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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 12 2011 23:41 GMT
#521
On March 12 2011 21:15 Darth Saros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 19:29 pinkranger15 wrote:
On March 12 2011 19:27 Darth Saros wrote:
Flash you pissed me off to no end! Now Midas is gone and some noob zerg in. And yeah, Midas' play was unfortunately poor today. Thank you for streaming GTR.


noob zerg? you new to BW?

It's a SKT zerg. Nothing more to say there...or maybe he'll most likely Hyuk himself any time soon...so-you new to bw?

And that Savior joke was a good one.

IK right some noob Zerg.. Food5 should have made it
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 13 2011 09:56 GMT
#522
On March 13 2011 04:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 04:47 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 12 2011 21:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:28 moopie wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:26 Askalaphos wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:12 ZeroChrome wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:11 Zim23 wrote:
Only way Food5 would have stopped that push was if he secretly made 8 carriers somewhere.


No way. Flash doesn't lose to carriers.

He lost in PL a few days ago against Tyson's carriers.

That was because it was Bloody Ridge. Carriers are extremely strong on that map.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=maps&id=415&part=games&matchup=TvP&league=794&from_year=2010&from_month=11&from_day=27&to_year=2011&to_month=3&to_day=12&action=Update

So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.

If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.

Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.


If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.

Oh well, apparently I didn't.

Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.

Anyway.

What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...


Talking about map balance is OK but You were completely exaggerating- look at the stats: PvT: 11-12 (47.8%)

Terran is actually ahead on wins at the moment. I'm not saying it won't turn out to be a Protoss-favored map in the long run but saying it's impossible to win unless the other person's dying or whatever was completely ridiculous and in poor taste.
radialis
Profile Joined November 2010
726 Posts
March 13 2011 10:03 GMT
#523
On March 13 2011 18:56 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 04:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 13 2011 04:47 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 12 2011 21:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:28 moopie wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:26 Askalaphos wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:12 ZeroChrome wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:11 Zim23 wrote:
Only way Food5 would have stopped that push was if he secretly made 8 carriers somewhere.


No way. Flash doesn't lose to carriers.

He lost in PL a few days ago against Tyson's carriers.

That was because it was Bloody Ridge. Carriers are extremely strong on that map.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=maps&id=415&part=games&matchup=TvP&league=794&from_year=2010&from_month=11&from_day=27&to_year=2011&to_month=3&to_day=12&action=Update

So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.

If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.

Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.


If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.

Oh well, apparently I didn't.

Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.

Anyway.

What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...


Talking about map balance is OK but You were completely exaggerating- look at the stats: PvT: 11-12 (47.8%)

Terran is actually ahead on wins at the moment. I'm not saying it won't turn out to be a Protoss-favored map in the long run but saying it's impossible to win unless the other person's dying or whatever was completely ridiculous and in poor taste.

keep in mind that there is more to map balance than just statistics. look at polaris rapsody during last proleague. very few terrans were winning initially vs z but it turned out to be one of the most terran favoured maps once players realised how strong turtling was on that map. but i guess you covered that already in your post. i just think you're relying too much on the statistics when bloody ridge evidently IS protoss favoured.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 11:23:47
March 13 2011 11:05 GMT
#524
On March 13 2011 18:56 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 04:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 13 2011 04:47 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 12 2011 21:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:28 moopie wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:26 Askalaphos wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:12 ZeroChrome wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:11 Zim23 wrote:
Only way Food5 would have stopped that push was if he secretly made 8 carriers somewhere.


No way. Flash doesn't lose to carriers.

He lost in PL a few days ago against Tyson's carriers.

That was because it was Bloody Ridge. Carriers are extremely strong on that map.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=maps&id=415&part=games&matchup=TvP&league=794&from_year=2010&from_month=11&from_day=27&to_year=2011&to_month=3&to_day=12&action=Update

So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.

If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.

Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.


If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.

Oh well, apparently I didn't.

Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.

Anyway.

What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...


Talking about map balance is OK but You were completely exaggerating- look at the stats: PvT: 11-12 (47.8%)

Terran is actually ahead on wins at the moment. I'm not saying it won't turn out to be a Protoss-favored map in the long run but saying it's impossible to win unless the other person's dying or whatever was completely ridiculous and in poor taste.

The terran stats (in that 11-12 figure) come almost entirely from the dream league, and mostly before the map was tested thoroughly. Almost every single televised game has been carriers,and so far its proving to be worse than Katrina. Even the two games that T won in WL (Flash vs Snow and Hiya vs Violet) were vs carriers and were extremely close victories at that. Stating that it is 9-2 in SWL is not exaggerating. If anything, I would say it is you who is exaggerating for suggesting the map is even remotely balanced TvP ("terran is actually ahead at the moment"). The comment about Violet was indeed in very poor taste, but the map itself is a terran graveyard vP if the terran can't end it before the carrier count becomes critical.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8184 Posts
March 13 2011 13:36 GMT
#525
On March 13 2011 18:56 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 04:57 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 13 2011 04:47 tomatriedes wrote:
On March 12 2011 21:39 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:28 moopie wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:26 Askalaphos wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:12 ZeroChrome wrote:
On March 12 2011 18:11 Zim23 wrote:
Only way Food5 would have stopped that push was if he secretly made 8 carriers somewhere.


No way. Flash doesn't lose to carriers.

He lost in PL a few days ago against Tyson's carriers.

That was because it was Bloody Ridge. Carriers are extremely strong on that map.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=maps&id=415&part=games&matchup=TvP&league=794&from_year=2010&from_month=11&from_day=27&to_year=2011&to_month=3&to_day=12&action=Update

So out of 11 TvP in Winner League on this map, the only two terran victories were from Superman, I mean, Flash, in a close game against a tier 17 protoss, and from Hiya against a player who has leukemia.

If you need to be on the verge of dying to lose in PvT on this map, it may means that it's a bit broken in terms of balance.

Why on earth haven't they removed Bloody Ridge already? Doesn't make sense to me.


If this was a zerg whining the poster would have been banned by now. I don't know how these guys get away with it to be honest.

Oh well, apparently I didn't.

Is it SC2 imbalance whines which have made bannable comments about map balance in BW? Because nobody with common sense would ever claim that BW is unbalanced, and that was certainly not my point. Some maps are bad though, and I don't really think that people who were complaining about Raid Assault 2 being so zerg favoured that we had 30zvz, 2 tvt and 2 pvp in the season it was in the pool, ever got banned.

Anyway.

What Flash said in his interview is that terran has to win on the first push or die on bloody ridge. It seems impossible to really play defensively, which probably makes it really hard for rans in TvP. Haven't played it, so if someone has a clue...


Talking about map balance is OK but You were completely exaggerating- look at the stats: PvT: 11-12 (47.8%)

Terran is actually ahead on wins at the moment. I'm not saying it won't turn out to be a Protoss-favored map in the long run but saying it's impossible to win unless the other person's dying or whatever was completely ridiculous and in poor taste.

In winner league it's 9-2. TLPD stats include leagues which means little since there are completely other categories of players.

Flash said himself the late game was impossible for TvP.

Anyway. I haven't made humour about poor Violet but about the map. You don't like it that's fine, however I haven't been warned for that but for balance whining.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
LastActionHero
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany29 Posts
March 13 2011 21:44 GMT
#526
I guess that Flash tried to use the loud astonishment of the audience to make Food5 think there is cheese incoming
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