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On August 03 2011 02:31 Simplistik wrote:
It worries me that KT has 3 zergs in their recent line up and so does SKT. I really hope that there won't be 3 ZvZ in the finals. How annoying would that be? And then to top it off maybe a cheesy fantasy vs Flash and a short Bisu vs Stats or something. That would be a disaster.
I am a bit worried about the quality of the games...
Don't you dare! It would be a nightmare. It will be epic matches!!
+ Show Spoiler +
Please SKT1 and KT, please!!
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50878 Posts
Go KT!
Do this for violet!!
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United States10391 Posts
On August 03 2011 02:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Go KT!
Do this for violet!!
FOR VIOLET
FOR STORM ZERG!
KT HWAITING 4-3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On August 03 2011 00:00 Kiante wrote:
SKT anti-fans out in force. Kinda sad that everyone who's not an SKT fan has to hate SKT, but i guess it comes with being the best.
I look forward to SKT shitting all over your little bucket come game time.
Nah dude it comes with having arrogant fans.
And to clarify, I root for SKT and I like to see them win, just not against KT 
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That had to be addressed.
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I don't hate SKT, but I'm not a fan of the team exactly.. :p Personally I tend to not like top tier teams as much (compliments to SKT) because I don't find their teams as fun or exciting.
I might miss the grand finals...my dad's getting re-married on Friday and I dunno that I'll be able to watch this...Maybe I'll skip the wedding.
+ Show Spoiler +yeah right, haha. VODs and hope I dont get spoiled. 
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On August 03 2011 03:01 Lightwip wrote:That had to be addressed.
welldone 
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Netherlands45349 Posts
You know actually I don't mind who wins, if SKT wins ill be happy for Fantasy/Oov and if KT wins ill be happy for Reach/Violet.
Win/Win situation
just hope they don't fcking play so many ZvZs.
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SKT! reclaim the throne of SC:BW!
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+ Show Spoiler +I try my best to keep favouritism to a minimum but im sure some lingering love for SKT is still there in my heart affecting my decision. But this is as fair as i get.
Despite KT having the 2 week to prepare, im inclined to think that they wont tray too far from their favourite maps. Also they ll probably want to send more Zergs vs SKT, especially on maps that BeSt potentially will be trying to snipe Flash (not that i think he has more than 50% chance to win or anything, despite him seeming to have Flash's number this season. He just have to meet Flash or have a much lower return value otherwise.. Who the crap have more chance of beating Flash than say... Action/Hoejja/Crazy-Hydra/roO.. Maybe only BeSt).
===Game 1: Beltway===
BeSt vs Flash
BeSt strength comes from his Arb play (i have never been impressed with his Carriers play, even after his series of Carriers game recently). From what i can see, Beltway is pretty horrible for Arb, and you are pretty much forced to use Carriers. And Flash is awesome vs Carrier. Maybe some Shuttle-heavy play will help BeSt get the breathing room he needs, but im not counting on it. Flash takes the game no matter who he faces on Beltway, for me. Also, Flash will likely want some time to rest his wrist before the potential Ace match, so coming out earlier is better.
Though, im not discounting the possibility that Bisu comes out here in hopes of sniping the Zerg that is sent to snipe BeSt. Risky though, as im sure SKT will prefer that Bisu doesnt meet our current Bonjwa.
===Game 2: Alternative===
Bisu vs Crazy-Hydra
Yea, i know Bisu's been playing a lot on Alternative, and i also think that coach Park probably wont be as predictable as to send him here again. But then the only other option (that plays on Alternative for SKT) is soO, who easily has the worst ZvZ among the SKT Zerg line. Im guessing a Crazy-Hydra sniping soO here, but hope that coach Park sniff it out and send his trump card to beat this ZvZ specialist instead. And yea, i tend to auto-predict a Bisu win in a vZ match. Also, Park seems to prefer to let his Ace rest in case of an Ace match, so that cements my prediction that Bisu comes out here.
Stats can also come out here to snipe Bisu, but i hope not. Even then i feel Bisu will take this game, Stats or no.
===Game 3: Bloody Ridge===
s2 vs Hoejja
Flash wont come out on Bloody Ridge. And imo s2 isnt afraid of anyone else on KT. His vP is enough to fight Stats, and his vZ is enough to fight the Zergs. Barracks likely wont come out, but even if he does the map will work against him and he is not Flash enough to overcome map imbalance and beat s2. So im guessing Hoejja coming here to fight him, or to snipe a by.Sun just in case he get sent out. I will take s2 over Hoejja in ZvZ though.
However, i can see SoO coming out here to to save s2 for La Mancha, which is more likely to get a ZvZ. In this case i hope SoO can edge out a win vs Hoejja, whose vZ is about the same as his own. As we will need all the wins we can get vs a KT with good momentum. Deciding factor for s2 is that soO favors the 4-base turtle style (or 5 pool), so he probably wont like it here very much.
===Game 4: La Mancha===
Hyuk vs roO
or SoO vs roO
This is the hardest map to predict for me.
- For SKT: Fantasy wont come out here, there are Fortress and EotS later. soO seems like the logical choice, taking into account the players fielded on the previous games. But chances of Barracks getting fielded here looks small to me, since i believe KT wont even field him at all. And even if he does get fielded, it should be either Fortress of EotS. So that means soO plays a Zerg, and his vZ isnt too good. Likewise, by.Sun wont like to face a Zerg on this map either. That leaves either s2 (if we decide to field soO on Bloody Ridge), or Hyuk. My guts tell me that coach Park somehow will still refuse to field Hyuk, despite his strong showing in the SLs. But i will go ahead and put him here anyway, since i feel he is the best choice.
- For KT: BeSt plays on La Mancha, and KT might want to snipe him on this map as well with a Zerg. Bisu likely will not play here, so sending a Zerg is safe, especially with strong chance of that Zerg being soO. Only problem is that neither Action or Hoejja have very good vZ. So im predicting roO for this game. Stats likely wont come out here for a good reason: Nobody wants to play a PvZ nowadays.
===Game 5: Fortress===
Fantasy vs Action
Fantasy comes out here, if only to facilitate the sniping of the last game better. Also, he has seen success vs Zerg (likely seen to snipe both him and BeSt) by means of 2-port-wraiths on this map before (vs Action to boot). He is likely to beat Barracks, should he be sent here, and wont be afraid to face Stats. Overall i think this is a strong choice for SKT. Action is the only problem, since his vT actually is quite good when he decides to be, but Fantasy beat him here before, he can do so again.
===Game 6: Empire of the Sun===
Sniper vs Stats/KT's last.
This is the part where i feel strongly that SKT has the upper-hand. By this point they are likely to be left with by.Sun, soO/Hyuk (by god i hope its soO), even the likes of Ssak/Yongjae. They can each practise just one match-up (vP for soO, vT for by.Sun, vZ for Ssak/Yongjae), and depending on the previous match-ups fielded by KT, they can come out accordingly. Anyway i think that KT would have exhausted their Zerg line by this point, so its either soO or by.Sun for me. Anyway, i believe since it wont be Flash here, our snipe will be successful, and we should have taken the series by this point.
===Ace: Circuit Breaker===
Bisu vs Flash
Too lazy to write about this, also i cant decide who will win. But i trust Bisu over BeSt (who lost to + Show Spoiler + on this map not too long ago). Anyway this is just in case, we should have taken the series by this point.
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Stats overrated? He's only recently gotten attention after guys like Snow and Movie got all the attention as the neo-tosses.
My fan-influenced predictions:
Flash - Neo Beltway - by.Sun
Hoejja - Alternative - Bisu
Yeah, go on and laugh. You'll see. You'll all see.
Action - New Bloody Ridge - sOo
Roo - La Mancha - s2
Barracks - Fortress SE - Fantasy
Stats - New Empire of the Sun - Best
Stats humiliates the most overrated player of all time with drop play.
Flash - Circuit Breaker - Bisu
Timing push into celebration.
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I just want to say: I don't hate SKT or Bisu or Fantasy (though Best is very annoying and always been super overrated), and I think there have a lot of cool players. All fanbases have their bad apples but even their fans can be okay (at least compared to CJ fans).
That being said, they're standing in the way of history, so get ready.
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Last years results were:
(P)viOlet > (T)Canata
(P)Stats > (P)Bisu
(T)fOrGG < (P)BeSt
(P)Tempest > (Z)s2
(Z)HoeJJa < (T)Fantasy
(T)Flash > (Z)Hyuk
This season, KT Lost viOlet and fOrGG, their #3 and #4 players. They're replaced them with Action and Crazy-Hydra. In the meantime, SKT Lost Canata and Hyuk, their absolute worst players, and replaced them with Sun and an improved Zerg lineup. I'm pretty sure SKT is the favorite this time around.
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Skt's gonna get steamrolled. Fantasy is crap, best is crap, their zergs are crap and bisu can't handle flash. They'll need a lot of luck to make it to ace and then no amount of luck can save them. Plus, without bisu skt is far and away the ugliest team in the league. Gross
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On August 03 2011 04:08 n.DieJokes wrote:
Skt's gonna get steamrolled. Fantasy is crap, best is crap, their zergs are crap and bisu can't handle flash. They'll need a lot of luck to make it to ace and then no amount of luck can save them. Plus, without bisu skt is far and away the ugliest team in the league. Gross
Sounds like someone's mad SKT got seeded into the finals while their team couldn't make it to the play-offs...
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hey, what did happen to the thread with the awesome banner featuring bisu lee and derp flash?
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SKT1 is gonna be T E R M I NA T E D!
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GO GO HOEJJA!
GO GO GOD YOUNG HO!
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On August 03 2011 04:01 Slaynte wrote:
Last years results were:
(P)viOlet > (T)Canata
(P)Stats > (P)Bisu
(T)fOrGG < (P)BeSt
(P)Tempest > (Z)s2
(Z)HoeJJa < (T)Fantasy
(T)Flash > (Z)Hyuk
This season, KT Lost viOlet and fOrGG, their #3 and #4 players. They're replaced them with Action and Crazy-Hydra. In the meantime, SKT Lost Canata and Hyuk, their absolute worst players, and replaced them with Sun and an improved Zerg lineup. I'm pretty sure SKT is the favorite this time around.
KT zerg lineup is also way better than last year. And SKT didn't lost Hyuk.
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EPT![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1760359/bisu-t2.png)
