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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#561
I so hope we get an ace game rematch. Flash is probably itching to get revenge for that.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
mevshero
Profile Joined December 2009
911 Posts
May 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#562
okay, maybe it's worth watching cause of the hype around jvf, but not from the quality of the actual game. well, okay
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#563
On May 03 2011 18:59 Mooncat wrote:
The thing is, Jaedong didn't know about the fast SV build as far as I could see. That irradiate caught him COMPLETELY off guard. In a scenario like that you can expect some serious damage if a full HP mutalisk is hit, but the mutalisk died in a split second. It was literally the first tick. Heck, I'm not even sure if it ticked or if the irradiate went off and the mutalisk was then instantly killed by marines.

The way I see it the fans of both players have been robbed of a potentially great game.



Nah, us JD fans are pretty happy, thank you.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
May 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#564
On May 03 2011 18:59 Mooncat wrote:
The thing is, Jaedong didn't know about the fast SV build as far as I could see. That irradiate caught him COMPLETELY off guard. In a scenario like that you can expect some serious damage if a full HP mutalisk is hit, but the mutalisk died in a split second. It was literally the first tick. Heck, I'm not even sure if it ticked or if the irradiate went off and the mutalisk was then instantly killed by marines.

The way I see it the fans of both players have been robbed of a potentially great game.


i honestly can't believe that he could have been harassing the base and not known flash was going fast vessels from the marine count alone, never mind that he was actually in flash's base. i'm pretty sure he knew what was going on.
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 10:02:36
May 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#565
On May 03 2011 18:57 _Quasar_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 18:56 ArvickHero wrote:
On May 03 2011 18:53 _Quasar_ wrote:
you know, one irradiate doesn't beat a whole pack of muta unless zerg, in his turn, isnt super unlucky with splitting them... =/

Jaedong just countered Flash's build as it should have been done It's kind of odd build.

no, Flash's build is pretty good against 3 Hatch Muta but risky.. just that he was REALLY unlucky with his irradiate, and that the fast Vessel build has a period of vulnerability.. but if Terran can get to the mid-late game w/o much damage, Terran's lategame is unbelievably strong w/ the extra vessels.

I don't say that this build is not good at all, I just point at that muta irradiate moment. Even if it wasn't the 10 hp muta, Jaedong could split them normally and it wouldn't automatically mean that he would lose all his muta

While splitting his mutas, it delays a set of volleys, disrupts stacking a bit, gives time for rines to get healed and shoot the currently splitting and regrouping mutas, and some mutas would've been damaged too by the irradiate.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
May 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#566
On May 03 2011 18:58 s.Q.uelched wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 18:56 Lucumo wrote:
On May 03 2011 18:56 GG.NoRe wrote:
OMG Im so happy i could kiss all the beautiful womens in the dorm right now!!!

What's keeping you from doing so?

Just do it!


Just did it! :p
DONGJWA!
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
May 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#567
Ahh man i almost feel sorry for flash because he wasnt able to offer a longer show
Aah thats the stuff..
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
May 03 2011 10:00 GMT
#568
On May 03 2011 18:58 kuroshiroi wrote:
Even if Flash had killed all the mutas, Jaedong would simply have switched to lurkers, 4 bases, gone Hive and had a massively better economy. Flash can't exactly go on the offensive with 0 marines and 2 vessels.

It was a stupid build by Flash and Jaedong just dominated him, again.

You have no idea what you're talking about. That build would DESTROY the zerg had the mutas dealt no damage. Flash would've had such a powerful midgame from that fast fast tech.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
May 03 2011 10:01 GMT
#569
fuck. just got home. and i missed two epic matches. >.<
yoyo!
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
May 03 2011 10:01 GMT
#570
On May 03 2011 19:00 Holgerius wrote:
I so hope we get an ace game rematch. Flash is probably itching to get revenge for that.


If it gets to Ace, Flash should probably be favored because it'll be on La Mancha.
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4286 Posts
May 03 2011 10:01 GMT
#571
On May 03 2011 19:00 Megaliskuu wrote:
BUt really GG.NoRe don't be a dick, make a new poll. I'm as happy as anyone that Jaedong won, but that isn't standard LR procedure.

Made it for you.
Poll: Recommend Set 2?

Yes (47)
 
73%

No (15)
 
23%

If you have time. (2)
 
3%

64 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time.






Now this is a proper poll where you can vote!
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2400 Posts
May 03 2011 10:01 GMT
#572
On May 03 2011 19:00 tbrown47 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 18:59 radadaundandan wrote:
Flash will prove everyone wrong when the ACE game comes... just take your time.


hiya/lomo bringin it to a 4 - 0 victory NP

THIS WOULD BE AWESOME
The original Bogus fan.
TheOnly92
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia804 Posts
May 03 2011 10:02 GMT
#573
On May 03 2011 18:59 Mooncat wrote:
The thing is, Jaedong didn't know about the fast SV build as far as I could see. That irradiate caught him COMPLETELY off guard. In a scenario like that you can expect some serious damage if a full HP mutalisk is hit, but the mutalisk died in a split second. It was literally the first tick. Heck, I'm not even sure if it ticked or if the irradiate went off and the mutalisk was then instantly killed by marines.

The way I see it the fans of both players have been robbed of a potentially great game.



He'd seen that when he was microing his mutas to hit the turrets.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
May 03 2011 10:02 GMT
#574
Jaedong just make 3000 girl orgasm with those muta :D
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
May 03 2011 10:02 GMT
#575
Really nice to see JD getting this result! JD Fighting!
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
May 03 2011 10:02 GMT
#576
On May 03 2011 19:00 kerpal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2011 18:59 Mooncat wrote:
The thing is, Jaedong didn't know about the fast SV build as far as I could see. That irradiate caught him COMPLETELY off guard. In a scenario like that you can expect some serious damage if a full HP mutalisk is hit, but the mutalisk died in a split second. It was literally the first tick. Heck, I'm not even sure if it ticked or if the irradiate went off and the mutalisk was then instantly killed by marines.

The way I see it the fans of both players have been robbed of a potentially great game.


i honestly can't believe that he could have been harassing the base and not known flash was going fast vessels from the marine count alone, never mind that he was actually in flash's base. i'm pretty sure he knew what was going on.


Yeah, that's why he went for busting the turrets and parking his mutas in Flash's base... he simply saw that Flash doesn't have enough to stop him from doing so.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 10:02:59
May 03 2011 10:02 GMT
#577
woops
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
aScle
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia375 Posts
May 03 2011 10:02 GMT
#578
On May 03 2011 18:58 radialis wrote:
love the QQ saying it's all down to luck. a player of flash's calibre should not be relying on such risky tech to win

reminds me of his game vs calm lols. when will players learn to keep it simple? new builds suck 95% of the time. especially oov's.


fixed, fantasy doesnt make his own builds
Artosis: "Why did the collosus fall over? BECAUSE IT WAS IMBALANCED!!!"
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
May 03 2011 10:02 GMT
#579
FCKKKK

I FORGOT THIS WAS ON

omg. i missed it
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
May 03 2011 10:03 GMT
#580
On May 03 2011 18:58 kuroshiroi wrote:
Even if Flash had killed all the mutas, Jaedong would simply have switched to lurkers, 4 bases, gone Hive and had a massively better economy. Flash can't exactly go on the offensive with 0 marines and 2 vessels.

It was a stupid build by Flash and Jaedong just dominated him, again.


If Flash survives he goes into the next stage of the game with a huge tech advantage. A M&M force builds up very fast and then he has a ton of Vessels and tanks for a scary push.

It was a greedy build by Flash and JD responded perfectly and found the weak timing. But it was not a stupid build and if Flash would have survived he would have been ahead.
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