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[SPL] Grand Finals: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 56

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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 18:58:37
August 06 2011 18:56 GMT
#1101
On August 07 2011 03:38 hauton wrote:
I think overall this entire cancellation and rescheduling in Korea was the worst thing that could've happened to BW in China. This is plain and simple, kicking the Chinese fans who were so excited to show up while they're down. Insult to injury, not only did they endure such incompetence in handling this situation, they won't even get a rescheduled event.

If I was KeSPA, I would've done absolutely everything in my utmost powers to reschedule in China. This is so dumb of them I'd be astounded if I didn't come to expect this from them.

The likelihood of rescheduling it in China is slim because the sponsors incurred big losses due to the postponement of the finals. This much was explained on Fomos. Kespa isn't god, if sponsors like Shinhan Bank don't want to reschedule it in China, then no go. It would also be very costly for the proteams to fly their players and staff into China again, not to mention the scheduling conflict. They have to arrive in China 1-2 days before the match, book hotel rooms/PC bangs to practice etc. There's just not enough time with STX Cup and OSL etc going on. Put aside your Kespa hatred for awhile and you might actually see some logic.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
August 06 2011 19:15 GMT
#1102
Definitely don't want Flash, Fantasy and Bisu to die in China. I want to see them play Starcraft 2 one day.
rslee
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada226 Posts
August 06 2011 19:31 GMT
#1103
On August 07 2011 03:56 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2011 03:38 hauton wrote:
I think overall this entire cancellation and rescheduling in Korea was the worst thing that could've happened to BW in China. This is plain and simple, kicking the Chinese fans who were so excited to show up while they're down. Insult to injury, not only did they endure such incompetence in handling this situation, they won't even get a rescheduled event.

If I was KeSPA, I would've done absolutely everything in my utmost powers to reschedule in China. This is so dumb of them I'd be astounded if I didn't come to expect this from them.

The likelihood of rescheduling it in China is slim because the sponsors incurred big losses due to the postponement of the finals. This much was explained on Fomos. Kespa isn't god, if sponsors like Shinhan Bank don't want to reschedule it in China, then no go. It would also be very costly for the proteams to fly their players and staff into China again, not to mention the scheduling conflict. They have to arrive in China 1-2 days before the match, book hotel rooms/PC bangs to practice etc. There's just not enough time with STX Cup and OSL etc going on. Put aside your Kespa hatred for awhile and you might actually see some logic.



Quoted for Truth.


Sure the cancellation was the worst thing that happened to BW in china but that's only because they haven't endured too much. I think they have bigger things to worry about, like a level 9 typhoon for example. It's not 100% up to kespa to reschedule in china. Just like it wasn't 100% their fault they had to cancel the event. They were going to go with the event regardless of a code orange from the government. They did this because they knew that rescheduling in china would have been slim to none had they cancelled.

Kespa needs sponsors for a reason; they don't have the funds to make the events. This means they have to go with what the sponsors want to do with their money. I'm sure it took endless negotiation and convincing for shinhan bank to hold the event in china. And now that all that money is down the drain, the only logical solution to a company of that caliber is to hold the even in korea.
Goal for when I go to korea: Hang out with 김택용
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-06 20:49:21
August 06 2011 20:49 GMT
#1104
Oh WOW...I came in expecting hundreds of pages, and when I only saw 56, I knew something was wrong...whoa. Guess it will be rescheduled then. Not sure whether this is good or bad, but I'll roll with it.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
August 06 2011 20:52 GMT
#1105
cant wait 2 weeks
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2094 Posts
August 06 2011 21:14 GMT
#1106
I wonder if the Power Rank will only be updated after the finals...
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10286 Posts
August 07 2011 00:40 GMT
#1107
On August 07 2011 06:14 Simplistik wrote:
I wonder if the Power Rank will only be updated after the finals...

I hope it updates now, just to make the lulz for typhoon and yellow at 1 and 2 on the pr. And then right when the finals finish upload the real pr with the fake linked in at the cnbc section. Or wait and have the typhoon and yellow in the shoutout section.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
August 07 2011 00:50 GMT
#1108
this is all just a cheap shot to make this thread reach 200 before the match starts
the date was known
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 07 2011 01:24 GMT
#1109
On August 07 2011 04:15 Zzoram wrote:
Definitely don't want Flash, Fantasy and Bisu to die in China. I want to see them play Starcraft 2 one day.


They will retire. They not going to play SC2. Ever.
☺
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7823 Posts
August 07 2011 01:27 GMT
#1110
I guess there are some pros to this. More hype... in Korea again... uhhh... ???

It just makes me sad because this kills KT's momentum or allows them to prepare better which kind of kills some of the playoff/seed dynamic.
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
August 07 2011 01:37 GMT
#1111
Results:

+ Show Spoiler +
Typhoon <Shanghai> Starcraft:BW
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
August 07 2011 01:38 GMT
#1112
On August 07 2011 10:37 Torenhire wrote:
Results:

+ Show Spoiler +
Typhoon <Shanghai> Starcraft:BW


damn... that is a hard map to start with
banelings
jersey109
Profile Joined August 2011
1 Post
August 07 2011 01:46 GMT
#1113
There's thousands sc fans from all over China to Shanghai to watch the SPL final, one of my friends spend 5 hours flying from north east of China to Shanghai, he was very upset too.

When the fans see KT and SKT players present, they are so exiting, I have a pregame video to share for you.

http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjkyMjE1MTg4.html/v.swf



AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-07 01:55:03
August 07 2011 01:52 GMT
#1114
Lol at that mob following Jaedong.

But seriously.. there were so many people there wow I can't believe it got canceled... T_T that is going to hurt BW so bad.
always tired -_-
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3336 Posts
August 07 2011 02:40 GMT
#1115
I know why this was postponed!!! KESPA and China saw this thread and deemed it unfit to start the finals till this before it hit 100 pages...
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
August 07 2011 02:47 GMT
#1116
Obviously all the gods want to keep this until 2 weeks so Flash's wrist can repose and rape Bisu *hides*
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
August 07 2011 03:04 GMT
#1117
On August 07 2011 10:46 jersey109 wrote:
There's thousands sc fans from all over China to Shanghai to watch the SPL final, one of my friends spend 5 hours flying from north east of China to Shanghai, he was very upset too.

When the fans see KT and SKT players present, they are so exiting, I have a pregame video to share for you.

http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjkyMjE1MTg4.html/v.swf





The mob of fans following Jaedong was hilarious. It would have also have been great if Bisu waved at the crowd on the bus
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
August 07 2011 03:27 GMT
#1118
Did KeSPA still retain those deals they had with local Chinese TV stations to rebroadcast the PL Finals? After all, it was the viewership ratings/numbers that was going to truly matter, not the live audience..
Writerptrk
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
August 07 2011 03:36 GMT
#1119
On August 07 2011 12:27 ArvickHero wrote:
Did KeSPA still retain those deals they had with local Chinese TV stations to rebroadcast the PL Finals? After all, it was the viewership ratings/numbers that was going to truly matter, not the live audience..



I don't think that news ever made it to TL :/ How many stations were they working with?

Side note: That Chinese video of the finals was cool.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
August 07 2011 04:32 GMT
#1120
awesome vid indeed even has 2 TL-ers in it (Endy and American guy whose name I forgot (SRY! bad name memory ^^), kespa also flew in somekorean fans, they paid 75% of the cost of their stay and flight... i htink it was around 10-20 ppl for each team.. so that was also extra cost...
we talked to one of the korean fans for a little bit, he seemed like a nice guy and his english was good so that was cool, of course they were also disappointed and didn't seem to know what was going on since the only announcement they made was in Chinese...
too bad they couldnt reschedule to today... weather is fine it seems :{ had some rain and semi hard wind late last night/early in the morning but nothing too bad ...
its me
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