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Baddieko
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore855 Posts
July 28 2011 13:02 GMT
#761
stork watched all Last's games today and know he will go sneaky 3rd.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 28 2011 13:02 GMT
#762
On July 28 2011 21:58 Koka-kola wrote:
Interesting though, how a less skilled player (Roro) would go 2-0 instead of Last, who actually deserved to go through more than a 3 hatch buster, hmmm.


I am confused how you not only assume Roro is bad, but also assume Last is good. It's like you just mixed up who's who.
Remember Violet.
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
July 28 2011 13:09 GMT
#763
To be fair, all Protoss players should be wary of the 3-hatch bust from Wemade zergs. I can't count the number of times I have seen either Shine or Roro hydra bust a protoss that failed to make enough cannons or defend properly.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
July 28 2011 13:14 GMT
#764
On July 28 2011 22:01 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 21:58 Koka-kola wrote:
Interesting though, how a less skilled player (Roro) would go 2-0 instead of Last, who actually deserved to go through more than a 3 hatch lucker, hmmm.

Roro is actually pretty decent. If you take away his games vs Bisu and Jaedong hes actually got pretty good stats in ZvP\ZvZ. He usually loses against the best players, but hes a solid mid level player and I at least was not surprised he went 2-0 with the current shape of Stork.

edit : im slow lol 3 people posting the same thing before me

I should have put it this way:
"Why a player with a more desent games today should be out, than a toss hydrabuster."

Yeah, Roro does better.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
July 28 2011 13:22 GMT
#765
On July 28 2011 22:14 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:01 Oystein wrote:
On July 28 2011 21:58 Koka-kola wrote:
Interesting though, how a less skilled player (Roro) would go 2-0 instead of Last, who actually deserved to go through more than a 3 hatch lucker, hmmm.

Roro is actually pretty decent. If you take away his games vs Bisu and Jaedong hes actually got pretty good stats in ZvP\ZvZ. He usually loses against the best players, but hes a solid mid level player and I at least was not surprised he went 2-0 with the current shape of Stork.

edit : im slow lol 3 people posting the same thing before me

I should have put it this way:
"Why a player with a more desent games today should be out, than a toss hydrabuster."

Yeah, Roro does better.

Roro is a good player. That he didn't need to show it today is the fault of Paralyze and Stork. I think you're implying that roro only has good stats because of hydrabusts, and I don't think that's right.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 28 2011 13:25 GMT
#766
On July 28 2011 22:14 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:01 Oystein wrote:
On July 28 2011 21:58 Koka-kola wrote:
Interesting though, how a less skilled player (Roro) would go 2-0 instead of Last, who actually deserved to go through more than a 3 hatch lucker, hmmm.

Roro is actually pretty decent. If you take away his games vs Bisu and Jaedong hes actually got pretty good stats in ZvP\ZvZ. He usually loses against the best players, but hes a solid mid level player and I at least was not surprised he went 2-0 with the current shape of Stork.

edit : im slow lol 3 people posting the same thing before me

I should have put it this way:
"Why a player with a more desent games today should be out, than a toss hydrabuster."

Yeah, Roro does better.


Roro is an unambiguously better player than both Last and Paralyze. The best two players advanced today.
Remember Violet.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
July 28 2011 13:25 GMT
#767
On July 28 2011 22:22 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:14 Koka-kola wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:01 Oystein wrote:
On July 28 2011 21:58 Koka-kola wrote:
Interesting though, how a less skilled player (Roro) would go 2-0 instead of Last, who actually deserved to go through more than a 3 hatch lucker, hmmm.

Roro is actually pretty decent. If you take away his games vs Bisu and Jaedong hes actually got pretty good stats in ZvP\ZvZ. He usually loses against the best players, but hes a solid mid level player and I at least was not surprised he went 2-0 with the current shape of Stork.

edit : im slow lol 3 people posting the same thing before me

I should have put it this way:
"Why a player with a more desent games today should be out, than a toss hydrabuster."

Yeah, Roro does better.

Roro is a good player. That he didn't need to show it today is the fault of Paralyze and Stork. I think you're implying that roro only has good stats because of hydrabusts, and I don't think that's right.

No, just as I said, its interesting, how you can just slide through without much work, and the other guy sweating the pants off himself and still gets zero. That is quite ironic. We all know that Roro will probably choke on the next stage as he always does.
Just a thought
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 13:29:03
July 28 2011 13:28 GMT
#768
On July 28 2011 22:25 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:22 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:14 Koka-kola wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:01 Oystein wrote:
On July 28 2011 21:58 Koka-kola wrote:
Interesting though, how a less skilled player (Roro) would go 2-0 instead of Last, who actually deserved to go through more than a 3 hatch lucker, hmmm.

Roro is actually pretty decent. If you take away his games vs Bisu and Jaedong hes actually got pretty good stats in ZvP\ZvZ. He usually loses against the best players, but hes a solid mid level player and I at least was not surprised he went 2-0 with the current shape of Stork.

edit : im slow lol 3 people posting the same thing before me

I should have put it this way:
"Why a player with a more desent games today should be out, than a toss hydrabuster."

Yeah, Roro does better.

Roro is a good player. That he didn't need to show it today is the fault of Paralyze and Stork. I think you're implying that roro only has good stats because of hydrabusts, and I don't think that's right.

No, just as I said, its interesting, how you can just slide through without much work, and the other guy sweating the pants off himself and still gets zero. That is quite ironic. We all know that Roro will probably choke on the next stage as he always does.
Just a thought

Yeah you can say that, in the end you never know

He beat Bisu in the proleague, watch that game and call him bad again. Notice how similar that was to the game vs Paralyze except he fucking owned him and it was close vs Bisu
I dare you
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
July 28 2011 13:31 GMT
#769
On July 28 2011 22:25 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:22 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:14 Koka-kola wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:01 Oystein wrote:
On July 28 2011 21:58 Koka-kola wrote:
Interesting though, how a less skilled player (Roro) would go 2-0 instead of Last, who actually deserved to go through more than a 3 hatch lucker, hmmm.

Roro is actually pretty decent. If you take away his games vs Bisu and Jaedong hes actually got pretty good stats in ZvP\ZvZ. He usually loses against the best players, but hes a solid mid level player and I at least was not surprised he went 2-0 with the current shape of Stork.

edit : im slow lol 3 people posting the same thing before me

I should have put it this way:
"Why a player with a more desent games today should be out, than a toss hydrabuster."

Yeah, Roro does better.

Roro is a good player. That he didn't need to show it today is the fault of Paralyze and Stork. I think you're implying that roro only has good stats because of hydrabusts, and I don't think that's right.

No, just as I said, its interesting, how you can just slide through without much work, and the other guy sweating the pants off himself and still gets zero. That is quite ironic. We all know that Roro will probably choke on the next stage as he always does.
Just a thought


You're probably right about roro choking but he often brings awesome games even if he loses them. Some epics doom drops and whatever, Roro can be very entertaining. Today wasn't like this unfortunately, but he still got through.

But yeah, TODAY Roro played nothing impressive, Last, on the other hand, played really well. But in the long time, I think we'll benefit more from Roro's games than Last's. Maybe I'm totally wrong but Last is not entertaining very often.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 13:34:08
July 28 2011 13:33 GMT
#770
On July 28 2011 22:28 Iplaythings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:25 Koka-kola wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:22 Elyvilon wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:14 Koka-kola wrote:
On July 28 2011 22:01 Oystein wrote:
On July 28 2011 21:58 Koka-kola wrote:
Interesting though, how a less skilled player (Roro) would go 2-0 instead of Last, who actually deserved to go through more than a 3 hatch lucker, hmmm.

Roro is actually pretty decent. If you take away his games vs Bisu and Jaedong hes actually got pretty good stats in ZvP\ZvZ. He usually loses against the best players, but hes a solid mid level player and I at least was not surprised he went 2-0 with the current shape of Stork.

edit : im slow lol 3 people posting the same thing before me

I should have put it this way:
"Why a player with a more desent games today should be out, than a toss hydrabuster."

Yeah, Roro does better.

Roro is a good player. That he didn't need to show it today is the fault of Paralyze and Stork. I think you're implying that roro only has good stats because of hydrabusts, and I don't think that's right.

No, just as I said, its interesting, how you can just slide through without much work, and the other guy sweating the pants off himself and still gets zero. That is quite ironic. We all know that Roro will probably choke on the next stage as he always does.
Just a thought

Yeah you can say that, in the end you never know

He beat Bisu in the proleague, watch that game and call him bad again. Notice how similar that was to the game vs Paralyze except he fucking owned him and it was close vs Bisu
I dare you

I saw the game, yeah forgot about the fact, Roro exploited the map nicely.
He is a fare middle class player, that I think never plays like Stork today:|, but he doesn't play exceptionally well too. So any solid strategy or trick will dissect him like butter (remember Stats).
I don't know Last, as I haven't seen games of him. And would rather see a rookie again than an old good Roro whos capabilities we all know.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 28 2011 13:40 GMT
#771
Last isn't a rookie, he's been around for 3 years and has been mediocre to bad the whole time.
Remember Violet.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
July 28 2011 13:46 GMT
#772
On July 28 2011 22:40 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Last isn't a rookie, he's been around for 3 years and has been mediocre to bad the whole time.

wooo, my bad, 3 years...
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 28 2011 13:46 GMT
#773
On July 28 2011 22:40 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Last isn't a rookie, he's been around for 3 years and has been mediocre to bad the whole time.


Not all players break out quickly, case in point: KIller
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
July 28 2011 13:47 GMT
#774
On July 28 2011 22:46 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:40 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Last isn't a rookie, he's been around for 3 years and has been mediocre to bad the whole time.


Not all players break out quickly, case in point: KIller


True, Last is still 18.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 13:50:26
July 28 2011 13:48 GMT
#775
On July 28 2011 22:46 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 22:40 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Last isn't a rookie, he's been around for 3 years and has been mediocre to bad the whole time.


Not all players break out quickly, case in point: KIller


Yes, but in this case, Roro's only been around like 4 months more than Last. Last just A: wasn't good and B: was on an STX team that has, for the last 3 years, had plenty of depth and no reason to play a player as bad as he is. Roro's a better player right now and that's all I said. I'm not sure how good he might be if he somehow turns out like killer matters.
Remember Violet.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
July 28 2011 13:51 GMT
#776
One thing I really hate is a terran expanding egregiously off of a few tanks simply because he plays terran. And I enjoyed seeing Stork deciding to make units rather than expanding to kill that gay build.

Now if only protoss could stop the old tried and true hydra bust that seems to work way too often, we might actually see some tosses late in the SLs.
Meh
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
July 28 2011 13:51 GMT
#777
On July 28 2011 19:38 endy wrote:
Best's macro + Jangbi's storms + Stork game sense and micro

that's Bisu.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
July 28 2011 13:53 GMT
#778
On July 28 2011 22:51 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 19:38 endy wrote:
Best's macro + Jangbi's storms + Stork game sense and micro

that's Bisu.


"Stork micro" nope.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 28 2011 13:55 GMT
#779
In what magical world do you live where Stork's micro is even close to Bisu's?

Well besides carriers.
Remember Violet.
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
July 28 2011 14:01 GMT
#780
On July 28 2011 22:51 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 19:38 endy wrote:
Best's macro + Jangbi's storms + Stork game sense and micro

that's Bisu.


Bisu + storm ?
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