EPT[SWL] Samsung KHAN vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 33
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Ryo
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Soulforged
Latvia918 Posts
On February 28 2011 20:54 Lachrymose wrote: What? 2 gate obs stops dt cold, comes out ahead vs 3 gate, can hold up against reaver first and can potentially live 4 gate. it loses to gate to nexus of any description. it isn't overconfidence, it's called playing safe. gate nexus loses to dt, 4 gate and has a rough time vs reaver first. it just trounces observer first. It isn't really ahead vs 3 gate. You're going to get contained, even with a reaver it'll take time to get out; you'll be behind in economy by then, and fighting reaver with no reaver with whole map to fall back on and goon advantage/more gates kicking is manageble. Yes, can hold up against reaver first - but is a little behind on that. Really behind against any gate first. Okay, any gate nexus auto loses to 4gate, gate nexus robo - like stork did - handles DT even better than gate robo gate obs. What I'm saying is, Stork took a risk of losing to 4gate, and rode advantage home. Bisu chose not to take any risks at all and pick safe build, it won't cut against someone like Stork. Besides, it is a part of Bisu personality: whenever he gets on a hot winning streak, he starts to play extra safe against everyone. That is what I meant by overconfidence, he mentioned it in interviews before. | ||
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roman012
Bulgaria36 Posts
On February 28 2011 20:53 legaton wrote: They went up to 4 bases... he just was't good enough to win engagements in the central area of the map or to harass enough to come back after giving a small BO advantage. Small BO advantages decide PvPs when we talk about people on the same level. Stork had better economy so he had more units than Bisu. | ||
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mnesthes
5433 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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a7choi
United States1664 Posts
On February 28 2011 21:09 mdb wrote: And bisu once again shows that he is good only at beating random scrubs. yes.. so true.. he can't mess with s-class players | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On February 28 2011 21:09 mdb wrote: And bisu once again shows that he is good only at beating random scrubs. Jaedong is a random scrub these days?  | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
apparently in there eyes ya. | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On February 28 2011 21:00 Soulforged wrote: It isn't really ahead vs 3 gate. You're going to get contained, even with a reaver it'll take time to get out; you'll be behind in economy by then, and fighting reaver with no reaver with whole map to fall back on and goon advantage/more gates kicking is manageble. Yes, can hold up against reaver first - but is a little behind on that. Really behind against any gate first. Okay, any gate nexus auto loses to 4gate, gate nexus robo - like stork did - handles DT even better than gate robo gate obs. What I'm saying is, Stork took a risk of losing to 4gate, and rode advantage home. Bisu chose not to take any risks at all and pick safe build, it won't cut against someone like Stork. Besides, it is a part of Bisu personality: whenever he gets on a hot winning streak, he starts to play extra safe against everyone. That is what I meant by overconfidence, he mentioned it in interviews before. 3 gate is not going to rally across the map and contain 2 gate robo for any appreciable amount of time on almost any map. gate nexus robo just trades losing to less aggressive gates for losing to dts. you can't just roll the dice when your team sends you in 0:3. there is an old saying in pvp "first to expand, first to lose." kal and stork rolling the dice vs bisu is not a mark against him. that isn't to say it's a mark against stork either, 3:1 is the perfect time to look for a free win. | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On February 28 2011 21:10 a7choi wrote: yes.. so true.. he can't mess with s-class players You just love hating on Bisu, don't you? On an unrelated note, rabid Stork fans really annoy me(both Korean and TL). I'm actually glad he didn't win the OSL because of it. | ||
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roman012
Bulgaria36 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Exception, that proves the rule | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On February 28 2011 21:15 Lightwip wrote: You just love hating on Bisu, don't you? On an unrelated note, rabid Stork fans really annoy me(both Korean and TL). I'm actually glad he didn't win the OSL because of it. I've seen no post that would possibly lead you to say this in this thread... please direct me to it because it seems you are lashing out at the Stork fanbase because some of the KT fanbase are crapping on Bisu... | ||
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chisuri
Vietnam789 Posts
At least he didn't lose to scrubs lately, like Flash, Jaedong, Stork did. And no, I don't hate the other three. I just want to point out how ridiculous the reasoning is. | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2394 Posts
On February 28 2011 21:33 ShadeR wrote: I've seen no post that would possibly lead you to say this in this thread... please direct me to it because it seems you are lashing out at the Stork fanbase because some of the KT fanbase are crapping on Bisu... I liked when he said he couldn't see how Bisu fans could be the worst... then comes out with this :D :D :D KT fans do love Stork though. Because they actually like good players, hence following Flash around everywhere. Stork true #2 foreva. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44322 Posts
Damn. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On February 28 2011 21:33 ShadeR wrote: I've seen no post that would possibly lead you to say this in this thread... please direct me to it because it seems you are lashing out at the Stork fanbase because some of the KT fanbase are crapping on Bisu... Holgerius (both apply) Also this guy: On February 28 2011 21:49 Turbovolver wrote: I liked when he said he couldn't see how Bisu fans could be the worst... then comes out with this :D :D :D KT fans do love Stork though. Because they actually like good players, hence following Flash around everywhere. Stork true #2 foreva. Fucking ROFL | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
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