doing pretty much what i said in my earlier post in the thread, that he needs to play aggressive not reactive. He pretty much did that every game in some form or another. He showed us new ideas and old classics alike. Then it ramped up for the ridiculous 4th set. Win by floating CC but in a hugely entertaining way. Then 5th set (which i previously didn't even want) is totally insane. Now you can pick on decisions by the players all day there was so many twists in the game. But it ended up how it did, and it's a miracle.

Fantasy warrants mention too simply because no other player would have made this series like this. Just happened to be the perfect matchup. Nothing against Flash but he'll never have a series like this (that's more like a compliment to his skill). The stars aligned and gave us this, finally a Protoss Champion, 100% well deserved and in great style. With the current state of BW maybe it will end up being more than just a Cinderella story. This has shown the full potential of eSports, and if this can't convince people that there is more potential and possibilities with this game then nothing can. It wasn't the best players of their races and they didn't make every correct decision, but how it unfolded was a spectacle. I don't think you could write out a series like that.

I think we should all be a lot more determined about BW; there is still legends yet to rise and fall.


While I was fairly worried about Jangbi vs Soo in the beginning, in retrospect there was nothing to be worried about. Back when Jangbi was in his initial prime, he also smacked Yellow[arnc] around like a nub in a Ro4 in an MSL and went 3-0, iirc. It was either him or Luxury. I forgot. But both of which are kind of known for ZvP.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 14:57:00
September 17 2011 13:44 GMT
#5905
Insane last game, 3rd OSL finals I've watched ever - Batoo and Bacchus 2010 are the others - and it definitely lived up to the hype.

Hopefully this heralds better news for BW in the days to come.

Thanks to the streamers and to all the people that showed up to the venue.

Edit: O I forgot I watched Korean Air S2 as well.

Oh and thanks Ciryandor I'm just lazy
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
September 17 2011 13:45 GMT
#5906
Fake Yellow was Jangbi's punching bag for a while. Jangbi actually had great PvZ during his first peak, definitely enough to be even or better against anyone besides Jaedong.
May the BeSt man win.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 13:46:42
September 17 2011 13:45 GMT
#5907
On September 17 2011 22:35 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 22:26 Djabanete wrote:
Besides the semifinals, that was almost the roughest path to an OSL win you could possibly have.

Qualifiers: knocked out by Soo
Ro16: almost eliminated 1-2, saved by tiebreak
Ro8: down 1 game vs Flash
Finals: 2-2, 30 supply deficit in final game

That's mental fortitude. After so many hurdles, I don't know WHAT he was thinking in the final game when he was so far behind.

Ro4: Going up against guy who knocked you out in Qualifiers.

And IMO had Fanta gone Wraiths earlier (before OBS went up) and concentrated on more Vults/Tanks to hold off the inevitable goon push, he would have had a much better chance of winning this.

he had a HUGE chance of winning it after the initial push. I'm confident now that whatever he did and didn't wouldn't change anything, Jangbi would have won it all the same. Cause it was his OSL, look how he holds himself before the games, he's happy, confident an smiling constantly. I can't imagine such kind of evil that can stop a human being from achieving what he desires in such a tilted state.
It was impossible for Fanta to win it, just cause he lost it to Jangbi mentally, just the way he did to JD.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
September 17 2011 13:45 GMT
#5908
@IntoTheEmo

Watch the OSLs on nevake, lots of excellent games there.
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macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
September 17 2011 13:47 GMT
#5909
Protoss players must thank Fantasy
In the past 6 years, only 2 protosses won OSL : Stork (2008 Incruit) and now Jangbi (2011 Jin Air)
Guess who they had to beat to win OSL?
Fantasy.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 17 2011 13:48 GMT
#5910
On September 17 2011 22:47 macmann wrote:
Protoss players must thank Fantasy
In the past 6 years, only 2 protosses won OSL : Stork (2008 Incruit) and now Jangbi (2011 Jin Air)
Guess who they had to beat to win OSL?
Fantasy.


TBH that's kind of shameful considering TvP is his best matchup.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
September 17 2011 13:49 GMT
#5911
Not sure if nevake's uploaded yet, since my VPN ran out and can't access youtube right now. But this place usually have games very quickly if you don't mind video quality or chinese commentary.

http://u.youku.com/user_video/id_UNTgyODg0MzY=_order_1_type_1_page_1.html

So far games 1, 3, and 4 are up.
Meh
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 13:49:28
September 17 2011 13:49 GMT
#5912
On September 17 2011 22:48 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 22:47 macmann wrote:
Protoss players must thank Fantasy
In the past 6 years, only 2 protosses won OSL : Stork (2008 Incruit) and now Jangbi (2011 Jin Air)
Guess who they had to beat to win OSL?
Fantasy.


TBH that's kind of shameful considering TvP is his best matchup.


And Stork & Jangbi are pretty much the best TvPers.
ggaemo fan
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 17 2011 13:49 GMT
#5913
I knew I was going to shed a tear when Kim carry went nuts and yelled Protoss hope etc.
WriterXiao8~~
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2341 Posts
September 17 2011 13:49 GMT
#5914
On September 17 2011 22:48 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 22:47 macmann wrote:
Protoss players must thank Fantasy
In the past 6 years, only 2 protosses won OSL : Stork (2008 Incruit) and now Jangbi (2011 Jin Air)
Guess who they had to beat to win OSL?
Fantasy.


TBH that's kind of shameful considering TvP is his best matchup.


Actually he had to play with the ones with the best PvT as well, and one of them was hummilated in 3:0 clean sweep.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
September 17 2011 13:49 GMT
#5915
I think Fantasy should be happy that he lost. Imagine the amount of hate he would`ve gotten if he beat Jangbi?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 17 2011 13:50 GMT
#5916
On September 17 2011 22:49 baubo wrote:
Not sure if nevake's uploaded yet, since my VPN ran out and can't access youtube right now. But this place usually have games very quickly if you don't mind video quality or chinese commentary.

http://u.youku.com/user_video/id_UNTgyODg0MzY=_order_1_type_1_page_1.html

So far games 1, 3, and 4 are up.


Rewatching set 1 right now. Haha.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 17 2011 13:51 GMT
#5917
Hey guys did JangBi really break free from the KKKONNG! line? I mean technically isn't FanTaSy still in it since he only beat Stork? (Not that that's a small feat, I'm just sayin' that Stork was still part of the Kong Line, and thus wouldn't FanTaSy still be as well? And if you beat another Kong Line member, that doesn't count, right? Or does it..?


In other news, JANGBI FIGHTING!
kiss kiss fall in love
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 17 2011 13:51 GMT
#5918
I still can't believe it.. i will go ahead and say best series ever for me personally all things around it considered. Loads i've not seen live but still i really feel like it.
macmann
Profile Joined May 2011
87 Posts
September 17 2011 13:52 GMT
#5919
On September 17 2011 22:48 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 22:47 macmann wrote:
Protoss players must thank Fantasy
In the past 6 years, only 2 protosses won OSL : Stork (2008 Incruit) and now Jangbi (2011 Jin Air)
Guess who they had to beat to win OSL?
Fantasy.


TBH that's kind of shameful considering TvP is his best matchup.

It's interesting because both Stork and Jangbi would have been labeled King of Silver had they lost.
Both series went to game 5 and in the end, I think both Stork and Jangbi beat Fantasy mentally more than anything else.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3128 Posts
September 17 2011 13:52 GMT
#5920
But it’s a map that produces very interesting and exiting games. I like that the OSL map pool mixes in some unique maps every now and then, not every map can look like Fighting Spirit.

Does anyone remember Plasma from the 2008 Incruit OSL? Now THAT was a fun map.

I will never forget Stork's epic 3-proxy-gates-in-opponent's-main strat against Best on that map. STORK!
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