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revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
March 07 2011 12:39 GMT
#901
I don't know what possessed JD to proceed with that push into Flash's natural. I know that was what he was going for but a single ling could have scouted double bunker which pretty much rules out the aggression. I think (do note, i'm not a progamer but I do have advantage of hindsight) that JD should've just setup a contain at Flash's nat while he tried to get his expo's up. The units he threw away might've been the difference that would've prevented that min only (and the game) from going down.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
March 07 2011 12:39 GMT
#902
On March 07 2011 21:34 radialis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 21:32 Nikon wrote:
Fuck. What more can I say?

Poll: Recommend Game 7?

Yes. (78)
 
60%

No. (36)
 
27%

Watch it if you have time. (17)
 
13%

131 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Game 7?

(Vote): Yes.
(Vote): No.
(Vote): Watch it if you have time.


wow so many butthurt assholes not recommending that game

This is what i call bias. JD tried to double expo behind 3 hatch lurker without a contain, he got rolled over. Flash may have good bio vs lurker control, but nothing can get me vote for this kind of bad gameplan from Jaedong. It's like trying to defend 12 hatch vs 9 pool and failing. Would you recommend that?
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
March 07 2011 12:40 GMT
#903
After all is said and done,
JD will be back for one final push,
He will get his 6th, and more
to be THE. GREATEST. EVER.

I Believe.
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
March 07 2011 12:40 GMT
#904
Flash is really outstanding. Best sc player that has ever lived. ffs
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
March 07 2011 12:40 GMT
#905
This map is simply really hard for Zerg, how are they supposed to defend the third or the fourth base against T before getting Hive? But I suppose Jaedong was simply too agressive and too greedy and got punished for that. Flash going 14cc wasn't exactly helping either.

You'll just get him next time, JD.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 12:42:15
March 07 2011 12:41 GMT
#906
On March 07 2011 21:36 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 21:32 Garrl wrote:
gg, JD overextended himself with the min only, didn't have enough lurks to defend it and ended up just losing too many units TRYING to defend it.

Yeah, he was being way too greedy. He would've been just fine with just the gas expansion. I don't know why he always tries some funky stuff against Flash instead of just playing against him like he was any other Terran.

Because Flash isn't any other Terran. He's the best player in the world, perhaps of all time. Gotta try to cut as many corners as possible.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 07 2011 12:41 GMT
#907
On March 07 2011 21:36 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 21:32 Garrl wrote:
gg, JD overextended himself with the min only, didn't have enough lurks to defend it and ended up just losing too many units TRYING to defend it.

Yeah, he was being way too greedy. He would've been just fine with just the gas expansion. I don't know why he always tries some funky stuff against Flash instead of just playing against him like he was any other Terran.

Yeah, since flash didn't have vessels for a while JD could have easily held his 3rd with microing lurkers back and forth. Instead, he got greedy and kept sending groups of them to the 3rd, and like a 1/3 of them died before they could get in position.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
March 07 2011 12:41 GMT
#908
With this win, Flash has regained his 70% winrate in TvZ. Go Flash! And great job Stats and Action!
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
March 07 2011 12:42 GMT
#909
I want KT from first round back.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 07 2011 12:42 GMT
#910
i will keep hoping KT go back to R1 form once WL is over.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 07 2011 12:42 GMT
#911
Man it's sad to see Jaedong always lose to Flash nowadays
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 12:43:28
March 07 2011 12:42 GMT
#912
Balance whine leaking over from the SC2 forums. Terran isn't imba but Flash definitely is.
ftd.rain
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom539 Posts
March 07 2011 12:43 GMT
#913
this is just too sad, I'm off.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
March 07 2011 12:43 GMT
#914
Sigh....Now to go to an exam while being unhappy at the result of this match. Damn 14cc -_-.

'Grats to Flash though.

Jaedong will get his revenge in the leagues. I know he will.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 12:45:38
March 07 2011 12:43 GMT
#915
And with this win Flash overtakes Bisu in the vZ elo and now once again rules all ELO and ELO peak catagories.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
blue001
Profile Joined January 2009
106 Posts
March 07 2011 12:44 GMT
#916
I hope someone can take down Flash. Btw, I don't think cutting corners is what you should do against the best player. You should aim to play a solid game, no mistakes and good decision making. Cut corners just means you give Flash an opportunity to kill you
_romantic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States455 Posts
March 07 2011 12:44 GMT
#917
On March 07 2011 21:42 Doraemon wrote:
i will keep hoping KT go back to R1 form once WL is over.


Keep smoking that hopium man, it's good for you!
Jaedong beats other players. Bisu beats other players, in PL. Flash beats Starcraft.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
March 07 2011 12:44 GMT
#918
On March 07 2011 21:37 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 21:32 Garrl wrote:
gg, JD overextended himself with the min only, didn't have enough lurks to defend it and ended up just losing too many units TRYING to defend it.
Well guess what, then the terran ball wouldve been sieging Jds other bases, wouldve been the classic scenario of slow death. At the very top level, zerg has to be ridiculously greedy

Indeed i just feel the 2 player map didn;t allow for Jaedong to sneak expos or what not.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 12:45:54
March 07 2011 12:44 GMT
#919
On March 07 2011 21:41 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 21:36 DarkMatter_ wrote:
On March 07 2011 21:32 Garrl wrote:
gg, JD overextended himself with the min only, didn't have enough lurks to defend it and ended up just losing too many units TRYING to defend it.

Yeah, he was being way too greedy. He would've been just fine with just the gas expansion. I don't know why he always tries some funky stuff against Flash instead of just playing against him like he was any other Terran.

Because Flash isn't any other Terran. He's the best player in the world, perhaps of all time. Gotta try to cut as many corners as possible.

Jaedong is fully capable of beating Flash straight up as he has on plenty of occasions. In fact, it's usually Flash who scores wins against JD by going 14 CC or 8rax against 12hatch11pool.
Gak2
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada418 Posts
March 07 2011 12:44 GMT
#920
so flash's god sense found the lurkers.. seriously that's so unfair!

On March 07 2011 21:37 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 21:32 Garrl wrote:
gg, JD overextended himself with the min only, didn't have enough lurks to defend it and ended up just losing too many units TRYING to defend it.
Well guess what, then the terran ball wouldve been sieging Jds other bases, wouldve been the classic scenario of slow death. At the very top level, zerg has to be ridiculously greedy

if he didnt take that 4th, he would've had a hive and defilers up soon, then it's easily defend-able. 3gas zerg vs 2base terran is very typical
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