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I love Bisu more than anyone else and god knows thats true, but if I see a picture of him after page 5 it will result in 2 days ban. Thats enough, be warned.
-disciple
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
July 25 2011 19:20 GMT
#2761
On July 26 2011 01:46 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 15:04 VGhost wrote:
On July 25 2011 13:01 Lebesgue wrote:
Couldn't watch either day live unfortunately. But I'm surprised that KT advanced with such an ease. On paper CJ looked way stronger and all I hoped was that KT will bring it to the ace and Flash will close it. Instead Flash went only 1-1 and still KT won both days 4:2.

Good job KT! Makes me extremely happy.


Honestly you will never know how unspeakably happy it makes me that Woongjin gave KT a much better fight than CJ did.

There's always next season... and with Light, I honestly think there's a chance to take it all (aka getting a higher seed).


I really dislike the current seeding the top 2 get. IMO it should be something more like #1 and #2 get a buy past the first round. #3 v #6 winner plays #2, #4 v #5 winner plays #1. Getting seeded directly into the finals is just crazy.


While i do understand where you are coming from, that team #2 and especially #1 gets a huge advantage in the play-offs, i dont really dislike the system. Right now, we have teams working really hard through out the season to vie for the top spot, since it gives them this much privilege.. This intense competition can be seen between teams all throughout the season. If we go by your system, the competition will likely be a lot less fierce, since top 2 spots only got 1 game advantage comepared to the rest of the pack, and theres no different between top 1 n 2 at all (trivial difference anw).
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
July 25 2011 23:49 GMT
#2762
On July 26 2011 04:06 rabidch wrote:
kt hwaiting, get revenge on skt for last year~


We won last year bro
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
July 26 2011 00:41 GMT
#2763
On July 26 2011 04:06 rabidch wrote:
kt hwaiting, get revenge on skt for last year~


kt won last year......
teamblackeye.com ///// http://www.youtube.com/user/gostunv ///// https://twitter.com/forgenjuro
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
July 26 2011 03:58 GMT
#2764
On July 26 2011 09:41 gostunv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 04:06 rabidch wrote:
kt hwaiting, get revenge on skt for last year~


kt won last year......


he means WL
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Lightningbullet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States507 Posts
July 26 2011 04:04 GMT
#2765
KT vs. SKT YEEEEEEEEEEEAHH!!!
BoxeR is AWESOME!!!!//Proud 2nd Member of the BW>SC2 club.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
July 26 2011 04:46 GMT
#2766
--- Nuked ---
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
July 26 2011 05:32 GMT
#2767
wtf? sharon is crazier than her husband
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
July 26 2011 05:37 GMT
#2768
On July 26 2011 14:32 EpiK wrote:
wtf? sharon is crazier than her husband


Yeah....................Bisu!!!
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
July 26 2011 05:44 GMT
#2769
Time for da suit
▲ ▲ ▲
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
July 26 2011 05:51 GMT
#2770
On July 26 2011 01:46 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 15:04 VGhost wrote:
On July 25 2011 13:01 Lebesgue wrote:
Couldn't watch either day live unfortunately. But I'm surprised that KT advanced with such an ease. On paper CJ looked way stronger and all I hoped was that KT will bring it to the ace and Flash will close it. Instead Flash went only 1-1 and still KT won both days 4:2.

Good job KT! Makes me extremely happy.


Honestly you will never know how unspeakably happy it makes me that Woongjin gave KT a much better fight than CJ did.

There's always next season... and with Light, I honestly think there's a chance to take it all (aka getting a higher seed).


I really dislike the current seeding the top 2 get. IMO it should be something more like #1 and #2 get a buy past the first round. #3 v #6 winner plays #2, #4 v #5 winner plays #1. Getting seeded directly into the finals is just crazy.


I think it would've been pretty outrageous if the team that had no losses in two out of six rounds, won the WL, and had an overall decent lead at the end of the season, somehow had not made it into the finals because of two matches in the playoffs. Upsets do happen, and a Proleague finals without SKT this year would have been ridiculous.
Brood War is alive and well.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 06:09:13
July 26 2011 06:05 GMT
#2771
On July 26 2011 14:51 GeLaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 01:46 revy wrote:
On July 25 2011 15:04 VGhost wrote:
On July 25 2011 13:01 Lebesgue wrote:
Couldn't watch either day live unfortunately. But I'm surprised that KT advanced with such an ease. On paper CJ looked way stronger and all I hoped was that KT will bring it to the ace and Flash will close it. Instead Flash went only 1-1 and still KT won both days 4:2.

Good job KT! Makes me extremely happy.


Honestly you will never know how unspeakably happy it makes me that Woongjin gave KT a much better fight than CJ did.

There's always next season... and with Light, I honestly think there's a chance to take it all (aka getting a higher seed).


I really dislike the current seeding the top 2 get. IMO it should be something more like #1 and #2 get a buy past the first round. #3 v #6 winner plays #2, #4 v #5 winner plays #1. Getting seeded directly into the finals is just crazy.


I think it would've been pretty outrageous if the team that had no losses in two out of six rounds, won the WL, and had an overall decent lead at the end of the season, somehow had not made it into the finals because of two matches in the playoffs. Upsets do happen, and a Proleague finals without SKT this year would have been ridiculous.

It was pretty outrageous last year when the #1 seed in the AFC, which also had the best record in the NFL, lost to the #6 seed, but that happened. It was pretty outrageous when the team with the best record in the AL went up 3-0 in the ALCS versus the wildcard team and then lost 4-3, failing to make it to the World Series, but that happened too. It's called "competition." You might as well say that it's outrageous for the team that [BLAH BLAH BLAH] not to take the Proleague crown and thus argue that they should get first place automatically without playing in the playoffs at all.

Edit: Also, the post you quoted would have had #1 and #2 playing one playoff match before reaching the finals, not two.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 06:40:48
July 26 2011 06:30 GMT
#2772
On July 26 2011 15:05 gngfn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 14:51 GeLaar wrote:
On July 26 2011 01:46 revy wrote:
On July 25 2011 15:04 VGhost wrote:
On July 25 2011 13:01 Lebesgue wrote:
Couldn't watch either day live unfortunately. But I'm surprised that KT advanced with such an ease. On paper CJ looked way stronger and all I hoped was that KT will bring it to the ace and Flash will close it. Instead Flash went only 1-1 and still KT won both days 4:2.

Good job KT! Makes me extremely happy.


Honestly you will never know how unspeakably happy it makes me that Woongjin gave KT a much better fight than CJ did.

There's always next season... and with Light, I honestly think there's a chance to take it all (aka getting a higher seed).


I really dislike the current seeding the top 2 get. IMO it should be something more like #1 and #2 get a buy past the first round. #3 v #6 winner plays #2, #4 v #5 winner plays #1. Getting seeded directly into the finals is just crazy.


I think it would've been pretty outrageous if the team that had no losses in two out of six rounds, won the WL, and had an overall decent lead at the end of the season, somehow had not made it into the finals because of two matches in the playoffs. Upsets do happen, and a Proleague finals without SKT this year would have been ridiculous.

It was pretty outrageous last year when the #1 seed in the AFC, which also had the best record in the NFL, lost to the #6 seed, but that happened. It was pretty outrageous when the team with the best record in the AL went up 3-0 in the ALCS versus the wildcard team and then lost 4-3, failing to make it to the World Series, but that happened too. It's called "competition." You might as well say that it's outrageous for the team that [BLAH BLAH BLAH] not to take the Proleague crown and thus argue that they should get first place automatically without playing in the playoffs at all.

Edit: Also, the post you quoted would have had #1 and #2 playing one playoff match before reaching the finals, not two.


I have no idea what AFC, NFL, ALCS etc. are. I'm talking about professional Starcraft.

My point was that having SKT play more games now to prove that they deserve a spot in the finals would have been meaningless. They've proven themselves enough this year. And it was already pointed out in another post that having even the top 2 ranked teams play more games in the play-offs would make the competition throughout the regular season much less fierce. Why bother getting a 10-win lead over the the last team to make it into the play-offs, if all you get for it is having to play two fewer play-off matches? Also, you would run the risk of having teams that barely made it into the play-offs play the grand finals, because they performed well for two weeks at the very end. So it would make both the competition during the regular season, AND the finals pointless.

Edit: When I said "two matches", i meant the day 1 and day 2 matches, not the number of teams they would have to face.
Brood War is alive and well.
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
July 26 2011 07:47 GMT
#2773
On July 26 2011 15:30 GeLaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 15:05 gngfn wrote:
On July 26 2011 14:51 GeLaar wrote:
On July 26 2011 01:46 revy wrote:
On July 25 2011 15:04 VGhost wrote:
On July 25 2011 13:01 Lebesgue wrote:
Couldn't watch either day live unfortunately. But I'm surprised that KT advanced with such an ease. On paper CJ looked way stronger and all I hoped was that KT will bring it to the ace and Flash will close it. Instead Flash went only 1-1 and still KT won both days 4:2.

Good job KT! Makes me extremely happy.


Honestly you will never know how unspeakably happy it makes me that Woongjin gave KT a much better fight than CJ did.

There's always next season... and with Light, I honestly think there's a chance to take it all (aka getting a higher seed).


I really dislike the current seeding the top 2 get. IMO it should be something more like #1 and #2 get a buy past the first round. #3 v #6 winner plays #2, #4 v #5 winner plays #1. Getting seeded directly into the finals is just crazy.


I think it would've been pretty outrageous if the team that had no losses in two out of six rounds, won the WL, and had an overall decent lead at the end of the season, somehow had not made it into the finals because of two matches in the playoffs. Upsets do happen, and a Proleague finals without SKT this year would have been ridiculous.

It was pretty outrageous last year when the #1 seed in the AFC, which also had the best record in the NFL, lost to the #6 seed, but that happened. It was pretty outrageous when the team with the best record in the AL went up 3-0 in the ALCS versus the wildcard team and then lost 4-3, failing to make it to the World Series, but that happened too. It's called "competition." You might as well say that it's outrageous for the team that [BLAH BLAH BLAH] not to take the Proleague crown and thus argue that they should get first place automatically without playing in the playoffs at all.

Edit: Also, the post you quoted would have had #1 and #2 playing one playoff match before reaching the finals, not two.


I have no idea what AFC, NFL, ALCS etc. are. I'm talking about professional Starcraft.

My point was that having SKT play more games now to prove that they deserve a spot in the finals would have been meaningless. They've proven themselves enough this year. And it was already pointed out in another post that having even the top 2 ranked teams play more games in the play-offs would make the competition throughout the regular season much less fierce. Why bother getting a 10-win lead over the the last team to make it into the play-offs, if all you get for it is having to play two fewer play-off matches? Also, you would run the risk of having teams that barely made it into the play-offs play the grand finals, because they performed well for two weeks at the very end. So it would make both the competition during the regular season, AND the finals pointless.

Edit: When I said "two matches", i meant the day 1 and day 2 matches, not the number of teams they would have to face.


Format is something that ought to be fair and consistent from season to season. It matters less what the specific format is so long as it doesn't change.

Given that, then it's obvious that whatever seed advantage KT enjoyed last year, SKT ought to enjoy this year as well, or else the SPL cup loses a portion of its meaning.
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 09:24:54
July 26 2011 09:22 GMT
#2774
On July 26 2011 15:30 GeLaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 15:05 gngfn wrote:
On July 26 2011 14:51 GeLaar wrote:
On July 26 2011 01:46 revy wrote:
On July 25 2011 15:04 VGhost wrote:
On July 25 2011 13:01 Lebesgue wrote:
Couldn't watch either day live unfortunately. But I'm surprised that KT advanced with such an ease. On paper CJ looked way stronger and all I hoped was that KT will bring it to the ace and Flash will close it. Instead Flash went only 1-1 and still KT won both days 4:2.

Good job KT! Makes me extremely happy.


Honestly you will never know how unspeakably happy it makes me that Woongjin gave KT a much better fight than CJ did.

There's always next season... and with Light, I honestly think there's a chance to take it all (aka getting a higher seed).


I really dislike the current seeding the top 2 get. IMO it should be something more like #1 and #2 get a buy past the first round. #3 v #6 winner plays #2, #4 v #5 winner plays #1. Getting seeded directly into the finals is just crazy.


I think it would've been pretty outrageous if the team that had no losses in two out of six rounds, won the WL, and had an overall decent lead at the end of the season, somehow had not made it into the finals because of two matches in the playoffs. Upsets do happen, and a Proleague finals without SKT this year would have been ridiculous.

It was pretty outrageous last year when the #1 seed in the AFC, which also had the best record in the NFL, lost to the #6 seed, but that happened. It was pretty outrageous when the team with the best record in the AL went up 3-0 in the ALCS versus the wildcard team and then lost 4-3, failing to make it to the World Series, but that happened too. It's called "competition." You might as well say that it's outrageous for the team that [BLAH BLAH BLAH] not to take the Proleague crown and thus argue that they should get first place automatically without playing in the playoffs at all.

Edit: Also, the post you quoted would have had #1 and #2 playing one playoff match before reaching the finals, not two.


I have no idea what AFC, NFL, ALCS etc. are. I'm talking about professional Starcraft.

My point was that having SKT play more games now to prove that they deserve a spot in the finals would have been meaningless. They've proven themselves enough this year. And it was already pointed out in another post that having even the top 2 ranked teams play more games in the play-offs would make the competition throughout the regular season much less fierce. Why bother getting a 10-win lead over the the last team to make it into the play-offs, if all you get for it is having to play two fewer play-off matches? Also, you would run the risk of having teams that barely made it into the play-offs play the grand finals, because they performed well for two weeks at the very end. So it would make both the competition during the regular season, AND the finals pointless.

Edit: When I said "two matches", i meant the day 1 and day 2 matches, not the number of teams they would have to face.

How is it pointless when they legitimately make the playoffs and legitimately beat their opponents? I also think it's dumb that #1 gets 3 byes and #2 gets 2 byes, but there's no team with 1 bye, the discrepancy between 2 and 3 is insane and is fixed by a single bye system, where #2 only gets one more bye than #3, while #1 gets one more bye and seeding against the worst team to advance.

It's a dumb season but, hell, my team benefited from it last year so I can't get mad at SKT for having it this year. It's just, well, a bad system.
Remember Violet.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
July 26 2011 09:47 GMT
#2775
Poor Movie... He posted an entry on his Cyworld apologizing and blaming himself for CJ getting eliminated in the playoffs due to some idiot posting vicious insults on his page. Movie really should ignore those kind of fools instead of letting them get to him.... This is the second time he's posted a public apology in response to flaming.

Maybe he could use some cheering up...... Movie's Facebook page
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#2776
On July 26 2011 18:47 Spica wrote:
Poor Movie... He posted an entry on his Cyworld apologizing and blaming himself for CJ getting eliminated in the playoffs due to some idiot posting vicious insults on his page. Movie really should ignore those kind of fools instead of letting them get to him.... This is the second time he's posted a public apology in response to flaming.

Maybe he could use some cheering up...... Movie's Facebook page

added him right away
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 26 2011 10:44 GMT
#2777
On July 26 2011 19:02 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 18:47 Spica wrote:
Poor Movie... He posted an entry on his Cyworld apologizing and blaming himself for CJ getting eliminated in the playoffs due to some idiot posting vicious insults on his page. Movie really should ignore those kind of fools instead of letting them get to him.... This is the second time he's posted a public apology in response to flaming.

Maybe he could use some cheering up...... Movie's Facebook page

added him right away


added too ...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
July 26 2011 10:52 GMT
#2778
On July 26 2011 18:47 Spica wrote:
Poor Movie... He posted an entry on his Cyworld apologizing and blaming himself for CJ getting eliminated in the playoffs due to some idiot posting vicious insults on his page. Movie really should ignore those kind of fools instead of letting them get to him.... This is the second time he's posted a public apology in response to flaming.

Maybe he could use some cheering up...... Movie's Facebook page


Spica, thanks for the news and also the link of Movie FB. Movie...poor him. hope he will be ok. Movie fighting!!!

Real fan is someone who always support his/her fav teams or progamer no matter what happen. Progamers are human like us too.
Learn,live and love it.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
July 26 2011 11:04 GMT
#2779
hahaha wow that ceremony by leta was epikkkkk.
so frign hilarious. makes me miss FBH
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 26 2011 11:15 GMT
#2780
leta i don't hate you but because of that epic comeback which is really good because you manage to beat flash the master of tvt at his own game so yes you have the right to celebrate but because of you doing that I have lost my chance at a flash interview . So i am a little disappointed because of you leta. .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
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