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[SPL] PO,KT Rolster vs CJ Entus Day 2 - Page 56

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I love Bisu more than anyone else and god knows thats true, but if I see a picture of him after page 5 it will result in 2 days ban. Thats enough, be warned.
-disciple
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
July 24 2011 05:36 GMT
#1101
On July 24 2011 14:35 mnesthes wrote:
Actually KT can throw literally anyone right now to bait out the Flash snipers, I'm thinking they'll do that.


I bet their entire team practiced to snipe flash lol.
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 05:36 GMT
#1102
Oh well, at least now I won't be have to sad about missing the finals.
웅진 멘쓰즈
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-24 05:37:23
July 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1103
I don't know why people are complaining about these games. yeah, they've been mostly one sided, but at least they've been entertaining. Don't tell me your jaw didn't hit the floor during Hoejja's ling run by.
I cheer for underdogs and Flash
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
July 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1104
On July 24 2011 14:33 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 14:30 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:30 krndandaman wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:27 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:25 krndandaman wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:23 SkiZou wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:21 krndandaman wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:17 J1.au wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:15 krndandaman wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:12 Release wrote:
[quote]
Flash lost twice in one day last year against Effort and Snow. o.O Coincidence?!!!


no effort now. and he was the only non S-class guy who could somehow win against flash alot... lol

and snow got 1 snipe on Flash, he lost all other 3 times he played flash

Huh? I thought Effort was S-class.


well like the other guys said, if you're going to be lenient with S-class you might consider effort in there. but the true S-class at the moment is leessang (flash/jd) and the old one was TBLS (flash/jd/bisu/stork)
effort didnt show dominance for too long... his was just a short spree like forgg


Well you could include Bisu in the S-class as well. Although he has been mediocre in starleagues for years now, at least he has very, very impressive record in this season's proleague.


yes his proleague record is badass (over 80%) but he has been seriously failing so hard in individual leagues that its hard to consider him S-class. look at the players he loses to in individual leagues... and I would never favor bisu over JD or Flash in a game let alone a boX


bisu > everyone in elo right now

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players

His list of accomplishments is also better than everyone who's not jaedong/flash, and you kind of want a protoss in there. It would make sense to have an S class list include at least 1 of each race... unless you're going to claim that the people who play protoss is worse, which is T_T


well yeah cause of his proleague record lols. iirc it was like 62-15 or something ridic like that.
but his kespa rank is quite low (reflects his lack of wins in starleagues). right now bisu is looking alot more like a better version of Sea and Sea was never even considered S-class. was/is he even considered A class?


sea was A for sure, and don't forget that bisu took out savior back when savior was unstoppable.


oh by no means am I denying bisu was S-class. he was surely S-class and the best player in the world a while back but I'm hesitant to put him up at S-class with Flash/JD right now. He's the best protoss at the moment without a doubt though.

anddd GG from bbyong 3:1 for KT
CJ is screwed. Flash has 2 chances to finish it off and Flash never chokes that hard


So constantly owning everyone in Proleague, including Jaedong like 4 or 5 times this year, makes you hesitant to put him up at S-class with Flash and Jaedong?
Brood War is alive and well.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1105
On July 24 2011 14:34 KTF_CloaK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 14:32 Doraemon wrote:
gg....leta vs flash to end this horrible series


they have skyhigh left?

and why Flash, use perfective to give him experience or CH


are you really going to send out skyhigh with the last game of the season on the line?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
July 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1106
Ugh... Dang it I was really excited when hydra won the first set... Wow how choke can you get?
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19379 Posts
July 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1107
On July 24 2011 14:35 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 14:34 JIJIyO wrote:
Is CJ the most unclutch team in playoffs ever? Can't remember how many times they failed in certain situations.


ever since they introduced the new playoff system, pretty much fail all three seasons =[

the day they sent darkelf for ace against sea.... god damn i was so pissed off, then he won and i laughed.

LOL and darkelf holds a record for losses in one match up.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10542 Posts
July 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1108
If kt doesnt send out reach, ima cut myself
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
JIJIyO
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1957 Posts
July 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1109
On July 24 2011 14:35 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 14:34 JIJIyO wrote:
Is CJ the most unclutch team in playoffs ever? Can't remember how many times they failed in certain situations.


ever since they introduced the new playoff system, pretty much fail all three seasons =[

the day they sent darkelf for ace against sea.... god damn i was so pissed off, then he won and i laughed.

Ya man..........that was like the only time I remember being like FUCK YES DON'T DOUBT COACH CHO! And also Movie vs Leta during WL I think.

Sad times.

On July 24 2011 14:35 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 14:34 JIJIyO wrote:
Is CJ the most unclutch team in playoffs ever? Can't remember how many times they failed in certain situations.


STX bar none. They lose just as much in recent years and never won before hand either.

Perhaps, but they don't make playoffs enough to choke as much imo.
KT_Violet
maximuspita
Profile Joined April 2010
1093 Posts
July 24 2011 05:37 GMT
#1110
Bisu is the real deal. I just can't stand his fanboys.
Korean Air, please save Fox.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
July 24 2011 05:38 GMT
#1111
3-1 KT with Flash to play? OMG
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
July 24 2011 05:38 GMT
#1112
Map 6 is Aztec. Pretty sure Flash will play La Mancha next.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
July 24 2011 05:38 GMT
#1113
WHY ARE PEOPLE DISCUSSING BISU RIGHT NOW
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 24 2011 05:38 GMT
#1114
too bad they can't send out hydra again, although i'm guessing they were hoping taht flash was going to go out set 1
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Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
July 24 2011 05:38 GMT
#1115
What is the title of the song and artist on nanashin stream?
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 24 2011 05:38 GMT
#1116
On July 24 2011 14:38 nodule wrote:
WHY ARE PEOPLE DISCUSSING BISU RIGHT NOW



I really have no idea
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
July 24 2011 05:39 GMT
#1117
On July 24 2011 14:37 GeLaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 14:33 krndandaman wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:30 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:30 krndandaman wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:27 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:25 krndandaman wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:23 SkiZou wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:21 krndandaman wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:17 J1.au wrote:
On July 24 2011 14:15 krndandaman wrote:
[quote]

no effort now. and he was the only non S-class guy who could somehow win against flash alot... lol

and snow got 1 snipe on Flash, he lost all other 3 times he played flash

Huh? I thought Effort was S-class.


well like the other guys said, if you're going to be lenient with S-class you might consider effort in there. but the true S-class at the moment is leessang (flash/jd) and the old one was TBLS (flash/jd/bisu/stork)
effort didnt show dominance for too long... his was just a short spree like forgg


Well you could include Bisu in the S-class as well. Although he has been mediocre in starleagues for years now, at least he has very, very impressive record in this season's proleague.


yes his proleague record is badass (over 80%) but he has been seriously failing so hard in individual leagues that its hard to consider him S-class. look at the players he loses to in individual leagues... and I would never favor bisu over JD or Flash in a game let alone a boX


bisu > everyone in elo right now

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players

His list of accomplishments is also better than everyone who's not jaedong/flash, and you kind of want a protoss in there. It would make sense to have an S class list include at least 1 of each race... unless you're going to claim that the people who play protoss is worse, which is T_T


well yeah cause of his proleague record lols. iirc it was like 62-15 or something ridic like that.
but his kespa rank is quite low (reflects his lack of wins in starleagues). right now bisu is looking alot more like a better version of Sea and Sea was never even considered S-class. was/is he even considered A class?


sea was A for sure, and don't forget that bisu took out savior back when savior was unstoppable.


oh by no means am I denying bisu was S-class. he was surely S-class and the best player in the world a while back but I'm hesitant to put him up at S-class with Flash/JD right now. He's the best protoss at the moment without a doubt though.

anddd GG from bbyong 3:1 for KT
CJ is screwed. Flash has 2 chances to finish it off and Flash never chokes that hard


So constantly owning everyone in Proleague, including Jaedong like 4 or 5 times this year, makes you hesitant to put him up at S-class with Flash and Jaedong?
He wouldn't be as hesitant if Bisu could make it past the Ro16 of any individual league for 2 years now.
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doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
July 24 2011 05:39 GMT
#1118
On July 24 2011 14:36 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 14:34 JIJIyO wrote:
Is CJ the most unclutch team in playoffs ever? Can't remember how many times they failed in certain situations.


I truely believe they have potential to beat anyone. But history shows that in the playoffs they don't show up. That's why I LB-ed KT twice this series. Even stars came out and played with some friggin heart.

You looked at history and decided you should bet on KT?

I know it was probably the right choice, but the irony of that statement is killing me.
웅진 멘쓰즈
beachbeachy
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States509 Posts
July 24 2011 05:39 GMT
#1119
On July 24 2011 14:38 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
too bad they can't send out hydra again, although i'm guessing they were hoping taht flash was going to go out set 1


No way...
Dream no small dreams for they have no power to move the hearts of men. - Goethe
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
July 24 2011 05:39 GMT
#1120
On July 24 2011 14:35 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 14:34 JIJIyO wrote:
Is CJ the most unclutch team in playoffs ever? Can't remember how many times they failed in certain situations.


ever since they introduced the new playoff system, pretty much fail all three seasons =[

the day they sent darkelf for ace against sea.... god damn i was so pissed off, then he won and i laughed.

This was one of the funniest PL moments ever for me.
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