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raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
August 26 2011 12:42 GMT
#1101
On August 26 2011 21:38 Iplaythings wrote:
So let me know if I got this right:
Killed had a technical problem, doesnt PPP, instead he just pauses

And gets DQ'ed from an advantageous situation?


Nope the game just started . Both players had mirror BOs and Killer just paused the game while players are not allowed to do that unless for a very good reason . He should have tiped p and waited for the referee to pause the game .
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 26 2011 12:42 GMT
#1102
I can feel the rage in this thread a lot :D
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 26 2011 12:43 GMT
#1103
On August 26 2011 21:40 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 21:36 Telcontar wrote:
On August 26 2011 21:35 jaQi wrote:
On August 26 2011 21:33 gngfn wrote:
So I guess we're just going to continue hating on Kespa instead of considering possible reasons for a rule that they explicitly reviewed after the whole pp/ppp thing and decided to keep


We had that already. Stupid rules that don't make any sense and just hurt starcraft and the fans, should not be kept!

I would love to hear at least 1 logical and rational reason why they have such a stupid rule in place.

I already gave one. If players were allowed to pause on their own, they could pause in the middle of an intense micro battle or something to mess up their opponent and then claim that their mouse was malfunctioning. If you have to type ppp instead, it both gives the opponent warning and forces the pausing player to interrupt his own play.


that's ridiculous. you can DQ in that situation and not in a situation that's completely different
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
August 26 2011 12:43 GMT
#1104
On August 26 2011 21:40 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 21:36 Telcontar wrote:
On August 26 2011 21:35 jaQi wrote:
On August 26 2011 21:33 gngfn wrote:
So I guess we're just going to continue hating on Kespa instead of considering possible reasons for a rule that they explicitly reviewed after the whole pp/ppp thing and decided to keep


We had that already. Stupid rules that don't make any sense and just hurt starcraft and the fans, should not be kept!

I would love to hear at least 1 logical and rational reason why they have such a stupid rule in place.

I already gave one. If players were allowed to pause on their own, they could pause in the middle of an intense micro battle or something to mess up their opponent and then claim that their mouse was malfunctioning. If you have to type ppp instead, it both gives the opponent warning and forces the pausing player to interrupt his own play.


I think this is reasonable.

And it's not like he got DQd for P or PPP or PPPP instead of PP, it was a random pause in SoO's face.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 26 2011 12:43 GMT
#1105
On August 26 2011 21:42 sixfour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 21:40 Grettin wrote:
Wait, what happened in Soo vs Killer match? I missed it completely.


game 2 soo gets a free win because killer pauses without ppping
game 3 soo has huge bo advantage, fucks it up, then killer fucks up back where one sunken would have been an autowin


Thank you sir, much appreciated!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
August 26 2011 12:43 GMT
#1106
Soo will get absolutely demolished if hes sent out in stx masters tomorrow
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Ecrilon
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
501 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 12:45:54
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1107
The PPP instead of self pause rule exists to prevent abuse of pausing at a critical time to screw with your opponent's timing I believe. It seems silly, but that is probably the reason.
Edit: Too slow!
There is but one truth.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1108
Man, those drone and hatch snipes......All in vain.....
"Start yo" -FlaSh
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1109
On August 26 2011 21:43 Invictus wrote:
Soo will get absolutely demolished if hes sent out in stx masters tomorrow


i actually like skt, or i did until recently, but i hope oz is downright insulting and bm tomorrow.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1110
My guesses :
Fanta has like 30-40% chances to beat Flash.
Killer was a big unkown, 15-35.
Hydra about 10.
soO ? LOL PLZ.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
a7choi
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1664 Posts
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1111
sigh. this is so depressing . i feel so bad for killer hope flash's games make up for this lol is soo sure to meet flash if flash advances???
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1112
See, it wasnt killer's mistake. He was pumping lings with 100% of his larva during Soo's ling bust. He reacted correctly.
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1113
On August 26 2011 21:45 Ecrilon wrote:
The PPP instead of self pause rule exists to prevent abuse of pausing at a critical time to screw with your opponent's timing I believe. It seems silly, but that is probably the reason.


so you DQ if it's at a critical time. not a hard rule to adjust for circumstance.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1114
Rules are rules get over it and to allow killer to get away for doing the pause without ppp than all the players who in the pass did it should have gotten the same privilege .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 26 2011 12:45 GMT
#1115
On August 26 2011 21:43 IntoTheEmo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 21:40 gngfn wrote:
On August 26 2011 21:36 Telcontar wrote:
On August 26 2011 21:35 jaQi wrote:
On August 26 2011 21:33 gngfn wrote:
So I guess we're just going to continue hating on Kespa instead of considering possible reasons for a rule that they explicitly reviewed after the whole pp/ppp thing and decided to keep


We had that already. Stupid rules that don't make any sense and just hurt starcraft and the fans, should not be kept!

I would love to hear at least 1 logical and rational reason why they have such a stupid rule in place.

I already gave one. If players were allowed to pause on their own, they could pause in the middle of an intense micro battle or something to mess up their opponent and then claim that their mouse was malfunctioning. If you have to type ppp instead, it both gives the opponent warning and forces the pausing player to interrupt his own play.


I think this is reasonable.

And it's not like he got DQd for P or PPP or PPPP instead of PP, it was a random pause in SoO's face.

Yep. The rule is there to deter players from deliberately pausing in mid-game to break the opponent's concentration.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5779 Posts
August 26 2011 12:46 GMT
#1116
It would be funny if JangBi beats Flash, Soo hydra busts JangBi, and Soo ends up in the final.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
August 26 2011 12:46 GMT
#1117
On August 26 2011 21:45 corumjhaelen wrote:
My guesses :
Fanta has like 30-40% chances to beat Flash.
Killer was a big unkown, 15-35.
Hydra about 10.
soO ? LOL PLZ.


fanta has maybe 30-40% chance in any given game. in a 5-game series? much lower.
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
August 26 2011 12:46 GMT
#1118
oh man. I am so angry.
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
Sumsi
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany593 Posts
August 26 2011 12:46 GMT
#1119
On August 26 2011 21:42 Sawamura wrote:
I can feel the rage in this thread a lot :D

I'm just smiling ...
moin
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
August 26 2011 12:46 GMT
#1120
On August 26 2011 21:43 Invictus wrote:
Soo will get absolutely demolished if hes sent out in stx masters tomorrow

s2 is much more likely to come out (vs. Z), since soo is a ZvP specialist and SKT already has Fantasy for all their vP needs. So we'll likely see Fantasy, Bisu, s2 and then one of Sun, Ssak, Hyuk.

Anyway, time to watch Flash win, I guess.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
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