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Mumei
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States270 Posts
July 20 2011 20:37 GMT
#721
On July 21 2011 05:33 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 02:13 Mumei wrote:
Gah. I just don't get what happened to Jaedong's ZvZ. He went 31 - 10 (75.61%) between January 2010 and August 2010. Then we start the new Proleague season in October and between then and March he went 21 - 8 (72.41%) - but between April and now he's gone 6 - 8. It's like his ZvZ performance just fell off a cliff.

It's so frustrating seeing him knocked out of individual leagues repeatedly by what used to be his best match-up.


Wait what he's not knocked out yet is he?


No, I was referring to his losses to Hydra and ZerO.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
July 20 2011 20:41 GMT
#722
Yeah I'm 4-0 liquidbet haha.
SKT all-in always works :D
Khassar de Templari
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 20 2011 20:53 GMT
#723
lol, I posted in the LB thread that JD would get HYUK'D but still voted for JD... eff my luck.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
July 20 2011 21:05 GMT
#724
On July 21 2011 02:13 Mumei wrote:
Gah. I just don't get what happened to Jaedong's ZvZ. He went 31 - 10 (75.61%) between January 2010 and August 2010. Then we start the new Proleague season in October and between then and March he went 21 - 8 (72.41%) - but between April and now he's gone 6 - 8. It's like his ZvZ performance just fell off a cliff.

It's so frustrating seeing him knocked out of individual leagues repeatedly by what used to be his best match-up.


Well he went through a ZvZ slump of the same nature about a year and a half ago, but then came back strong. Progamers go through ups and downs, matchup trends change, they have to adjust their game, they can lose confidence in their decisions, etc; it isn't really cause for concern just yet.

Still, as a big Jaedong fan I'll admit it's very frustrating X_X
Dodge arrows
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19391 Posts
July 20 2011 22:01 GMT
#725
Just watched all the games.

Game 1: Hiya Hyuked himself.
Game 2: So intense, had me on the edge of my seat, Scourge/Muta hyuking.
Game 3: OMG Science Vessel harass is so painful to watch! Clam Hyuking.
Game 4: JD Hyuking big time. Hyuk played well.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3700 Posts
July 20 2011 22:09 GMT
#726
YUSSSSSS clean sweep my all the ones I wanted to win, EVEN HYuk hyun!
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
July 21 2011 03:01 GMT
#727
Hahahaha holy crap Jaedong indeed got HYUK'D :p
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 21 2011 04:08 GMT
#728
NO JAEDONG
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
July 21 2011 04:12 GMT
#729
On July 20 2011 16:14 Keone wrote:
As much as I love JD, I would love to see the right side sweep this one.

Magikarp + Cyclops + Baby + Hyuk.

How much more epic could you get?

HYUK HYUK HYUK I was so close... Poor Magikarp =( =( =(
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
July 21 2011 04:48 GMT
#730
On July 21 2011 13:08 flamewheel wrote:
NO JAEDONG


Jaedong? JAEDONG?!

JAEDONGGGG!!
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
July 21 2011 05:20 GMT
#731
On July 21 2011 13:48 Z3kk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 13:08 flamewheel wrote:
NO JAEDONG


Jaedong? JAEDONG?!

JAEDONGGGG!!


Got hyuk?
Tippereth
Profile Joined December 2009
United States252 Posts
July 21 2011 07:12 GMT
#732
I'm almost as glad Baby won as I am sad Jaedong lost. I can't wait for Baby to mature into the next Flash. Calling it now.
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
July 21 2011 10:45 GMT
#733
On July 21 2011 16:12 Tippereth wrote:
I'm almost as glad Baby won as I am sad Jaedong lost. I can't wait for Baby to mature into the next Flash. Calling it now.
Baby's shown promise since he arrived on the pro-scene, but he's been around long enough that I think it's safe to say that he'll never be the next Flash.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 10:47:07
July 21 2011 10:46 GMT
#734
Edit; wrong thread.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 21 2011 11:18 GMT
#735
On July 21 2011 19:45 qrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 16:12 Tippereth wrote:
I'm almost as glad Baby won as I am sad Jaedong lost. I can't wait for Baby to mature into the next Flash. Calling it now.
Baby's shown promise since he arrived on the pro-scene, but he's been around long enough that I think it's safe to say that he'll never be the next Flash.

I just looked into TLPD, and Baby and Flash actually made their debut as progamers in the offline preliminaries the very same day.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
KamMoye
Profile Joined December 2010
United States721 Posts
July 21 2011 18:41 GMT
#736
On July 21 2011 03:50 Mumei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 02:22 Pvvned wrote:
On July 21 2011 02:13 Mumei wrote:
Gah. I just don't get what happened to Jaedong's ZvZ. He went 31 - 10 (75.61%) between January 2010 and August 2010. Then we start the new Proleague season in October and between then and March he went 21 - 8 (72.41%) - but between April and now he's gone 6 - 8. It's like his ZvZ performance just fell off a cliff.

It's so frustrating seeing him knocked out of individual leagues repeatedly by what used to be his best match-up.

It's always happened to the best of players: as you grow older, your skills just begin to diminish since everyone else becomes better and better.

For such a long time, JD has been incredibly consistent in his play. The longevity of his high caliber play could be compared to Nada's imo.

The rest of the zergs finally seem to be at a point where they might actually surpass him now. This is a testament of just how far ahead JD had been in ZvZ compared to the rest.


I know that. It's just that it seemed to almost happen overnight, and while he's also been having issues with his vP, it hasn't been nearly as problematic for him as his vZ as been (in terms of knocking him out of tournaments). He went from over 80% in 2010 in vP to 55% so far this year. He went from over 75% in vZ in 2010 to also 55%. It's just such a huge decline. But if this were simply about his skills declining relative to his competition, you'd expect him to be doing worse in all of his match-ups, and yet his vT looks better than it has in years.

Is his ZvZ doing worse because he is doing worse (e.g. making worse decisions or more micro mistakes than before) or is it doing worse because his competition is suddenly significantly better than they were a month or two prior?


one word to both of you:

variance.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
July 21 2011 20:19 GMT
#737
Wow... JD got Hyuk'd , might have to catch this game regardless if it was good or not.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
RinesOnRx
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada74 Posts
July 21 2011 21:39 GMT
#738
Wow, respect for SKT for stellar performances in the both proleague and the individual leagues
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 21 2011 22:37 GMT
#739
Maybe SKT really is imba.
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
July 22 2011 02:08 GMT
#740
HAHAHA I KNEW HYUK WILL WIN!
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
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