On June 22 2011 21:02 GG.NoRe wrote: Guys, especiall JD doubters. Let me tell you something so you dont make the same mistake next time.
JD doesnt lose to some random noob like ssak or classic early in the tournament. NEVER. He only exits as the champion or Ro8/Ro4 when he is too tired of winning already and wants to give new kids a chance.
Now you know.
You realize, it's foolish posts like that that has made jd-fans the most popular followers of any players? I'm not sure if it's a particular type of people drawn towards Jaedong's playstyle or personality, but most of you act very generic.
Jaedong being a less accomplished player than Jaedong, most of you jd-followers mostly attribute it to unbalance and bad maps. You're also the most insulting to other players, because Jaedong apparently is supposed to win everything.
On June 22 2011 20:57 TwoToneTerran wrote: Absolutely the worst game I've ever seen flash play, skillwise.
You could argue that for most matches that Flash wins his opponent plays the worst game of his life. That's what happens when you get dominated, you get offsync. Considering how this game went, I think Flash actually did a really good job.
Flash doesn't play worse because he's playing Jaedong, Flash literally just played completely lost that entire game and it was pathetic to watch. If you told me Skyhigh was playing that game I would not have blinked because that's the exact quality of output he had. Flash did an atrocious job and was so far below his skill level that I'm embarrassed.
Jaedong was in complete control the entire game. If Flash looked lost, it's because Flash couldn't do a thing against Jaedong. Pretty much everything he attempted was easily countered by Jaedong. He could've easily overrun a lesser zerg.
When Jaedong plays dumb and gets 3-0ed, it's because FLash is the ultimate unstoppable bonjwa but when Flash gets outplayed horribly in a standard game (despite a significant build order advantage), it's because he's not playing up to his usual level? Flash fans just love to undermine the opponents' wins against Flash, don't they?
On June 22 2011 21:02 GG.NoRe wrote: Guys, especiall JD doubters. Let me tell you something so you dont make the same mistake next time.
JD doesnt lose to some random noob like ssak or classic early in the tournament. NEVER. He only exits as the champion or Ro8/Ro4 when he is too tired of winning already and wants to give new kids a chance.
Now you know.
You realize, it's foolish posts like that that has made jd-fans the most popular followers of any players? I'm not sure if it's a particular type of people drawn towards Jaedong's playstyle or personality, but most of you act very generic.
Jaedong being a less accomplished player than Jaedong, most of you jd-followers mostly attribute it to unbalance and bad maps. You're also the most insulting to other players, because Jaedong apparently is supposed to win everything.
Why don't you put some effort into reading the posters name? "JD fans" is not really fair. Every player has a few over-devoted fans, no need to colour the whole fanbase that. Lightwip comes to mind.
On June 22 2011 21:02 GG.NoRe wrote: Guys, especiall JD doubters. Let me tell you something so you dont make the same mistake next time.
JD doesnt lose to some random noob like ssak or classic early in the tournament. NEVER. He only exits as the champion or Ro8/Ro4 when he is too tired of winning already and wants to give new kids a chance.
Now you know.
You realize, it's foolish posts like that that has made jd-fans the most popular followers of any players? I'm not sure if it's a particular type of people drawn towards Jaedong's playstyle or personality, but most of you act very generic.
Jaedong being a less accomplished player than Jaedong, most of you jd-followers mostly attribute it to unbalance and bad maps. You're also the most insulting to other players, because Jaedong apparently is supposed to win everything.
I really think some of the words in this post were supposed to be OTHER words.
On JuNe 22 2011 20:59 gngfn wrote: All the smiling from Flash every time he loses is getting a little insulting at this Point. You can do that when you lose ONE game in ten, not when you're 4-6.
it is. kind of insulting at any score.
WTF? there's people saying you can't Smile when you lose?
As far as I'M concerned the Only person allowed to do this is Kang Min.
Missed Flash vs Jaedong because there was a giant hornet in my room who wanted to see the game as well -_- I think it has left now, though...or at least I hope so :/
On June 22 2011 20:57 TwoToneTerran wrote: Absolutely the worst game I've ever seen flash play, skillwise.
You could argue that for most matches that Flash wins his opponent plays the worst game of his life. That's what happens when you get dominated, you get offsync. Considering how this game went, I think Flash actually did a really good job.
Flash doesn't play worse because he's playing Jaedong, Flash literally just played completely lost that entire game and it was pathetic to watch. If you told me Skyhigh was playing that game I would not have blinked because that's the exact quality of output he had. Flash did an atrocious job and was so far below his skill level that I'm embarrassed.
That's something a fan would say ofc, doesnt mean it's true. I wasnt implying it had anything to do with JD, rather the opponent he played which happend to be JD. He got outplayed at every corner and shit snowballs.
Flash's play is predicated on his preparedness and decision making. I don't think you can say he made a single good decision that entire game. Nothing he did besides planting mines helped him get an advantage in that game.
I just disagree.. The decision to go 2 rax was imho the right one, he played safe since he knows he is a good enough player to make things happen. I also agree going heavy 2-base attack considering how things went with the 2 rax, however he got pushed back and outplayed, imho, at every turn. Did no damage, and then making it impossible to do anything about a zerg that can techswitch freely.
You could also blame spawn positions and JDs opening for alot of what happend in the game, but that's not bad decision making from Flash, but rather great mindgame/decision making by JD consider positions and map.
On June 22 2011 21:02 GG.NoRe wrote: Guys, especiall JD doubters. Let me tell you something so you dont make the same mistake next time.
JD doesnt lose to some random noob like ssak or classic early in the tournament. NEVER. He only exits as the champion or Ro8/Ro4 when he is too tired of winning already and wants to give new kids a chance.
Now you know.
You realize, it's foolish posts like that that has made jd-fans the most popular followers of any players? I'm not sure if it's a particular type of people drawn towards Jaedong's playstyle or personality, but most of you act very generic.
Jaedong being a less accomplished player than Flash, most of you jd-followers mostly attribute it to unbalance and bad maps. You're also the most insulting to other players, because Jaedong apparently is supposed to win everything.
zealots and fanatics are in every fan camp dont generalize
On June 22 2011 21:08 Zona wrote: I don't understand this logic
are you people somehow making a smile out to be an insult? Can't Flash smile at how things turned out? the vagaries of life? how his plan didn't work?
The possibility that he's looking at his recent losses in terms like "how things turned out" or "the vagaries of life" is precisely what I'm worried about.