I love Bisu more than anyone else and god knows thats true, but if I see a picture of him after page 5 it will result in 2 days ban. Thats enough, be warned.
-disciple

maximuspita

1093 Posts

July 24 2011 05:39 GMT

#1121

On July 24 2011 14:38 nodule wrote:
WHY ARE PEOPLE DISCUSSING BISU RIGHT NOW

I know. Sorry about that. KT I BELIEVED AND MY PRAYERS WERE REWARDED!!

Apex

United States7227 Posts

July 24 2011 05:39 GMT

#1122

On July 24 2011 14:34 Condor Hero wrote:

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well cj has to play leta right?
i say just let flash clean up, hes obviously favored vs anyone right now

There's always the chance CJ might actually play Skyhigh too as the vT specialist expecting Flash but it's probably safer for them to go Leta if KT tries to pull something unexpected

EDIT: Oh shit, poster below me just pointed out Snow hasn't come out yet. Oops. That's likely too. >__<

doothegee

Korea (South)3011 Posts

July 24 2011 05:39 GMT

#1123

WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT SKYHIGH WHO IS TERRIBLE WHEN THERE IS SNOW LEFT

Milkis

5003 Posts

July 24 2011 05:40 GMT

#1124

leta vs flash

munchmunch

Canada789 Posts

July 24 2011 05:40 GMT

#1125

On July 24 2011 14:37 deafhobbit wrote:
I don't know why people are complaining about these games. yeah, they've been mostly one sided, but at least they've been entertaining. Don't tell me your jaw didn't hit the floor during Hoejja's ling run by.

Someone else gets kicked in the balls, its entertainment. I get kicked in the balls, I'm on the floor crying. Right now, I'm feeling more like I got in the balls, TBH.

mnesthes

5433 Posts

July 24 2011 05:40 GMT

#1126

On July 24 2011 14:39 doothegee wrote:
WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT SKYHIGH WHO IS TERRIBLE WHEN THERE IS SNOW LEFT

Snow hasn't been too hot lately either I'm afraid.

Hyde

Australia14568 Posts

July 24 2011 05:40 GMT

#1127

On July 24 2011 14:38 Black[CAT] wrote:
What is the title of the song and artist on nanashin stream?

Orange caramel - one love

esla_sol

United States756 Posts

July 24 2011 05:40 GMT

#1128

ALRIGHT CJ LETS DO THIS

YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING. KEEP YOUR HEADS UP IT IS TIME TO PWN.

salito

1649 Posts

July 24 2011 05:40 GMT

#1129

CJ has Leta and Snow.
Leta probably practiced for La Mancha, Snow for Neo Aztec.

Flash is going to be sent on La Mancha, so I'd switch it up and send Snow. Then send Leta on Neo Aztec to beat Crazy-Hydra.

FlaShFTW

United States10569 Posts

July 24 2011 05:40 GMT

#1130

Damn it, time to pull out the razor blades. No reach makes me very sad

mnesthes

5433 Posts

July 24 2011 05:41 GMT

#1131

Flash ain't gonna show up on Aztec imo

King K. Rool

Canada4408 Posts

July 24 2011 05:41 GMT

#1132

On July 24 2011 14:39 doothegee wrote:
WHY IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT SKYHIGH WHO IS TERRIBLE WHEN THERE IS SNOW LEFT

his tvt is brilliant when hes not sucking like he is recently.

doothegee

Korea (South)3011 Posts

July 24 2011 05:41 GMT

#1133

On July 24 2011 14:40 mnesthes wrote:

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Snow hasn't been too hot lately either I'm afraid.

Skyhigh hasn't done anything for two years. The only one who can beat with his one good matchup is Fantasy, who is equally terrible.

DarkMatter_

Canada1774 Posts

July 24 2011 05:41 GMT

#1134

On July 24 2011 14:35 Fionn wrote:

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Yes.

No. KT zergs will be useless against SKT. SKT zergs are much better at ZvZ than KT zergs and Bisu can rape pretty much any zerg on KT. KT zergs aren't very good at ZvT so Fantasy should be able to beat them too. Best is the only one who's vulnerable to being sniped by a zerg. Apart from their zergs, KT only has Flash, Stats, Barracks, Tempest. Tempest sucks and Barracks still hasn't really proven himself. And unlike CJ, SKT actually has several players that can beat Flash.

GeLaar

2421 Posts

July 24 2011 05:41 GMT

#1135

On July 24 2011 14:39 mnesthes wrote:

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On July 24 2011 14:37 GeLaar wrote:

On July 24 2011 14:33 krndandaman wrote:

On July 24 2011 14:30 GHOSTCLAW wrote:

On July 24 2011 14:30 krndandaman wrote:

On July 24 2011 14:27 GHOSTCLAW wrote:

On July 24 2011 14:25 krndandaman wrote:

On July 24 2011 14:23 SkiZou wrote:

On July 24 2011 14:21 krndandaman wrote:

On July 24 2011 14:17 J1.au wrote:
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Huh? I thought Effort was S-class.

well like the other guys said, if you're going to be lenient with S-class you might consider effort in there. but the true S-class at the moment is leessang (flash/jd) and the old one was TBLS (flash/jd/bisu/stork)
effort didnt show dominance for too long... his was just a short spree like forgg

Well you could include Bisu in the S-class as well. Although he has been mediocre in starleagues for years now, at least he has very, very impressive record in this season's proleague.

yes his proleague record is badass (over 80%) but he has been seriously failing so hard in individual leagues that its hard to consider him S-class. look at the players he loses to in individual leagues... and I would never favor bisu over JD or Flash in a game let alone a boX

bisu > everyone in elo right now

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players

His list of accomplishments is also better than everyone who's not jaedong/flash, and you kind of want a protoss in there. It would make sense to have an S class list include at least 1 of each race... unless you're going to claim that the people who play protoss is worse, which is T_T

well yeah cause of his proleague record lols. iirc it was like 62-15 or something ridic like that.
but his kespa rank is quite low (reflects his lack of wins in starleagues). right now bisu is looking alot more like a better version of Sea and Sea was never even considered S-class. was/is he even considered A class?

sea was A for sure, and don't forget that bisu took out savior back when savior was unstoppable.

oh by no means am I denying bisu was S-class. he was surely S-class and the best player in the world a while back but I'm hesitant to put him up at S-class with Flash/JD right now. He's the best protoss at the moment without a doubt though.

anddd GG from bbyong 3:1 for KT
CJ is screwed. Flash has 2 chances to finish it off and Flash never chokes that hard

So constantly owning everyone in Proleague, including Jaedong like 4 or 5 times this year, makes you hesitant to put him up at S-class with Flash and Jaedong?

He wouldn't be as hesitant if Bisu could make it past the Ro16 of any individual league for 2 years now.

Bisu had a long slump, that's common knowledge. But the question was whether he can be counted as S-class right now, based on recent performance and current strength. And I'm surprised that it's even a question.

Edit: Yep, this was a bit off-topic. Sorry for that.

Back to the matter at hand: If KT can prepare their match-ups for the finals as well as they did today, things will get really, really interesting.